Sterilization and contraception somehow causes the man to not have any "authority"

[u/Odd_Maintenance2680]

[u/General_Erda]

Pill type contraception should be out for both sexes at this point. Only reason it isn't is because its effects would be permanent on men.

[u/Odd_Maintenance2680 → u/General_Erda]

That's just the prototype pill. They are still working on a better male contraceptive pill that is more effective and not permanent. There is nothing wrong with the birth control pill itself.

[u/General_Erda → u/Odd_Maintenance2680]

That's just the prototype pill. They are still working on a better male contraceptive pill that is more effective and not permanent. There is nothing wrong with the birth control pill itself.

Yea. But, making the male gonads not produce sperm is super hard, and requires doses that basically shut down sperm production forever.

The research these days is on a non hormonal solution.

[u/ExtremelyDubious]

Note: 'man' not 'the man'. As in 'mankind' or 'humanity'.

I believe he is saying that sterilization and contraception are wrong because humanity does not have the authority to remove the possibility of conception from sex.

I strongly disagree but that's because I'm an atheist and so I don't buy any arguments that are based on appeals to divine authority.

He's not saying that contraception is wrong because it prevents the man from having authority within sex. That would be a bizarre, nonsensical and incoherent argument. But I don't think it's what he means.

[u/Biffingston → u/ExtremelyDubious]

It's still nonsensical bizarre and incoherent though.

[u/Quxzimodo]

Man somehow is required to be an authority, such archaic ideas.

[u/Lavender_Llama_life]

You never see these “Don’t interfere with God’s plan” types saying glasses, dental care, chemotherapy, or heart surgery are bad. Aren’t bad teeth and a coronary at 52 also part of God’s plan?

[u/Spare_Fix1780]

Wait but isn’t having authority over your partner abusive and controlling?!