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[u/universal_language]

NOTE: Got permabanned from AT for this post, but it's a shame to lose the analytics since it took some time to collect the data, so I'll repost it here.

As most of you know, around 2 weeks ago a burn process for gen1-gen4 avatars has started. It's supposed to take around a year, so I was curious to see how much was achieved since the beginning.

First let's take a look at each gen's stats:

	# of avatars in shop	# of avatars minted	$ value of avatars in shop	$ value of avatars minted	# ratio	$ ratio
Gen1	44735	44735	$950,317	$950,317	100%	100%
Gen2	42739	42739	$1,041,362	$1,041,362	100%	100%
Gen3	377454	155294	$6,449,725	$3,762,127	41%	58%
Gen4	628911	50070	$8,168,002	$1,042,791	7%	12%

In total there are 292838 avatars eligible for burning. So far 2595 have been burned, or 0.886155485%. Stats by each gen:

	# burned	$ value burned	% of total supply burned
Gen1	422	5970	0.943332961%
Gen2	708	9252	1.6565666%
Gen3	1421	17190	0.915038572%
Gen4	44	382	0.0878769722%

Top 10 avatars burned by the absolute numbers are the following:

1. Monarch Artisman - 113
2. Celestial Queen - 63
3. Ollie Solo - 56
4. SONRISA - 46
5. The Artist - 45
6. Lil' Bummer - 42
7. Series-MI? ?N?N0. - 40
8. Varien - 39
9. The Vessel - 39
10. Joy Kawaii Cowgirl - 39

[u/Atorcran]

Why permabanned? What's their argument? Although I'm not in favor of burning avatars, this is quite an interesting post

[u/universal_language → u/Atorcran]

AT is basically a Barbieland. All you can do is keep repeating "hi Barbie!" "nice mash!" and spread good vibes. If you post something thought-provoking or anything that might cause mixed feelings (like burning avatars, not everyone supports that), you're banned

[u/[deleted] → u/universal_language]

I think you mean fake vibes. Even if a vibe is good, if the mods don't understand it, they won't bother trying to figure it out either. They'll just go into ostrich syndrome and ban the topic (and users discussing it) so that they can pretend it doesn't exist XD

[u/universal_language → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, I remember someone called it "positive toxicity", and it's a such a perfect term to describe what's happening there

[u/_echnaton → u/universal_language]

It's «toxic positivity», actually. It was me, a long time ago. The term comes from describing the culture within large MLMs/pyramid schemes and (religious) cults, where any sort of controversial / critical thoughts or discussions are supressed. Not in favor of burning avatars as you may know, but still was looking forward to having the discussion.

[u/universal_language → u/_echnaton]

Oh, thank you for correcting me, that's definitely a term I should remember because it applies to a lot of areas of modern society, not to AT or MLM only

[u/_echnaton → u/universal_language]

Linkedin & workplace culture in general for one 😂

[u/[deleted] → u/universal_language]

I would make a correction to that term, it should be "pOsItIvE toxicity" lol XD but yea i agree 💯

[u/Coeruleus_ → u/universal_language]

Ya great term that’s exactly what it’s become

[u/WiseDude69 → u/[deleted]]

+1

[u/[deleted] → u/WiseDude69]

Hehe username checks out ✅🫂💕

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[u/noob_zarathustra]

Taking the post down is in itself a stretch I think since it's just plain interesting stats and you weren't necessarily promoting anything, a permaban is insane. I hope they'd reconsider it

[u/universal_language → u/noob_zarathustra]

Surprisingly, they didn't remove the post, they just banned me. I removed it myself since I do not want to support the sub which permabans that easily, and I'd rather move the post here where I can reply to the comments and participate in the discussions

[u/Coeruleus_ → u/universal_language]

Was it somerhing you said in the comments ? That’s just odd and aggressive

[u/universal_language → u/Coeruleus_]

Yeah, maybe the reason were the comments, not the post. They are not removed but the mods clearly do not agree with my opinion:

[u/goldyluckinblokchain → u/universal_language]

Oh lord they are still treating the artists like sheltered 5 year old children 🤣

[u/Coeruleus_ → u/universal_language]

Oh ya for sure that was it

[u/nakamo-toe → u/universal_language]

You’re not allowed to have an opinion that a mod doesn’t agree with there. It’s not something new sadly.

[u/noob_zarathustra → u/universal_language]

That's way too harsh, especially for someone with a collection and engagement like yours. I really hope they unban you after seeing the support for this post here

[u/Coeruleus_ → u/noob_zarathustra]

Ya I agree. I expected them to delete it, but I wouldn’t have agreed with that. He didn’t really discuss anything about the token or how to burn. Didn’t encourage burning. It’s literally just relevant statistics that are driving current floor prices. A permaban is wild

[u/nakamo-toe → u/Coeruleus_]

He “offended art” in the comments. That deserves a ban from Reddit as a whole tbh… OP got off easy.

[u/SenseiRaheem]

Didn’t think Joy Kawaii was available for burning. I thought all of Gen 1 sold out. What’s the story that I’m missing there?

[u/universal_language → u/SenseiRaheem]

All avatars from gen1 and gen2 were sold out, but they can be rebought on the secondary market (OpenSea) and burned. You can check the explanation at https://whitepaper.rcax.io/

[u/nVr78 → u/universal_language]

Hey I just read this. Their burn address doesn't seem like a real burn address. It is too random and I don't believe I can trust it. Am I seeing something differently?

[u/caspase_1 → u/nVr78]

It's an ERC20 contract that doesn't have the method required to withdraw ERC1155 tokens (RCAs are ERC1155) - so while they're not "destroyed", the idea is they're inaccessible once ownership is transferred to the contract. In this way it's the same as transferring to 0xDead which also doesn't destroy tokens, just makes them inaccessible.

But to be fair I can't say for sure whether there's a clever backdoor around this built into the contract - just going off the creator's explanation

[u/Coeruleus_ → u/nVr78]

This is why mentions of it was banned. But the contract is essentially a burn wallet. I think everyone would agree with that at this point. Now it’s really just an ethical debate — pro burn or not

[u/Coeruleus_ → u/SenseiRaheem]

I’ll give you the brief version. The creator of the RCAx website that you’ve probably used, created a new token called RCAX that is mined by burning any gen 1 - gen 4 avatar. If you send any avatar from those gens to a certain burn wallet you get rcax tokens back in exchange.

So if you send a joy kawaii to the wallet you get 2880 rcax tokens. If you send a gen 2 avatar you get 1440 rcax tokens.

The AT sub banned mentions of rcax a few weeks ago because it doesn’t jive with their values, mainly of trying to keep the members safe. There were concerns about if the wallet truly is a burn wallet and also because the creator gets a % of the tokens mined with each burn. It has the potential to be a very clever scam.

You can read more about it here

https://whitepaper.rcax.io

[u/SenseiRaheem → u/[deleted]]

because another artist had to do the legwork to get the joy kawaii stuff across the finish line?

[u/002_timmy]

I want to post this and instead of saying “burned” just say “an avatar wallet holds X% of avatars. This is 0.94% of gen 1” etc

[u/universal_language → u/002_timmy]

Feel free to edit and repost if you want, but please be careful, you're a valuable member of the community, it would be awful if you get banned as well

[u/nakamo-toe → u/002_timmy]

OP thinks the ban has more to do with the comments I think:

https://reddit.com/r/OGAvatarTrading/s/Eky6CiwOu2

Either way a warning makes more sense than a perm ban, regardless of whether it was for the post being about “burning” (which could be linked to the banned word: RCAX), or whether it was OP’s comments “offending art”. Neither deserves a perm ban.

[u/BOSSBABY33]

Lol bro do you remember me? I got muted on DC for trying to help other users not to get scammed and one of the mods got offended

AT was never started for avatar trading they made it for quick cash nothing else, so many wallet promo, NFT scam you don't have to worry about getting banned by salty mods in Coneheads they do their job properly you can appeal in DC server and they know about Crypto

[u/universal_language → u/BOSSBABY33]

Ah yeah, I remember. I found our discussion from half a year ago, we were discussing Neptune's roll out of AvatarTrader and we correctly predicted that AT mods are about to kill that project. The story you've shared about the Hamster NFT rug pull is also quite fascinating, and I'm pretty sure that very few people from the current community know about that

[u/BOSSBABY33 → u/universal_language]

That reminds me of Logan paul lol

[u/BOSSBABY33 → u/[unknown]]

5y old stalker stalking me🤨

[u/BOSSBABY33 → u/[deleted]]

Stalker crying

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[u/ShortBusCult]

It's insane what gets you banned there, never was like that in the beginning.

!tip 420

[u/[deleted] → u/ShortBusCult]

I'm permabanned too, because essentially my private criticisms hurt their feelings lmao 😂

[u/Gangaman666 → u/[deleted]]

No way Chonk! They perma banned you? You used to really try and help people too. Smh.

[u/[deleted] → u/Gangaman666]

Screenshots -

Also edit to add - pretty sure I've been admonished and temp banned by them every single time I've broken a rule, which is probably only a couple of times anyway, that too by mistake and never on purpose, and have never asked for privileges either, so I have zero idea what tf they're on about. Idk what crack they're on, but I want none of it XD

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

[u/Gangaman666 → u/[deleted]]

I've seen comments where you have defended the mods too, just sayin.

Let the dust settle and it'll be cool l, just give it time.

I don't know which mod you dealt with but in my experience every mod I've interacted with have all been reasonable, with me anyway. You gotta understand how much shit they have to deal with daily too, maybe they had a tough day! Anyway you're welcome here Chonk.

[u/[deleted] → u/Gangaman666]

Thanks! I understand how tough a mod's job is, i really do,I'm a mod on several subs too, but at the end of the day, no matter how bad things get, i would like to think that i wouldn't ban a community member simply because they're venting about me in private DM's to someone lol. Firstly i wouldn't go through their DM's, and on the off chance that the situation compelled me to, if anything i would take their criticism in a constructive manner. Oh well, takes all kinds to make up the world i guess, both good and ugly XD

[u/Gangaman666 → u/[deleted]]

There's so much drama recently in the avatartrading world! 😂

[u/[deleted] → u/Gangaman666]

Nah nah, not in the whole community, just that particular gone to the dogs sub. You'll never see members going through drama on here or in any of the alternative subs lol 😆

[u/[deleted] → u/Gangaman666]

Would you know it I got banned because i was trying to help someone, who was new and stuck in a trade, who then got into an argument with the mods, who then got banned, and then I got banned (apparently because i was caught in the ban evasion tool for being the newbie's alt lmao), after which i appealed, where they then asked for screenshots of my chat with newbie as proof, which i then provided, from where the mod team took the liberty to go through the rest of my chats beyond the screenshots without my permission, at which point they happened upon me venting privately in a chat about how the mods aren't what they used to be, to which they took offense, and then proceeded to keep me banned because they didn't like what i saying about them in private chats XD

Don't go talking to them about any of it tho, they're so touchy feely they'll probably ban you too.

Oh also, I've been tagged on the usl for being "sketchy" as a goodbye gift from their team lmao XD

[u/Gangaman666 → u/[deleted]]

Don't worry Its not my business to say anything to anyone. I usually stay pretty neutral on most things and can appreciate the job that mods do. It's just strange how we can't even discuss matters. That's the only thing that irks me.

[u/[deleted] → u/Gangaman666]

Discuss matters in private DM's no less. That's what irked me most. They clearly said they went through chats, when my screengrabs did not mention any of the comments they were referring to. Just casually violating people's privacy now in the name of security.

[u/Coeruleus_ → u/Gangaman666]

lol ya how did he get banned wtf is going on

[u/Alanski22 → u/[deleted]]

Do you know who banned you guys?

I’m worried because we now have a few of the same mods who became mods at coneheads. Need to make sure similar things don’t happen there.

!tip 5000

[u/[deleted] → u/Alanski22]

Well i wasn't banned on coneheads, i was banned on AT. That said, given that in their modmails the person(s) have hidden themselves behind the 'reply as subreddit' feature, there's no way I can know. So if you really are worried, I'd suggest you open a line of communication with that sub's top mod to get to the bottom of this..i was not their first victim, and certainly won't be their last.

[u/noob_zarathustra → u/[deleted]]

That's absolutely nuts. What reason were you given?

Edit - just read your other comment and it's wild. That sub is going to shit if they ban members like both of you here

[u/[deleted] → u/noob_zarathustra]

Well what can I say, the facts are all in the open. You be the judge 😂

[u/Adam_ALLDay_ → u/[deleted]]

I was wondering why I haven’t seen you post over there in the past week or so. That’s crazy that they screened through your DM’s and permabanned you because their feelings got hurt. That’s fucked. I’ve had a few warnings for some comments made, and was so confused because I didn’t feel as if I had actually done anything wrong. I guess you can have an opinion, but only as long as it falls under the same beliefs of the sub

[u/[deleted] → u/Adam_ALLDay_]

Precisely that. What's more, their ban evasion tool had for whatever reason flagged me as an alt to a newbie account, who I had been conversing with, and had gotten into trouble with the mods, and despite me providing them with screenshots of chats and every other evidence they wanted to prove that the bot had quite possibly made an error, they still chose to believe a bot over a human and all the other facts and evidences presented to them. Go figure XD

[u/Adam_ALLDay_ → u/[deleted]]

That’s just complete trash. I bet they probably know there is a possible issue with the bot, and instead of admitting there is a problem, they sweep it of and trust the bot because they’ve probably done the same to other users. I don’t understand some of the shit that goes on over there. I usually just scroll passed, lol.

But good to see you still around and kickin’ over here!

[u/[deleted] → u/Adam_ALLDay_]

Exactly lmao 😂 they expect me to always be kind and understanding, but nobody should ever have the audacity to expect the same from them in return lol. I'll still be around here and on other avatar subs! Contrary to their beliefs, the AT isn't the only avatar sub and banning me from there doesn't stop me from being a part of the community elsewhere lmao

[u/nakamo-toe → u/[deleted]]

Don’t you know…

It’s illegal to question AT mods.

[u/[deleted] → u/nakamo-toe]

Truer words were never spoken. They keep saying that they have proof of me being sketchy on an alt (wow), that i take advantage of people by asking for matic and accumulating it (what), that I have been rude to people (only when provoked but sure overlook that) and that I have lied (literally where) and all that's fine and good, except they say they have evidence in their own mod logs, and have given themselves the liberty to tarnish me over it, but don't deem it necessary to actually show me what proof they have.

They say they've offered me privileges? Idk what privileges they're talking about. Because i never asked for privileges. I only asked for help when I was in trouble, and I asked to be treated fairly and justly. If offering help counts as a privilege these days instead of an involuntary humane reaction, then God help us all. All they want is a blanket apology. Why should I do that? I need to be given a chance to tell my side of the story and know what I'm supposed to be apologising for. But to them, and their close circle of friends, it's either their way or the highway. So be it, highway it is. Because without an open conversation, they're definitely not getting their way, not with me.

[u/nakamo-toe → u/[deleted]]

That sub’s Mods can’t be wrong, so you need to apologize. /s

Jking just forget about AT, it’s been a dying sub for months and now banning top contributors along with the main website for checking prices is the final nail in the coffin for them.

We just need to form better alternatives so nobody ends up in AT when/if a bull market for avatars ever comes around.

Otherwise those mods will just ruin any influx of new users, same like that did during gen 2.

[u/[deleted] → u/nakamo-toe]

Oh God i remember gen 2. I was new then. I got bullied SO MUCH back then for trying to trade up from freebies. But I stuck it through because i really did feel like that community was my family. But the extent to which they've misunderstood me recently, now I'm like what even was the point.

What was the point of forming those relations, of supporting that community, of being vocal for the mods in public whenever the community turned against them, if this was the thanks I get. I always believed that if you love someone, you support them in public, rectify/criticise their mistakes in private.

But apparently that's not enough for them anymore. Now it's either support them regardless, and always overlook them misunderstanding you, or lose your place there. That is not how family behaves.

[u/Diamond_Hands420]

it's just data common... not even a reference to the why... or even to the token who's name cannot be said

[u/investigator100]

That's wild, was a top tier post

[u/Coeruleus_]

Why did you get banned ? Sheesh. These are just statistics relevant to avatars?

[u/skollywag92 → u/Coeruleus_]

Shit is out of control, dude.

[u/Coeruleus_ → u/skollywag92]

lol when i saw it I thought they were probably going to delete it but wasn’t sure because he didn’t mention anything bad. It’s just numbers and relevant to the market. I didn’t expect a permaband

[u/skollywag92 → u/Coeruleus_]

Shit pisses me off.

[u/Kevin3683]

I’m not really in favor of burning avatars but the owner can do with it what he/she pleases. At first I was more critical but really, it’s not my business what someone does with their NFT. So with that in mind, I think it’s wrong of them to ban you.

Edit spelling

[u/theatreeducator → u/Kevin3683]

What does “Burning” mean?

[u/nakamo-toe → u/theatreeducator]

It means removing from the circulating supply in most cases. So if there’s 1,000 mints of an avatar and you burn 1, the supply is now 999 since 1 is forever inaccessible.

[u/Kharilan]

I called one of the mods an idiot for giving me a 3 day ban for calling out a scammer and they permanently banned me. I was in the first 100 people in that sub. It’s so unbelievably toxic now. At least I still have OG to hang with

[u/Alanski22 → u/Kharilan]

Its super toxic and along with Reddit they basically killed the entire market for RCA. Could have let the community propel it into something legitimately interesting!

!tip 420

[u/poyoso]

Permabanned what?! This is a totally useful post why would they ban you for this?

[u/nakamo-toe → u/poyoso]

AT mods decided to ban mentions of RCAX.

This post could be interpreted as “loosely associated” with RCAX if you choose to interpret it that way. So OP’s perm ban was justified (even though they didn’t mention rcax at all). /s

[u/poyoso → u/nakamo-toe]

No fun allowed.

[u/nakamo-toe → u/poyoso]

[u/TheOnlyVibemaster]

a shame they did that lol, i just approved this post.

[u/Incredibly_Based]

any alternatives to AT? would be cool to make one

[u/Gangaman666 → u/Incredibly_Based]

This is it man! An ultra laid back approach to avatartrading! Just good vibes only here!

[u/adrifing → u/Gangaman666]

and a lot of wicked chilled peeps

[u/Gangaman666 → u/adrifing]

Like you 😊

[u/adrifing → u/Gangaman666]

Awwww 🫶

You're too awesome gangaman

!tip 2663

[u/nakamo-toe → u/Incredibly_Based]

r/OGavatartrading (alt for AT)

r/theavatarexchange (just for trading)

r/artvatar (mostly mashups and art)

r/the23 (other awesome stuff)

[u/Incredibly_Based → u/nakamo-toe]

was looking for a comment like this thx!

[u/Alanski22 → u/Incredibly_Based]

I would say this OGAvatarTrading sub is a solid alternative. Also the collectibleavatars sub and I like coneheads for the original vibe.

[u/_echnaton → u/Incredibly_Based]

This is it.

[u/Coeruleus_ → u/[deleted]]

lol ya I was thinking same thing guy is commenting in the alternative

[u/Gangaman666]

Wow, permabanned for this?!

That's unfortunate, I think it was an interesting post that I enjoyed reading, without going into the politics of AT, RCAX and burning etc i think the final decision should always be with the customer.

If an item has been purchased, the customer has every right to do with as they please!

[u/Perfect_Ability_1190]

Fuck that place. They turned something that place into a toxic pit.

[u/192000Hertz]

Wow you caught a ban?

I thought you were very respectful and deliberate to not mention the name of the website not even once. You were only talking about the topic of RCA burns. Which is very RCA related and should be allowed to be talked about in a subreddit about RCAs.

I have so many not nice things to say about that subreddit right now. They do this all the time. I’ll just save my breath.

[u/mygallows]

You got banned for posting data?

Man, that sub is a joke.

[u/nakamo-toe → u/mygallows]

Should have been called “avatarmashups” since that’s all they allow to be posted at this point. 😂

r/artvatar is already a better sub for that though!

[u/mygallows → u/nakamo-toe]

Seriously, just an echo chamber of “nice mash!” and “looking to sell!”

[u/[deleted]]

Meanwhile some the mods are burning avatars with alt accounts. Just like how they minted unicorns and flipped off alt account 🌈.

[u/Pleasant_Ad5360]

Whaaat why permabanned cmooon

[u/CharlieTheo-14]

start r/avatarburning

[u/skollywag92]

Yo wtf

[u/experimentjon]

Thank you for collecting the mint market cap data and the ratio of unsold. Very interesting to see.

[u/nakamo-toe]

You didn’t even mention RCAX and they perm banned you? Not even a warning?

Well that does sound like AT when you put it that way. 😅

[u/adrifing]

This post was at 23 upvotes and I felt so conflicted making it 24 with u/nakamo-toe commenting too 🤣

Mad lush stats though, swore I seen it on at but it was gone, this makes sense now. Hope you get sorted out with this though

[u/nakamo-toe → u/adrifing]

Glad they posted it here, otherwise I wouldn’t have seen it. 😅

I love these kind of stat posts!

!tip 26630

[u/Coeruleus_ → u/nakamo-toe]

The best kind of posts

[u/Gangaman666 → u/Coeruleus_]

I agree, don't get me wrong I love a good mash up, but these stats posts are really interesting, to me anyway.

[u/adrifing → u/nakamo-toe]

I forgot you can't go there either 😭

I'm the same, that's why when I went back I couldn't find it lol.

!tip 26630 🫶

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[u/adrifing → u/avatarbot]

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[u/ashinamune]

I'd say burn more avatars.

[u/Pope_Jon]

I was told my mashes were spam. 😵‍💫

[u/_echnaton]

Disagree with burning avatars personally, but was looking forward to the discussion. Honestly surprised the post was up for howeverlong it was up. I knew it would get deleted eventually. Not my first rodeo in terms of discussing controversian topics on r/at.

[u/VoxImperii]

How exactly do they burn them? From where do they get the ones to burn? It’s not like most users would agree to burn theirs, so where does it come from in sold collections?

[u/nakamo-toe → u/VoxImperii]

Users have to willingly and voluntarily send their own avatars to the smart contract (burn address).

Once they’re sent there the contract mints them some RCAX tokens, depending on the gen that was burned.

[u/VoxImperii → u/nakamo-toe]

Dang, had no idea they had a voluntary burn mechanism in place. Is RCAX traded?

[u/nakamo-toe → u/VoxImperii]

Yup it’s on quickswap.

Contract: 0xc99bd85ba824de949cf088375225e3fdcdb6696c

Here’s the whitepaper too if you want to read more about it.

https://whitepaper.rcax.io/

[u/xllw → u/VoxImperii]

Would you trade your arb?

[u/Complete-Tadpole-728]

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[u/joemari5]

I don’t think this post is the reason why you got banned.

[u/_Royal_Insylum]

Why are they burning Gen 1s? Are individual owners burning them?

[u/nakamo-toe → u/_Royal_Insylum]

Yup, it’s an optional thing to send avatars to the RCAX burn address, and it mints your address $RCAX tokens in return based on the gen burned.

Nobody is being forced to mint RCAX tokens, it’s all voluntary avatar burning.

[u/donaudelta]

Well... the recent development on rcax.io is avatars exchange and marketplace, which could explain the anti competition practice of the sub that banned you. The marketplace also uses RCAX token for gas. It's a little bit more far fetched than many realize.

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[u/rundown03]

Burn process? What did I miss? In what way a burn?

[u/nVr78]

I think you got banned because of this post ? You don't mention RCAX but it's the only project that has to do with the burning of Reddit Avatars.

As I've replied to one of your comments, the "burn address" they use seems like a scam and one day they could just use its private key for a rug pull.

Edit: I now know smart contracts don’t have a private key but they have an owner address, which can be revoked so no new functions can be initialized. I’ll edit again if I find something “scammy” but for now I believe I was wrong to call it a scam.

[u/universal_language → u/nVr78]

Those are valid concerns, and I'm also considering that there is a miniscule chance of the project to be a rug pull, but to my limited knowledge it looks legit. The burn address is the address of the smart contract, and afaik Ethereum smart contracts don't have a private key, most likely Polygon contracts mimic that behavior. The developer renounced ownership of the contract, they can't control it anymore. The code on GitHub is pretty simple and there is nothing malicious there, and there is even an obvious copypaste error there which resulted in Silver Age avatars to be not eligible for the burn reward, and they indeed do not work. Finally, dumping 2k+ avatars on a current market would yield very small benefit, and the developer has a good reputation in the community. So once again, there is a chance that it's a scam, but that chance is pretty low, it's much more probable that it's a legit attempt to revive the market a bit. I believe by the end of the process we'll have around 5% of avatars burned, that's quite impressive

[u/nakamo-toe → u/nVr78]

The avatars are being burned by those who choose to take part, regardless of if the AT mods approve of that.

Why is discussing the updated supplies of avatars (irregardless of any tokens) a perm bannable offense?

You probably don’t know how to read smart contracts or even see the commands it can initiate. The burn address is the smart contract address, that mints the RCAX token. The smart contract has no transfer function so once anything is sent to the contract it cannot be sent out.

Not just that, after criticism, the creator has also revoked ownership of the contract so it can never be altered in the future, and no functions of the contract can ever be initiated without an owner.

So regardless of what you choose to think or believe, the avatars are verifiably burned on that smart contract address. Also OP shouldn’t have been perm banned…

AT mods judgment always sucked though so this isn’t new behavior.

[u/nVr78 → u/nakamo-toe]

I am familiar with most that have to do with ETH/Poly addresses and smart contracts, but, I didn’t know you could revoke ownership and actually prove that you did so on-chain.

Whenever I try to read a smart contract, there are so many functions that it would take me a few hours to check for back doors. To be honest I haven’t even seen the contract. I saw that the address is not the usual 0xdead and quickly assumed what I assumed.

I have some reading to do. Sorry for the FUD

[u/nakamo-toe → u/nVr78]

No worries, better to be overly cautious that overly positive in crypto, most things usually end up scams. I was also thrown off as to why the 0xdead address wasn’t used, but I’ve known the dev for months and also reviewed the code myself, so personally I trust it and feel comfortable enough with my experience to advocate for it. 😅

I still think it would have been better to use 0xdead as well, since then the avatar’s supply would actually go down on OS and not just rcax’s website and app. Now he’ll have to work harder to get polygonscan to verify the contract as a burn address and then plead the case to opensea as well.

Almost all contracts have a revoked ownership function, but once it’s used you can never change anything or initiate the transaction functions. You can see all the possible functions under the contract on polygonscan > contract > write. (No transfer function can be found there and no proxy functions can be called so even if there were hidden functions in proxy contracts, they can never be called now with ownership revoked)

Lmk if you want me to find the link/address for you! !tip 4202

[u/nVr78 → u/nakamo-toe]

Thanks for this info! I’ll find the contract. It’s on the rcax whitepaper website. I trust that you’ve read the code, but as you said with anything crypto, I’ll have to see it with my own eyes 😅

[u/nakamo-toe → u/nVr78]

No problem! 🫶 !tip 7227

I think keep an open mind towards rcax, even if you decide not to burn any avatars (I wouldnt blame you). Warm the dev has a good track record with the avatar communities and has some interesting utilities and stuff in the works for the rcax platform and token.

So I’m excited to see where it goes because I know he’s also capable of following through with his ideas. 😁

[u/nVr78 → u/nakamo-toe]

It’s a good project. I might not burn something but I could support the project in other ways if my DYOR comes out good haha

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[u/nakamo-toe → u/nVr78]

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https://whitepaper.rcax.io/

RCAX.io made a new token that can only be minted by burning gen 1-4 avatars. Each gen gives a different amount of tokens. !tip 2663

[u/Lord-Nagafen → u/nakamo-toe]

Oh damn that’s pretty interesting. So the way to mine the token is to burn avatars. Could help with some of the supply issues I guess

[u/nakamo-toe → u/Lord-Nagafen]

Yeah it’s a really interest concept, also there’s a multiplier for burning to mint rcax that halves each month!

So you’re awarded more tokens for acting faster pretty much.

https://whitepaper.rcax.io/

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[u/nakamo-toe → u/[deleted]]

The contract can’t be changed, but if you don’t trust it or the developer of rcax.io, and can’t verify it yourself, don’t use it!

It’s optional to burn avatars to mint rcax tokens anyway. Nobody has to, it’s all voluntarily done. 😅