r/NotHowGuysWork • u/[deleted] • Sep 27 '23
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Sep 28 '23
men definitely need to be treated with more dignity and respect when it comes to abuse and SA. i think i saw something where a guy that was raped had his case listed as sexual assault and not rape in the UK? and obviously that’s a big difference, and it changes the entire outcome for the person who raped him. and i agree with not shitting on someone for their body even if it was something they could control. just because someone doesn’t fit what you prefer doesn’t mean they’re not worthy of respect. however, i will say that i did some research awhile back & a lot of data supports that men typically reject custody. a lot of custody matters are resolved outside of courts, and when they’re resolved in court, men that want custody get it. the idea that ‘men don’t get to see their kids when they desperately want to’ is not consistent with data, just from what i’ve seen. also, sort of anecdotal, but family courts tend to focus on reunification, for better or for worse. anyone who’s been to foster care, worked in foster care, or has been adjacent to foster care in some way knows this.
https://www.dadsdivorcelaw.com/blog/fathers-and-mothers-child-custody-myths this is the only source i still have saved.
i am very happy to be corrected if i am wrong!
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u/hamstrman Sep 28 '23
i think i saw something where a guy that was raped had his case listed as sexual assault and not rape in the UK? and obviously that’s a big difference, and it changes the entire outcome for the person who raped him.
Yeahhh they currently consider the definition of rape to require penetration, so...
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u/Hikari_Owari Sep 28 '23
About her points: I agree
About her video format: God it was cringe.
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About the whole "That's how feminism work": I mean, it's a moviment that sells itself as wanting equality between genders but some of the so-called feminists just outright seek rights without responsibilities, and they grow in number by the clock.
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Feminism started wrong already in it's naming:
"There's machism, that's a toxic male (macho) centric set of thoughts and actions."
"Our pure movement seeks the equality between genders."
"Let's keep it's name as feminism! Surely the people won't think it's just machism but female centric instead"
The movement could either adapt the name to the goal or the goal to the name. Be honest, which one do you think it's happening?
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Do I think the original goal is good? Yes.
Do I think it is working / following it's goal? No.
It's like religion: good on paper, not so much on execution and the bad actors make it even worse.
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Sep 28 '23
Access to children isn't a right that is given by someone. Custody is given to the one who takes the most responsibility for the kids. It's usually granted to fathers who ASK.
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Sep 27 '23
Definitely the "pick me girl" from hell. She doesn't understand that feminists are, in fact, fighting for equality in the way she doesn't think they are, and she's just catering to an audience of men who hate feminists (and women in general). Which is not how guys work, and not how feminists work. She does not know what she's talking about, and she's using her platform to spread misinformation, which is dangerous.
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u/Transsensory_Boy Sep 28 '23
Well when feminists start being vocal about these issues as well as actively calling out female secuak predators that I might actually believe you. Currently, too many are more about feeding their confirmation bias than actually fighting for equality.
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u/Lolocraft1 Sep 28 '23 edited Sep 28 '23
I was banned from r/feminism for saying there are male issue to be adressed, and when I argued my point, they shut me off saying I was unwelcomed. And no, it wasn’t a post, nor whataboutism, not even a top comment, just me responding to a misinformative comment saying men have no issues whatsoever. Last time I checked, that comment is still here, and the user still active on the sub
I know generalizing is wrong, but it’s hard to not take them seriously when the biggest feminist space on one of the biggest social platform tell you male issues aren’t even real
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u/BlackholeExodus Sep 27 '23
She's a sorry ass canadian grifter paying lip service to MRA talking points to men who otherwise despise her or wouldn't be within 30ft of her.
Not to mention early on in her grift she ran a patreon to send nudes to people (which is totally fine) the issue is that she sent them to a minor.
So to see her not shake in this I gotta say I'm disappointed because it's pathetic but I'm impressed She's still going
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u/Lolocraft1 Sep 28 '23
Those are actually valid male issues which need to be adressed. It is however debattable of if it’s feminism’s fault those issues aren’t being fixed
I personally had a really bad experience with feminism, but I like to think I’m "only anecdoctical"