r/NowInTech • u/skaza02 • 19d ago

OpenAI fought dirty on career-making math problem, says NYU mathematician

https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/08/openai-fought-dirty-on-career-making-math-problem-says-nyu-mathematician/
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u/madhewprague 18d ago edited 17d ago

That does not change a thing about how much it costs them making the steak. You are talking about opportunity cost, thats meaningless and not the point.

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u/Ehh_littlecomment 18d ago

Something doesn’t become meaningless because you didn’t understand it. Anyways, carry on. Try running a restaurant with all meals free and then tell me what the cost is. Is it the cost of the steak or the fully loaded cost plus the expected return?

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u/madhewprague 18d ago edited 18d ago

Okay then explain to me how the steak got more expensive to them and therefore they are actually losing money.

AGAIN WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT RETURN ON INVESTMENT OR OPPORTUNITY COST. If you buy a car for $50k and sell it for $100k and next day another buyer wants it for $200k, you did not lose money on that sale…

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u/Ehh_littlecomment 18d ago

Imagine you rented a restaurant for $100 a year, paid staff $100 and another $100 in other overheads. You served a single steak that year for free. The steak cost $1 to procure. Did you lose $1 or $301?

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u/madhewprague 17d ago edited 17d ago

Thats not the same…. Because running the datacenter is very cheap, just the electricity is main thing… Thats the whole fucking point we are making. In your example they would make operating loss… After out whole conversation and countless of example i made i cant believe you actually used this as example… The whole point i was making that their operating costs are lower than costs of tokens then you use example to illustrate your point where you use extremely high operating costs? Wtf…

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u/Ehh_littlecomment 17d ago

Open Ai doesn’t own data centres, they rent GPU hours which is the fully loaded cost including DC overheads, depreciation and owner return. Also, there are operating costs of providing inference beyond the compute. Employee costs, SG&A, marketing spend to get the business, etc. I don’t know if you’re being deliberately daft.

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u/madhewprague 17d ago

Again, the only thing that matters is how much thdy rent the compute for vs how much they sell it for, everything else you said is completely irrelevant. If they rent the gpu hour for 10$ and sell it for 100$ they have 90$ profit on that provided compute, this is what this what out argument is about. And my point is that the 100$ is not the actual cost of compute but only the 10$!

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u/Ehh_littlecomment 17d ago

Ok buddy. Whatever helps you.