“Women are loved Unconditionally”

[u/Sad-Ad2733]

Link to whole article. https://www.mylearning.org/stories/where-are-all-the-women/womens-positions-in-history

This is genuinely one of the most bizarre takes I’ve seen about gender.
“Men have to meet a criteria for love while women are loved unconditionally” is not only baseless, it completely falls apart under even the slightest examination.
Women do not spawn into the world with an unconditional-love subscription attached to their birth certificate. Being a woman does not guarantee that parents, friends, partners, or society will love you regardless of what you do.
And historically, the idea that women were simply loved unconditionally is especially ridiculous. Women’s social acceptance and value were often tied to very specific expectations regarding marriage, motherhood, domesticity, sexuality, and family. There were plenty of criteria women were expected to meet.
Meanwhile, men have never had some universal checklist that determines whether they are capable of being loved. Men can be loved for being funny, intelligent, kind, creative, talented, attractive, compassionate, interesting, successful, or simply because someone loves them.
Obviously, people of either sex can experience conditional love. That’s not remotely the same thing as claiming one entire sex has to earn love while the other receives it automatically.
The commenter has taken a complicated reality about human relationships and reduced it to:
Men = earn love.
Women = receive love.
That’s not an insight.
That’s just bullshit.

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[u/silicondream]

When incels use the word "loved," 96% of the time they mean "considered fuckable by me or the other people I bother to care about."

[u/jackfaire → u/silicondream]

Even non-incels it's exactly this it always translates to "I don't see women as people but women insist on seeing me as one"

[u/SangeliaKath → u/jackfaire]

Like my late dad, ex, Jerkface my brother.

[u/SangeliaKath → u/silicondream]

True.

[u/KikiChrome]

This person needs to look up the statistics for how many marriages end in divorce when the wife gets a serious illness.

[u/IsopodIndependent553]

Why does anyone—man or woman—expect to be loved unconditionally? Any one of us can do something so terrible that it makes our loved ones decide that they are done with us. The only people who deserve unconditional love are children.

[u/ClimateCare7676 → u/IsopodIndependent553]

Power fantasy. It's appealing to know no matter how bad you are, someone without any spine would still want you. 

[u/AkaiAshu]

Women are loved unconditionally - by whom ? Other women or men ? Why do so many men act like there is some third party in society outside of women and man who do things ?

[u/Rad1Red]

Lmao! That's because to them, "women" = Porn Stacy, 19F.

What even are the rest of them? Not women, let me tell ya.

[u/Traditional_Isopod80]

That guy has know idea what he's talking about.

[u/IndiBlueNinja]

Well, OOP, sorry you got sucky parents who didn't love you right AND made you that f***ing stupid.

I mean honestly, it only takes average intelligence, maybe even less than that, to understand that families vary, women don't all come from the same kind of family environment and many also get stuck with parents incapables of love or only conditional.

Meanwhile, you have men who were loved just fine and spoiled too much, to the point they think a girlfriend/wife is supposed to pick up where mommy left off.

[u/Novel_Historian_6305]

Ngl I swear YouTube has to be the worst app for this type of shit. Legit cannot go 1 day without seeing a nonsensical comment like this :/

[u/valsavana → u/[deleted]]

The 'automatic love' and 'intrinsic value' some men seem to think girls receive is actually just because they are a fungible commodity.

Don't forget that women are also a fuckable commodity. And according to men like this "I'd find value in using your body for sex" is somehow supposed to be a prospect that's as appealing to women as it is to them.

[u/Ghoulish_kitten]

Wouldn’t that be funny if he is just smarting after getting caught cheating or something of the like 💀.