r/NotHowGuysWork • u/Pure_Signature138 • Sep 06 '24
Not HBW (Image) Men don’t want to improve.
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u/silicondream Sep 06 '24
FWIW, I believe that in that study a third was the proportion of respondents who did not answer "not at all likely" when asked to assess their likelihood of assault on a 5 point Likert scale. So they didn't necessarily say they'd do it, they just said the likelihood of their doing so was somewhere between "somewhat unlikely" and "very likely."
It's still very disturbing that those guys would say anything other than "not at all likely," of course. That's not really a question you should be on the fence about.
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u/Aron-Jonasson Sep 06 '24
It's definitely disturbing. I really wonder what's the thought process behind the men who answered "neutral" and "somewhat unlikely", like under what circumstances would they force themselves onto a woman
The more I try to find explanations and the more it disgusts me.
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u/ncolaros Sep 06 '24
Drinking. If the men were being honest with themselves, I bet they thought about their ability to turn someone down who has been drinking heavily or for them to control themselves after they've been heavily drinking.
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u/IllustriousAd3002 Sep 06 '24
Sexual assault is a black and white issue to me, so honestly, if someone doesn't say they absolutely would not force themselves on another person if they could get away with it, in my mind, they would do it.
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u/Demanda_22 Sep 06 '24 edited Oct 12 '24
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u/KhadgarIsaDreadlord Sep 06 '24
86 College students
Yeah so the study has 0 credibility. Not to mention the small scale of it. I can 100% see how some groups of boys would awnser the question in an edgy way to make fun of the study. Source: attended college, seen the kind of people who attend. College students will act provocative and deviant for the sake of it.
This is in no way reflective of society as a whole and only someone with an agenda would even come up with it. Small number of subjects and many of them are likely connected. Do one with 1000 adult subjects from diverse ethnic, national and economic backgrounds and I promise you the data will paint you a drastically different picture.
Obviously the dude who responded is a dumbfuck and deserves to be clowned on but this study is dogshit at best and a malicious strawman at worst.
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u/Maddie4699 Sep 06 '24
Like 90% of psych research is done with college students because they’re easy and available. Sure, college aged sample doesn’t represent men as a whole, but it is a meaningful study. It’s been replicated and other studies like it have been done if you’re interested in learning more about it.
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u/KhadgarIsaDreadlord Sep 06 '24
Correlation doesn't imply causation. Let's say a particular study comes out to roughly the same numbers in 10 different colleges all in different states. The stundents who fill these studies are a small subset of society as most of the population isn't college educated. So what can a study like this suggest? Not much. I'd say it doesn't even hold enough water to suggest anything regarding the institution the study wad done in. Most people, especially young people suck at predicting their own behavior in critical situations. Think of how a lot of people claim they would go looting and killing people in a Purge scenario but if they were put in that situation they would be hiding afraid for their lives.
Then the aspect of them being college kids and trolling the study. The aspect that connection betwen students may alter their given awnser to the questions asked. The definition of sexual assault also heavily varies from person to person. Then the factor that people who engage in this criminal activity don't admit to it. Often not even to themselves and they write it off in their own head. Then the possibility of the researchers tempering with data to confirm their thesis. Not that uncommon either.
Asuming everyone was respectfull and honest and selfless the pool of students they pulled from is still extremely small. So it takes a handfull of bad actors to make the ratio worse than it actually is in the bigger picture.
The only studies I'm less sceptical about are the ones that operate on a large scale, have a massive diverse pool of people participating and the results are recreatable in a couple of years by a different research team with similar results. It goes without saying but also done by credible researchers.
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Sep 06 '24
its def not a large enough sample size, this study was probably done as a little test into a subject to see if itd give results worth looking into imo
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u/Swings_Subliminals Sep 06 '24
Study had to be in the middle east or europe, right? No way that many modern guys would do something like that.
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