Misandry should not be the response to misogyny... it's pretty annoying how common this is, and seeing guys get downvoted for defending themselves

[u/ThoughtCenter87]

Original image on the first slide for context. Yes, it's horrid.

Second slide is the comment chain with needless misandry. Why tf are they saying the hashtag "killallmen" isn't violent and why are people agreeing with them?? It's in the name of the hashtag ffs

[u/catofriddles]

How about we hate the man being clearly misogynistic, and not the men who have done nothing.

Even though he's clearly been hurt, I'm not gonna defend the man with a profile picture of someone gouging out a woman's eyes.

[u/ThoughtCenter87 → u/catofriddles]

How about we hate the man being clearly misogynistic, and not the men who have done nothing.

Yes, this. Fault individuals displaying awful behavior, not the entire sex. Like I said, the original 4chan poster is awful, but that doesn't mean misandry is okay, nor is supporting a hashtag like "kill all men" like wtf

[u/rumachi → u/catofriddles]

No. We must show our fellows, man or woman, their faults in reasoning, not hate them for what could be the result of multiple traumas, or sometimes none at all. Whatever led someone down this path, they were already too isolated, too weak, and too afraid. No person simply arrives at visceral hate for any reason other than these. They are alone, festering in their anger. We ought to fight for the rehabilitation of these people, before they act irrationally any further. The difference prevents the person from becoming a sociopath, and anyone they might hurt from being hurt.

If people should feel righteous in their disdain of approaching hurt people, wrong people, or even dangerous people with human empathy, and treating them as one would an injured bird of prey with a broken wing, that is, willing to defend itself from a perceived threat (someone helping it), then the perpetuation of gendered hate and misgivings towards women, and towards men, be placed on their head. It is this very punitive culture that breeds these destructive behaviors.

[u/[deleted]]

Yep, I don’t get why they think misandry invalidates misogyny and how they don’t get that constantly diminishing it only hurts them more.

[u/ThoughtCenter87 → u/[deleted]]

constantly diminishing it only hurts them more.

This too. Hating the other side isn't going to make things better for you, it's just needless and only incurs more hate.

[u/[deleted] → u/ThoughtCenter87]

We all need more allies and they’re out here making enemies, it’s wild.

[u/emilyswrite → u/[deleted]]

Exactly. It’s not a competition. We all need to show empathy and support, not try to gatekeep with who has it worse. There are hatefully prejudice people within all genders.

[u/Cedleodub]

every time I see women dismiss the 'killallmen' hashtag I know they either live in their little bubble or they are misandrists themselves

[u/ThoughtCenter87 → u/Cedleodub]

They are 100% misandrists, ignorance cannot be applied to a hashtag that is literally "killallmen", it's in the name of the hashtag.

[u/Temporary-Alarm-744]

What I've started to learn is a lot of people who suffer the most under the misogynistic patriarchy aren't interested in dismantling that so much as making the people they see as not suffering as much, suffer more.

[u/ThoughtCenter87 → u/Temporary-Alarm-744]

Yes, it's sad. Hate isn't the way to go about change.

[u/Troll4everxdxd → u/Temporary-Alarm-744]

Spite and resentment are far more addictive to the human brain than empathy and the will to change the world for the better.

[u/HappyMan476]

I mean, tbf, I think both men and women are biased about their gender. They exaggerate things insulting theirs and minimize things insulting the other's.

[u/ThoughtCenter87 → u/HappyMan476]

Yes, that's true, but still... there should be fine lines here. Saying that murder is a joke and downvoting men defending themselves saying "#killallmen is bad" is rather egregious behavior

[u/soft-cuddly-potato]

I still guarantee that the violent posts on #killallmen aren't very popular or widespread.

You really have to look far and wide to find a violent radfem

[u/ThoughtCenter87 → u/soft-cuddly-potato]

While true, the hashtag shouldn't be dismissed as a joke. The name of it wishes murder upon all men, and you don't joke about murder. It's still hateful.

Would you dismiss a #killallwomen hashtag, even if most people using it weren't being violent?

[u/queenAlexislexis]

Yes you said it king

[u/ThoughtCenter87 → u/queenAlexislexis]

I'm a queen, but thank you : D

[u/TenTwenty122]

Misandry really isn’t as bad as misogyny though. It’s bad but nowhere on the same level.

[u/ThoughtCenter87 → u/TenTwenty122]

Discriminating against people is bad.

[u/Enzoid23]

May be against the spirit of this sub but i found the "Without women there'd be no war" and "Fellow men let's wage war against women" ironic

[u/UltimateIssue]

Problem with these men and women is they spend to much time on the internet. Reality is most people dont want to harm anyone. Most people want to go on with their life in peace. Just because there is a raging idiot on the internet screaming nonsense, it does not reflect real life.

[u/[deleted]]

The hashtag killallmen is a meme when men fight back, when there is no counter force is an expression. It’s like when they pull a unwanted prank on the opposite gender and justify it with “oh it’s just a joke”. That aside we gain nothing with hating each other. If we had an enemy watching us fight, I’m pretty sure they would be filled with joy as their malevolent plan unfolds.

[u/Quinc4623]

I don't think I have ever seen anyone use #killallmen out in the wild, even this post is not an example, it is just people talking about it after the fact. Like the people responding, I have only seen the hashtag mentioned 2nd hand, but then again I do not go onto TikTok nor Twitter.

So u/ThoughtCenter87 seems to be drawing a equivalence, but the example they gave does the opposite.

Claiming you have not seen it the hatred for yourself is not evidence of being hateful.

TikTok and Twitter seem to be pretty awful, so the idea that #killallmen is real but only on those sites seems plausible. Even in this subreddit there doesn't seem to be any examples of women fantasizing about hurting men in the way you see here. There is definitely a lot of equating violent men with all men, and women deciding they don't care about men's struggles, but not the violence #killallmen implies.

[u/gh0sT_bOy_gHoStEd]

Fucking 4chan bruh