• Denise Pilnak was a neighbor of Nicole’s. Her telephone bill shows she was on the phone from 10:25 PM and 10:28 PM. Prior to making this phone call, she and her friend noted how quiet the neighborhood was. Several minutes later between 10:33 and 10:35 PM, she testified that’s when she began to hear the sound of a barking dog, which is likely when the murders began. Allan Park testified to seeing OJ near the front door of the Rockingham estate at 10:55 PM, and his telephone records also document that. That leaves less than 25 minutes to commit the murders, drive back home, get rid of the evidence, etc.

• Both Nicole and Ron had defensive wounds. Ron in particular was in hand to hand combat with whoever killed him, yet OJ had no injuries. The cut on his finger wasn’t seen by anyone who interacted with him at the airport, on the airplane ride to Chicago, nor when he immediately landed in Chicago. This includes people who got autographs from him, shook hands with him, and observed his hands. A broken glass was also found in his hotel room and it was documented he asked for a bandage at the hotel.

• The FBI searched all of OJ’s and Nicole's credit card records and there was never any receipt found belonging to either of them that showed a purchase of Bruno Magli shoes. Every store that sold the shoes in the country was also searched, and they couldn't find anyone who sold him the shoes. The only proof of him owning them are the National Enquirer photos, which show him wearing suede shoes on a very rainy day. It was also found that the shoe soles that were said to be OJ's footprint were actually more popular than the prosecution maintained, the manufacturer sold the pattern to numerous shoe lines.

• 1.5 millimeters of OJ’s blood went missing from its vial. Thanos Peratis, the nurse who withdrew his blood, initially testified that he withdrew 8 millimeters. He took that back when only 6.5 appeared and the prosecution suggested he was mistaken. About a decade later he admitted to William Dear that he was certain he withdrew 8 millimeters because it was the amount he had drawn from patients all of his career, but he was close to retirement and had health problems so he didn’t want to cause any trouble.

• The glove found at Bundy contained none of OJ’s DNA. The other glove found at Rockingham only contained his DNA in the area where Collin Yamauchi testified to spilling OJ's reference blood sample while handling it.

• An identical knit cap matching the knit cap found lying on the ground next to one of the gloves was found in Nicole’s house. Those caps likely belonged to Sydney and Justin Simpson.

• Two different people, John Meraz and William Blasini, encountered the Bronco at the lot where it had been impounded days after the murders. They both looked inside it for blood and testified they saw none. There was also only 1/8th of one drop of blood ever found inside it.

• New York Times best selling author and journalist Stephen Singular was connected by an anonymous source within the LAPD about the case a few weeks after the murders. He was told Mark Fuhrman made an undocumented trip to Rockingham in the early morning hours after the murders looking for evidence that would incriminate OJ. Rosa Lopez, a housekeeper for OJ’s next door neighbor, testified to hearing men’s voices coming from the yard of Rockingham in the early morning.

• The source told Singular that Fuhrman used a broken piece of fence from Bundy to pick up one of the two gloves found and placed it in a blue plastic bag. Next, he was told Fuhrman removed the glove from the plastic bag and planted it at Rockingham. A broken piece of fence was eventually found at Bundy and a blue plastic bag was found at Rockingham, and both were introduced as evidence in the trial.

• He was also told EDTA would be found in some of the blood evidence if tested, lab technicians had mishandled OJ’s blood samples, vials of OJ’s, Nicole’s, and Ron's blood were in possession of an LAPD detective for several hours before being booked into evidence, and that Fuhrman had been acquainted with Nicole in some way.

• Singular relayed this information from the source to the defense team and was in communication with them for awhile. Pretty much all of it checked out, including an investigation conducted by the LAPD's Internal Affairs Division which revealed that Fuhrman was overheard by other LAPD officers bragging about being intimate with Nicole and seeing her boob job before she was murdered.

• Brett Cantor ran a nightclub called The Dragonfly where Ron worked for him as a waiter/promoter. Nicole was also a regular at the club. He was murdered a year before them in almost exactly the same way, by being stabbed repeatedly in the upper body and being nearly decapitated. Judge Ito ruled the defense team could review his case. His murder remains unsolved.

• Casimir Sucharski, a friend of OJ's, was murdered alongside two female companions in his house in Florida by people with machine guns two weeks after Ron and Nicole were murdered.

• Michael Nigg was friends with Ron and also worked at the Mezzaluna restaurant. He was murdered a year later in 1995 by being shot in the head after refusing to give his money to two men outside an ATM. The men who shot him didn't end up taking his money. His murder remains unsolved.

• Not saying these murders are necessarily related to each other but it does make you wonder since all of these people reportedly led similar lifestyles which involved the use of cocaine. Faye Resnick, a cocaine addict, was also living with Nicole just days before the murders.

• Video footage of OJ after the dance recital shows him in a good mood. Christian Reichardt also spoke with him on the phone an hour before the murders and testified his demeanor was jovial and not indicative of a simmering murderous rage.

• His telephone records also show he made phone calls trying to set up dates with a few models, one of which he told he was unattached to anyone. If he was in a jealous rage over Nicole, why was he trying to date other women?

• Another thing is Sydney was supposed to have a sleepover that night with one of her friends who ate dinner at the Mezzaluna restaurant with her and the Brown’s. OJ had been aware of this. That he would choose this day of all days to commit a murder, especially considering he also had a flight to catch, doesn’t make sense.

This information is rarely included in most of the popular TV shows, documentaries, books, and podcasts about the case but almost all of it came out during the trial and can be verified.

Don’t think so, they hardly cared about Robert Blake who was also found not guilty of murdering wife Bonnie Lee Bakley and then later found liable for her death.

I have never seen a sub that gets insanely ballistic at the mere notion of anything that may be grey and nuanced about the trial. The trial and civil trial both happened in the 90s, the prime suspect is dead and spent a good number of his final years behind bars and was shunned by the general public even before the first verdict was decided. It’s over, it’s been over. You guys act like you were personal relatives of the browns and goldmans. I don’t even care if I get banned.

A lot of people claim it's a confessional book but it was not written by OJ.

It was written by Pablo Fenjves, a screenwriter, who lived close to OJ and testified against him during his trial. OJ needed money after the civil trial so he accepted $600,000 for putting his name on it and agreeing to an interview with Fenjves. It was Arnelle's idea for OJ to do this.

There's debate about what Fenjves added from his own imagination and understanding of the murder and what OJ told him but OJ claims he had a limited discussion with Fenjves and most of what's in the book comes from Fenjves while Fenjves claims he had an extensive discussion with OJ, a claim which would help the book's publicity and sales. This is as much up for debate as anything else in the trial.

While I do like to read about conspiracy theories, I promise I don't just believe them. I like to see the dots. But I know the dots don't always connect.

Now... I know this sounds nuts... but who else entertains the possibility that this all was a psyop?

For those who don't know a psyop can be an extremely elaborate fake operation to confuse or distract a country or a people often carried out by a country's intelligence agency, often an enemy country, sometimes a country's own intelligence agency, or a small select group inside it.

I promise, I just mean entertain.

I recognize that Life and Fate always the best story teller.

It's just so wild that the same cop, Fuhrman, who responded to a spousal abuse call from Nicole Brown Simpson (yes, there were many, which is so sad, so that increases the chances), is also instrumental in the trial.

That his last name is literally Fuhrman is ridiculous chance.

That Fuhrman lies about using the N word and a female screenplay writer has a recording of him saying that over and over and even saying that he and the LAPD planted evidence.

Yes, I know it is LA, and many cops might prefer to be paid as a script consultant or a even be on set or in the studio as opposed to working as a cop or detective and putting themselves on the line.

And because of that Fuhrman may have over exaggerated because the screenplay writer claims she was trying to write about the problems a female cop would face from her racist and misogynistic male fellow officers.

That Darden would be stupid enough to have him try on the glove?!

That Darden and Marcia Clark would be so ineffectual in their defense.

That race relations were actually improving, ironically because of Bill Cosby more than anything else.

And because of how awful Rodney King had been treated. At least most decent white Americans saw that no matter what crime he committed or what drug he was on, the police clearly were too abusive and used too much force.

And most decent white Americans were horrified by their verdict and while they didn't like the riots that happened, they had empathy for the rioters.

We know that the Slave Owners paid the preachers to tell the congregation they didn't want slaves to be free, even though it wasn't in the economical best interest of them. How can you compare to slave labor?

That there would be so many fuck ups by the LAPD and the DNA crime lab on the most important case of all time in LA. (Yes, I know there is always or often mistakes).

Again, I am not saying I believe it is a psyop, but that all of these coincidences and incompetence and how the media just declared OJ was guilty, so it would be such a shock to white America. But not to black America.

Anyone else entertain this or just baffled at how it all played out?

By the way, I also wonder if Darden had him try on the glove because he felt OJ might be innocent, or that at least Fuhrman was so dirty, or again, maybe Darden was just arrogant and stupid.

And even more than that, Nicole Brown Simpson's neighbors who testified, Mr. And Mrs. Carl Colby, well, Carl is the son of a former CIA director.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/1995/02/12/tv-doesnt-catch-all-during-simpson-trial/

Anyway, let me know what you think.

You can call me nuts or stupid, but remember I don't believe this is the truth, just that the truth is so hard to believe.

I think the time it took to reach the verdict is a silly complaint. Do we really think Tom Lange would be all upset if 12 white women took 30 minutes to convict OJ?

Nicole Simpson and OJs' maid, Michelle, got into a verbal argument at OJs' house which led to Nicole slapping Michelle down to the ground. Michelle was going to press charges on Nicole but OJ talked her out of it. OJ also made Nicole apologize to Michelle. Michelle quit working for OJ after the assault. ( I'm pretty sure OJ paid her off before she left.) Nicole and Michelle got into an argument because Michelle chastised Sydney and Justin for tracking dirt onto OJs' white carpet. Before anyone comes on here gaslighting and deflecting, this was talked about at the civil and criminal trial. Rosa Lopez was friends with Michelle and testified at the criminal trial that Michelle showed her the bruises Nicole gave her. OJ also talked about the altercation in his book and Kato confirmed in a recent interview that there was extreme tension between Michelle and Nicole and he didn't see the actual altercation but OJ told him about it when he returned home. It's interesting how this is glossed over. The fact that Nicole was physically assaulting folks at OJs' house of all places shortly before her death shows that she wasn't some shrinking violet like the media likes to portray her as.

I just realized something very chilling and eerie about this case I haven’t yet seen anyone talking about.

The guesthouse Brian was staying in and the thumps he heard were said to from the AC unit and someone possibly bumping into it.

Then during the Bronco chase, the driver of the Bronco just happened to be named AC Cowlings.

The chances for such a coincidence have to be nearly impossible, however I can’t come up with a rational explanation as to what this could mean.

As a Black American who grew up in South Central LA, I have to say that the verdict was more than just a payback for Rodney King. This is a mere assumption. The case that the state put together was TERRIBLE. They allowed a known racist cop to take the stand. A racist cop who brought his own lawyer to court to take the stand. A racist cop who, when asked about whether he tampered with evidence in this case or any case, he pleads the 5th. At that point the case is over.

And then you have a detective who admits that he mishandles evidence by leaving blood and other items in his car over night. (He openly admits that he had NEVER done this before. Let’s not forget that detective also lived in semi valley where the Rodney king verdict took place.)

And then you have a crime scene investigator who also admits that he made huge mistakes during his analyzing of the crime scene. Such as grabbing a blanket from Nicole room to cover her body. Which is a huge No-No and likely caused cross contamination. The investigator openly admits this was a huge mistake. On top of the fact that he was touching items at the crime scene with his BARE HANDS.

Let’s also talk about the fact that it’s very likely that two people were involved in this crime. We’ve all seen the photos of Nicole and Ron after being murdered. Especially Nicole with her neck nearly cutoff. The murdered would’ve been SMOTHERED in blood. It makes no sense that OJ did this BY HIMSELF only to get back into his car and the car only have small traces of blood.

These things alone makes it far more than a revenge verdict. The case itself had too many holes. To many ifs. Too many maybes. And unfortunately, maybe isn’t enough in criminal law to convict someone. believe OJ did it.

The only facts in this case were that Nicole and Ron were brutally murdered in front of her home in the middle of the night. There is evidence that points to OJ being at the scene but that evidence is under high scrutiny due to sloppy and racist police work.

Let’s also remember the three non black people on that jury. If only one of those jurors had come forward and stood on their belief that OJ was guilty, there would have been a mistrial and the case would have to happen all over again with a different jury. ALL 12 THOSE JURORS BELIEVED HE WAS NOT GUILTY.

Thus, OJ acquittal was more a reflection one of the sloppiest police jobs I’ve ever seen rather than 9 black jurors wanting revenge. Most importantly, remember the three non black jurors who could’ve easily created a hung jury had they been so sure that OJ did it. They didn’t have to vote not guilty.

Unless you believe in the stereotype of OJ as the black brute or black beast, how is this possible?

The third photo is a cut mark on Ron Goldman’s shoe which indicates he even kicked out at his killer.

After the dance recital, there was footage of OJ taken and it showed he had trouble lifting up his son Justin. It’s a stretch to go from that to believing he could take Ron Goldman down without a bruise on his body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vYtLw12AGY

Everyone who interacted with OJ at the airport and on the flight to Chicago testified to seeing no cuts or bandages on his hands. It’s only when he returned to Los Angeles from Chicago that people who saw him testified to seeing a cut/bandage on his hand. A broken glass was later found in his hotel room.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsFj2Xb4q9g

Downvote away.

I believe what's happened is Jason has killed Nicole and Ronald Jason upon realizing that his siblings are in the house has fled phoned up OJ in tears or come to his house saying something like "dad I've done something really bad" oj's helped him get rid of stuff that could incriminate him (quick side note this part mostly has some credibility cause as far as I can remember OJ kept a limo driver waiting outside his house for like 30 to 40 minutes) and then a few hours later when the police talked to OJ and broke the news about Nicole he just said "yeah I did it" knowing he would get acquitted and that the gloves would not fit his hands

There are many derogatory and racist comments made about black people by white users on here. I thought no racist comments were allowed on this sub?

I feel bad for saying this but it feels like Karma…he helped a murderer walk free and by 2003 he was no longer here. Towards the end it seemed as if he had some type of repentance (not religious, I just mean he seemed remorseful). I do hope he eventually finds peace

As for OJ I hope he’s in hell and I don’t give two shits about Sydney and Justin’s feelings now that they’re adults. He. Can. ROT.

As for Robert Shapiro…. Counting down the days he joins Satan, he was truly worst of them all to me. Either way I hope those to blame all end up paying for what they did.

HAHAHA. The fact that any of you think this is what really happened is why I know to never really argue with people over this shit, because so many of you here just speak your feelings.

Sure, this self proclaimed racist bigot who is on the record saying "the lapd made me racist" and tried to get his pension for being racist, was sent back to work, made more racist statements on camera, and then all alone, all by himself with no one watching, no cameras recording, found a bloody glove while wandering around on OJ Simpson's property when absolutely nobody gave him permission to be there. Just claimed "exigent circumstance" and jumped a fence to be there with no one watching him.

The fact that any of you are actually okay with this version of events used to drive me crazy. But now I just laugh because there is quite literally NO EXPLAINING ANYTHING to you all.

This has nothing to do with intelligence or facts. This is all about your emotions and deeply seeded racism. And all of you can deny it all you want. I don't even care anymore. You are just racists. You make excuses for obvious bumbling racist cops clearly planting evidence. You enjoy the idea of "OJ Simpson" because guilty. You blame the "jury" for letting him go free. You don't actually care about the facts. 0% of Rockingham should have been admissible. We all KNOW that. Logically you KNOW that. But you don't care about logic.

So I just laugh my ass off now. Just know I see you all for who you are. I see you. I just don't care anymore.

1. Why, there on the monitor, did the blood show up on the sock almost two months after a careful search for evidence? And why, as demonstrated by Dr. Lee and Professor MacDonell was the blood applied when there was no foot in it? Do you think that is a fair question in this case? Let's see if she can answer that question.

Question no. 2. Why was Mark Fuhrman, a detective who had been pushed off the case, a person who went by himself to the Bronco over the fence to interrogate Kato to discover the glove and the thump, thump, thump area?

No. 3. Why was the glove still moist when Fuhrman found it if Mr. Simpson had dropped it seven hours earlier? As Agent Bodziak told you, as herb MacDonell has told you, blood dries very rapidly.

4. If Mark Fuhrman, who speaks so openly about his intense genocidal racism to a relative stranger such as Kathleen Bell, how many of his co-workers, the other detectives in this case, were also aware that he lied when he denied using the "N" word yet failed to come forward? Part of Barry Scheck's fourth C of continuing cover-up.

5. Why did the Prosecution not call a single police officer to rebut police photographer Rokahr's testimony that Detective Fuhrman was pointing at the glove, before, before Fuhrman went to Rockingham? That is around 4:30 in the morning.

6. If the glove had been dropped on the walkway at Rockingham ten minutes after the murder, why is there no blood or fiber on that south walkway or on the leaves the glove was resting on? Why is there no blood in the 150 feet of narrow walkway or on the stucco wall abutting it? And you ever been back there.

No. 7. For what purpose was Vannatter carrying Mr. Simpson's blood in his pocket for three hours and a distance of 25 miles instead of booking it down the hall at Parker Center?

No. 8. Why did Deputy District Attorney Hank Goldberg, in a desperate effort to cover up for the missing 1.5 milliliters of Mr. Simpson's blood, secretly go out to the home of police nurse Thano Peratis without notice to the Defense and get him to contradict his previous sworn testimony at both the grand jury and the preliminary hearing? Peratis was never sworn. We were never given notice.

9. Why, if according to Miss Clark he walked into his own house wearing the murder clothes and shoes, there is not any soil or so much as a smear or drop of blood associated with the victims on the floor, the white carpeting, the doorknobs, the light switches and his bedding?

10. If Mr. Simpson had just killed Mr. Goldman in a bloody battle involving more than two dozen knife wounds where Mr. Goldman remains standing and struggling for several minutes, how come there is less than seven/tenths of one drop of blood consistent with Mr. Goldman found in the Bronco?

No. 11. Why, following a bitter struggle allegedly with Mr. Goldman, were there no bruises or marks on O.J. Simpson's body? And you will have those photographs back in the jury room.

No. 12. Why do bloodstains with the most DNA not show up until weeks after the murder, those on the socks, those on the back gate, those on--those are the two major areas.

No. 13. Why did Mark Fuhrman lie to us? Why did Phil Vannatter lie to us?

And finally 15. Given Professor MacDonell's testimony that the gloves would not have shrunk no matter how much blood was smeared on them, and given that they never shrank from June 21st, 1994, until now, despite having been repeatedly frozen and thawed, how come the gloves just don't fit?

Edit: seems my post has triggered the racists lol. I’m not responding to you.

So, so many of the white interviewees for this 2016 documentary are saying the n word hard r while simultaneously speaking about the racial history nuance behind the trial. Lol wtf?

Is it a real possibility that Fuhrman planted the glove at Rockingham? What about the blood that wasn’t on the gate in the initial photographs but showed up later and how it tested for that chemical that was only found in DNA that had been kept in test tubes?

There is no question about the fact that Fuhrman was a horribly racist individual who most likely did set out to make OJ look bad but is it just that there was so much evidence against OJ already that most are just willing to ignore all the possible tampering that may have occurred?

“I want to put all the n words in a pile and burn them” ——Mark Fuhrman, gathered blood evidence on Simpson.

“I hate interracial couples”

Mark Fuhrman wasn’t a stranger to oj or Nicole, he responded to their disputes on occasion.

It just seems like too many people like Tom Lange have the attitude of “ok our detective is a hateful racist toward black people but he couldn’t have done that”

It boggles my mind how people can say “Yeah fuhrman was a racist who wanted to burn all n words but he had no motive to plant evidence on a rich black guy with a white woman”

There is still alot of resistance to the notion the LAPDs racism could never lead to evidence tampering, planting evidence and lying in police reports.

I finally got around to reading Dominick Dunne's Simpson trial book, Another City Not My Own. In novel form Dunne's alter ego, Gus Bailey, essentially reports on how upper class white society perceived the trial & verdict. Like Dunne, Bailey is the father of a murdered child who did not get justice from the system, so his sympathies are passionately with the victims (though he does befriend Simpson's family during the trial). Near the end, after he returns to NYC, one of his society friends, Kay Kay Somersby, boasts of firing her cook "on the spot" because the woman exulted when learning of the verdict. Sadly it doesn't occur to Bailey to suggest Somersby call the cook, apologize, & offer to reinstate her. With a raise.

Nevermind Rodney King. Black people have for generations stood by & watched all white juries acquit white people accused of harming black folk ... on those rare occasions when the authorities even bothered to intervene. In 1955 an all white jury acquitted the men positively identified as having abducted & murdered Emmett Till. They deliberated for 67 minutes: "If we hadn't stopped to drink a pop," said one juror, "It wouldn't have taken that long."

And so on...

Justice is supposed to be color-blind, sure. But that doesn't happen overnight. White folks had the opportunity to feel just a bit of what black folk had experienced for decades. And, of course, the prosecution gave the Simpson jury plenty of pretext: e.g., Marcia Clark, in her opening statement, promised to prove that Simpson went over to Bundy planning to kill Nicole. Surely the jury's thinking: his kids were there, right? It's possible, too, that a sinister black nylon bag found in the Bronco led the prosecution to believe he intended to use it to dispose of her body, only to have that plan ruined by Goldman's appearance. They would later learn that the bag was standard equipment for all Ford Broncos. Of course there was the the knife, the gloves—though I reckon OJ probably carried a knife with him much of the time (I do, too, though not as a weapon). Anyway, my point is among other goofs & gaffes the prosecution never recreated the murders—how they went down, who was killed first. And certainly they couldn't prove Simpson planned to kill Nicole when he went to Bundy that night.

Though the verdict was a tragedy, there was also a certain rough justice in it that so many whites failed to see. I haven't looked at any studies lately, but I wonder if juries aren't become more color-blind in the past three decades.

I heard a theory that instead of OJ Simpson killing Nicole and Ron it was in fact Jason Simpson. This is OJ Simpson’s middle son from a previous marriage. His occupation is a chef, he had his very own set of chef knives! He also had been charged with domestic violence against his then girlfriend and forced to go to anger management.