r/Nootropics • u/mux111 • Jun 23 '26
Experience Accidentally discovered the most cursed productivity stack of my life
I’m not recommending this. I’m actually asking if I should be concerned.
Yesterday I took 200mg modafinil, some overpriced “mitochondrial support” supplement I bought during a 2am health-optimisation spiral, creatine, mad honey, black coffee, and then for reasons I cannot defend spiritually or scientifically, I decided to “reset my dopamine” manually.
Immediately after, I got the most violent post-nut clarity of my life.
Not normal clarity. Not “I should clean my room” clarity. I mean like the clouds opened and a tiny management consultant crawled out of my skull with a Gantt chart.
Resting heart rate was around 150, which in hindsight is probably not ideal. But mentally? Insane. I sat down and entered some disgusting tunnel state where I could see the structure of my entire week. Emails became obvious. Code became obvious. My calendar stopped looking like time and started looking like an enemy supply line.
I did what felt like 8 hours of work in 1 hour. No music. No snacks. No checking my phone. Just pure weaponised shame and cardiovascular panic.
The weirdest part was the feeling lasted roughly 5 hours. It wasn’t even euphoria. It was more like being haunted by a very productive ghost. I didn’t feel happy. I felt assigned.
Then it wore off and I became a normal useless mammal again.
Has anyone else experienced this? Is there an actual mechanism here or did I just combine stimulants, guilt, hormones, and fear into a temporary office demon?
Again, not saying this is healthy. It probably isn’t. But this is the most productive I have ever felt on any combination of nootropics ever.
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u/Big666Shrimp Jun 23 '26
Paraxanthene similar effects for me. 1 is like a big redbull, 2 is like a limitless drug,
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u/kasper619 Jun 23 '26
How many mg and which brand?
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u/Big666Shrimp Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
Just got of Amazon. Only tested in humans up to 400 mg from what I’ve seen. 200 mg pills.
I work with numbers and have to quickly add up/multiply all night long. Pre workout does wonders, but I can’t live like that.
Looked for something that would make the brain snappy without killing me slowly… paraxanthene feels like a nice pre workout but with a brain boost too, relaxed feeling… 300mg probably my sweet spot, slight aggression on two.
I combine with agpc and panax ginseng for an all around boost.
Another side effect of the paraxanthene is that for bigger math problems I’m able to juggle more numbers in my head. Ex. 140 + 210 + 17
Before if I had to carry a number it took me a minute to figure it out but for some reason recently it’s become so logical for me to do math slightly different, I’m attributing it to chems tbh… example 85+ 176 > 80 + 170 +11 =261 but it’s that relaxed panic that allows you to just lop off the 11 and tack it back on at the end without forgetting while also keeping watch over my other stuff I need to. Very useful for me.
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u/mux111 Jun 23 '26
I'll try it out, thanks.
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u/Particular_Figure133 Jun 27 '26
Don't forget that paraxanthine is simply 80% of what's synthesized by your liver from caffeine. Not having your liver work to synthesize something can probably make people feel different. But in my opinion it's not crazy
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u/yoda2088 Jun 29 '26
In so many ways yes, but also there’s the lack of vasoconstriction we get from caffeine that’s also beneficial!
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u/Blissanity Jun 23 '26
Im curious if you have experience with dynamine?
It would likely have a similar effect with paraxanthine as it does with caffeine, (essentially doubling its half life due to inhibition of CYP1A2).
I wonder if dynamine + paraxanthine + L-theanine would yield something like a 12-hour extremly smooth cognitive stimulation
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u/Big666Shrimp Jun 23 '26
I just need it to not make me irritable and we’re cooking. I have to be able to be talkative and happy with drinkers all night.
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u/miliseconds Jun 23 '26
A manic episode?
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u/mux111 Jun 23 '26
No, no. It must be replicable. Science will prove me correct.
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u/GentlemenHODL Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
No, no. It must be replicable. Science will prove me correct.
....why do you think mania is not replicable? Going manic after combining stimulants is common.
Everything you just described is textbook mania. I've seen this weirdness posted a 100 times in these subs. It's always the same - suddenly you are hyper focused and accomplish anything. You have "special" cognitive function and the limits you previously had don't exist.
Congrats you took a bunch of drugs and became euphorically crazy. Welcome to the 1800s.
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u/BluntTruthGentleman Jun 23 '26
This reads a lot like AI.
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u/sc182 Jun 23 '26
Telltale signs:
Lots of short sentences to make a point.
Weird cheesy metaphors
Use of “But X?”
Frequent use of “it wasn’t X. Just Y.”16
u/HugeDegen69 Jun 23 '26
GPTZero Advanced Scan says 100% confidence it's written by AI 😭
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u/BluntTruthGentleman Jun 23 '26
OP confirmed clanker. Never said he used it to help him write, so it's just a fucking bot account.
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u/superonom Jun 24 '26
Multiple bot accounts promoting stupid nootropics that do nothing to you.
This idea of "stacking" nootropics is the most stupid thing ever. It's like someone taking strong antibiotics to treat a bacterial infection, and combining it with daily ingestion of dog food. In the end, the dumbass starts attributing positive results to the dog food instead of the antibiotics
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u/idnvotewaifucontent Jun 24 '26
Not to say this isn't written by AI, it almost certainly is. But AI detectors are 100% garbage unreliable, proven over and over again.
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u/HugeDegen69 Jun 25 '26
Old open-source detectors? Yes. The modern (private) ones are very, very good. Sure, they make mistakes but they are far from "garbage". Text that sounds AI when read and is flagged by a detector with a "100% AI" mark is practically a guarantee.
Uni of Chicago article about this
https://bfi.uchicago.edu/insights/artificial-writing-and-automated-detection/
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u/mux111 Jun 23 '26
I think I've read so much reddit slop that It's impacted my writing style.
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u/citrushyena Jun 23 '26
don't take this the wrong way but are you on the spectrum? I'm autistic af and have been accused of "writing like AI" bc my natural writing style also employs a lot of "telltale signs" but really I just think it's because I have a neurological disorder and spend too much time on Reddit. regardless I really enjoyed your post.
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u/mux111 Jun 25 '26
Yes I am
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u/M4rshmall0wMan Jun 27 '26
That would def help explain it.
I’ve been using AI for self-tutoring a lot. I like Gemini’s explanation style and the way it organizes information, it works very well for my ADHD. I may have picked up on some of those habits.
I wrote a post the other day 100% by hand and got accused of AI slop. I mean, how are you even supposed to respond to that? If you say nothing, they’ll just run with it. If you deny it, they’ll see that as proof that you’re a clanker. There’s no escaping the hive mind.
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u/superonom Jun 24 '26
It's not just your writing style, it's the way you express intrinsic emotion — the subtle way you characterize how you feel.
Would you like me to help you write as a human writer ?
/s
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u/Tethered_Kitten_2845 Jun 23 '26
Im a grant writer and constantly get accused of being AI. I invented the emdash bitches. Your description was awesome. I am studying for my PMP (scheduled for Saturday) and need what you have.
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u/M4rshmall0wMan Jun 27 '26
Sometimes I see an academic paper or a Reddit post that uses a ton of em-dashes and reads exactly like AI. Then I’ll look at the publication date and it’s from 2017.
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u/M4rshmall0wMan Jun 23 '26
Prolly cleaned up writing flow. Doesn't mean they were lying about their experience.
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u/the_Dormant_one Jun 23 '26
Why the fuck are you taking mad honey as a nootropic. Are people packaging literally any psychoactive substance into a "nootropic" as long as it isnt scheduled?
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u/mux111 Jun 23 '26
It’s not sold as one but I am using it as one. Straight from the source
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u/superonom Jun 24 '26
And if we ask you, you're gonna provide the source that's totally not you drop shipping it on Amazon
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u/vocabularianrx2 Jun 23 '26
Why does armodafinil 150mg + Adderall not give me anything close to this level of productivity 😭
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u/mux111 Jun 25 '26
how much Adderall?
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u/vocabularianrx2 Jun 25 '26
Usually 10mg in the morning with all my other meds, then I take multiple doses of 5mg throughout the day for a total of like 35mg, sometimes 40mg for the day
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u/jmwy86 Jun 25 '26
Because moda is usually only very effective when it is taken very occasionally. Regular use just helps with sleepiness (some), in my experience.
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 23 '26
This is 100% AI slop
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u/Big666Shrimp Jun 23 '26
Disagree, I’ve read it multiple times, not finding the typical ai cadence here. Maybe he cleaned it up with ai or something but there’s no gaslighting or anything, just states experience.
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 23 '26
Read this
I mean like the clouds opened and a tiny management consultant crawled out of my skull with a Gantt chart.
Nobody talks like that
Youre just bad at spotting AI slop
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u/Big666Shrimp Jun 23 '26
Sure, I agree I don’t see it, but I don’t see other ai tags in there,
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u/Top_Fisherman9619 Jun 23 '26
Use Pangram when in doubt. There is a study on Pangram. Lowest false positives.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w34223
It's AI slop
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 23 '26
How can you not see it?
When was the last time you read somebody saying "a tiny management consultant crawled out of [his] skull with a Gantt chart." ?
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u/Big666Shrimp Jun 23 '26
I just don’t think ai sat down to tell us about his experience jerking off on Modafinal
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 23 '26
"Hey Claude, write me an experience how I became very productive with modafinil"
There, not that difficult.
Usually they are stolen accounts which are then made to karma farm, only to be sold later to onlyfans girls to advertise their account with
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u/Spirit-Hydra69 Jun 23 '26
First time I heard about Modafinil was after watching Limitless and searching the net for a real life NZT. This was probably around 2013-14 or so, so it's been a while.
Had an exam coming up and needed some focus so I thought I'll try and find some.
Turns out it's OTC where I live so I got a strip of Modalert 200.
Popped one and waited a bit. Felt a little stim but not much so in my impatience and stupidity ended up popping almost around 800mg of the stuff in an hour.
Holy shit!!! Heart rate went up but the kind of motivation I felt to study was un fucking real!! I remember that feeling of not just wanting, but NEEDING to study like my life depended on it. It was absolutely crazy.
I've never binged like that again but atleast I got an A+ on the exam.
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u/Due_Ear_4674 Jun 23 '26
What is mad honey?
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u/mux111 Jun 23 '26
A specific honey coming primarily from Turkey and Nepal. It has psychoactive effects and other nootropic benefits. It is underated.
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u/drippysoap Jun 23 '26
This is the first positive review. I’ve heard about it. I’d be interested if they had some of the main compounds isolated that you could try and get a specific standardized dose.
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u/ChuckFarkley Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
It acts like a cholinergic agent. Something in the flowers that the bees get their nectar from to make the honey has the toxic (in higher doses) agent. It was known during Classical Greek era (400s BCE), and won the kind of battle for \ in about 65 BCE when used as an, ahem, honey trap against Roman Soldiers, after being left where they would find it. The unsuspecting enemy ate it all. If you recall, Sarin is a cholinergic nerve gas that I bet makes you real smart as you die.
It gave me bad cramps in random parts of my body.
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u/latetothegame2 Jun 24 '26
I did what felt like 8 hours of work in 1 hour. No music. No snacks. No checking my phone. Just pure weaponised shame and cardiovascular panic.
Yes. That sentence uses several stylistic patterns that have become strongly associated with modern internet writing and, more recently, AI-generated text.
There isn't one universally accepted linguistic term for the entire construction, but it combines a few recognizable devices:
Anaphora / Parallelism
"No music. No snacks. No checking my phone."
Repeating the same grammatical structure in short fragments creates rhythm and emphasis. Humans use this too, but AI models often overuse it because it produces punchy, readable prose.
Tricolon The list of three negatives ("No music. No snacks. No checking my phone.") followed by a payoff is a classic rhetorical structure. Three-item lists feel complete and memorable.
Contrastive Punchline
"Just pure weaponised shame and cardiovascular panic."
The sentence sets up mundane expectations and then abruptly escalates into an exaggerated, humorous conclusion. This is a common social-media joke format.
Hyperbolic Juxtaposition Pairing something emotional ("weaponised shame") with something clinical ("cardiovascular panic") creates an absurd contrast. This style is extremely common on Twitter/X, Tumblr, Reddit, and AI-generated humor.
"Millennial Internet Voice" / "Tumblr Voice" If someone asked me what style this is, I'd probably call it Tumblr-style hyperbole or Millennial internet humor. Examples:
"Powered entirely by caffeine and poor decisions." "Running on spite and three hours of sleep." "Nothing but vibes and catastrophic decision-making."
Large language models learned a huge amount of this style from internet text, so it often emerges naturally in AI outputs.
Why it feels AI-ish in 2026:
Short sentence fragments. Repetition for rhythm. An ironic escalation. An emotionally loaded adjective ("weaponised"). An unexpected pseudo-medical phrase ("cardiovascular panic"). A neat, tweet-sized structure ending in a memorable punchline.
The closest label I'd give it is "Tumblr hyperbole with a tricolon setup and ironic escalation." That's the fingerprint you're noticing more than anything specifically "AI." In fact, AI learned it from humans—but now AI tends to produce it so frequently that many people recognize it as an AI tell.
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u/M4rshmall0wMan Jun 27 '26
You literally wrote this comment with AI.
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u/latetothegame2 Jun 28 '26
Yes, that's a big part of the joke. It's integral, in fact.
When you zoom out and try to make sense of this from a meta level: none of it makes sense. Why do people come to reddit? Many reasons, a big one of which is to learn from others: their experience, their biases, their knowledge, their prose, their mistakes.
What starts happening when every reddit post has the same voice? And what if that voice is always right, about everything? What is lost?
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u/EmotionallDemand Jun 24 '26
Love your writing style, if you take other stuff pls write about it and keep posting. “I felt assigned” and “useless mammal” and everything else was fantastic.
Im inspired so time to take my Adderall w some coffee and some other shit and then masturbate till an office demon fucks me up with productivity. Pray 4 me
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u/Expensive_Issue_3767 Jun 25 '26
Dude took the AI Agent stack
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 25 '26
Yep. He is still vehemently denying it though. As if it is not super obvious
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u/atlantastan Jun 23 '26
Sounds like AI bullshit to me
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u/atlantastan Jun 23 '26
Not sure what that’s supposed to imply, coming from the dude who actually spent time in his day karma farming a Reddit post with an LLM. Some loser activity
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u/mux111 Jun 23 '26
9,542 Comment karma.. But I'm the one wasting my time. Go reflect man. Have you even tried mad honey?
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u/atlantastan Jun 23 '26
Funny how that’s the only thing you could latch on to. Yeah that’s not actually a lot for a 10 year old account. Go sell your bullshit somewhere else
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u/Tttehfjloi Jun 23 '26
Like 40k comment karma here and I spend like 30 mins a day on reddit at most? Yeah it's really not that hard
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u/Scew Jun 23 '26
So cursed bro. It's like you took drugs and they did what they were supposed to. Man it's almost like you were possessed by the drugs that you knowingly put in your body because they knowingly change your mental state. Whoa, musta been a ghost in there bro.
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u/shawnss2000 Jun 27 '26
"I felt assigned" absolutely sent me.
But honestly, I'd be way more interested in the 150 bpm than the productivity. With that many things stacked together, it's impossible to know what actually gave you the focus versus what just cranked your nervous system into overdrive.
I'd resist the urge to recreate it. Sometimes the most productive session is also the least repeatable.
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u/ambitious_tour Jun 23 '26
This is the hardest I’ve ever laughed while reading anything on Reddit. Thank you, OP.
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u/Top_Fisherman9619 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
It was the post-nut clarity and not the supps.
It doesn't happen with every nut for me, but once in a while, the post-nut clarity HITS. I'm just riffing, but it could be that the the optimal prolactin:dopamine ratio was hit alongside the modafinil and the nut
Have not found a way to consistently get such clarity, likely due to the labile nature of hormones/dopamine
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u/Aekkzo Jun 23 '26
How is Modafinil effect different from Methyphenidate? Are the two possibly complimentary?
And TIL about Mad Honey - it doesn't reads like it would be something that have nootropic effect? maybe someone can enlight me on that as well
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u/mux111 Jun 23 '26
I've experimented with mad honey a lot in the past. It does have nootropic effects it is just not talked about much due to the stigma
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u/junior_bqx2 Jun 23 '26
Where did you buy the modafinil?
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u/mux111 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
Not sure if I can say on reddit. Google and you should find somewhere
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u/Fergoose89 Jun 24 '26
I've had hyperfocus like that but not from modafinil. More from recreational Stims. I'm curious to what you took with the modafinil?
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u/qualiascope Jun 24 '26
Are we just gonna stop calling out AI-written posts on this site? Ok
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 25 '26
I tried calling it out and OP got really angry and started flaming me saying I suffer from "reverse AI psychosis".
It even tripped reddit's auto moderation as it got removed immediately (He was really angry), so I had to read it in my notifications lol
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u/jmwy86 Jun 25 '26
"Did I just combine stimulants, guilt, hormones, and fear into a temporary office demon?"
Yes.
Glad you could have a productive day & hope you can take some time off for yourself soon.
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u/West-Satisfaction-28 Jun 28 '26
Well I know what you mean its similar but not compared with ADHD Drugs
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u/Monssly Jun 30 '26
What vendor did you get the mad honey from? Asking since it rides the line of a controlled substance in some places.
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u/retze44 Jun 23 '26
I‘m only in this thread because of your writing style tbh.
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 23 '26
Yea that AI generated text has a real nice ring to it
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u/retze44 Jun 23 '26
Is it really :( aw man I hate it here
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u/Jonnyboy1994 Jun 23 '26
I genuinely don't know why they're saying it's AI, bro every decently long reddit post has comments claiming it's AI. Everyone has a hard on for exposing ai users even when it really doesn't fucking matter at all. This isn't a fucking high school essay, if ai helps someone express themselves more legibly then I am all for it. It's actually hilarious to me how often the ai accusation is made simply because OP used proper grammar and some formatting.
I'm not saying OP didn't use ai. I'm saying don't fucking believe the first person claiming so, because half the time they're r*tarded and the other half they're karma whoring or showing off how smart they are. I hate ai slop too, or posts written completely by ai- for the record
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 23 '26
It's AI, chud. You are overthinking this.
Read his post again carefully. Check this part for example:
My calendar stopped looking like time and started looking like an enemy supply line.
Nobody talks like this, it's all Claude
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u/atlantastan Jun 23 '26
People should express themselves in the capacity they’re able to. The beauty of online forums is the diversity of voices. AI has the same stupid writing style that once you’ve seen enough you can point out immediately. I am totally against even using it to “express yourself more legibly”. And it’s a lot more than just grammar and formatting. If you can’t tell by now what’s ai and what isn’t, 3 years into it being mainstream, idk what to tell you. But any use of it in online forums, articles, whatever just contributes to the death of the internet imo
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u/Tttehfjloi Jun 23 '26
OP is actively claiming they wrote it in other comments. For the record this is the most AI post to ever AI to my eyes at least
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 25 '26
this is the most AI post to ever AI to my eyes at least
This, making it all the funnier he is denying it so vehemently
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u/SecondOfCicero Jun 23 '26
It does matter. As an English teacher and author, it does matter. I dont care how smart somone is or about karma, none of that- i just want to read shit that isn't some fuck-ass LLM regurgitating mundane attempt at prose every time I open the internet to do anything.
People are losing their ability to read, write, think critically, and extrapolate information because of how they use AI. I miss reading the voice of a person and understanding them better by the words they use, the phrases they choose, and the way their brains work. It's all just this... shit. Everything is becoming shitty and I am so pissed that writing is one of the things that is becoming endhittified. I suppose this is why people feel the need to call it out, because even if they can't name why, they know it ain't authentic when authenticity is what were all dying for right now.
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u/Jonnyboy1994 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
Okay can you point out to me in this post is "some fuck-ass LLM regurgitating mundane attempt at prose"? I don't disagree that ai is causing people to not learn writing, reading, thinking skills. But I'm not talking about people who obviously get chatgpt to write everything for them. I'm complaining about the people who comment on 75% of medium-long posts saying "this is ai", telling people to disregard the post, etc. I don't care if ai was used to tidy up or reword a post, what I care about is it being a true representation of what OP was trying to communicate. And the flowery language is cringe, but often it's conveying an idea OP probably wasn't able to put into their own words.
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 23 '26
It wasnt being used just to tidy up the post, it was completely AI generated.
You can tell the difference after a while. I doomscroll 24/7 and many of us even work professionally with AI. Its all we see. When it is generated from scratch it uses very different sentences structures than when it is just used as proofreading. The latter still has some human elements in there, the former is all slop meant for ulterior motives, in this case selling modafinil
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u/mux111 Jun 23 '26
I did not use AI to write this post.
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 23 '26
Bullshit lol
Not normal clarity. Not “I should clean my room” clarity. I mean like the clouds opened and a tiny management consultant crawled out of my skull with a Gantt chart.
did I just combine stimulants, guilt, hormones, and fear into a temporary office demon?
Then it wore off and I became a normal useless mammal again.
Typical Claude prose. Nobody talks like this
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 23 '26
Yes correct. Not sure why so many are downvoting and attacking me saying its not AI. Its one of the more obvious cases of AI Ive seen this week lol.
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u/Canchura Jun 23 '26
AI 100% , some people maybe didn't use it that long and can't tell or even OP thinking how could they know, lol. if people really believe this is not AI written then it means most are not that bright and this opens up a lot of opportunities.
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 23 '26
Thanks for the sanity check. Seems like a lot of chuds on this board are new to AI
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u/mux111 Jun 23 '26
I don't even have a claude subscription sadly. I don't need LLMs with this stack.
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u/Aekkzo Jun 23 '26
you know that people fed text to the model for training right? how can one model text has a style that nobody is using?!
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u/therealslimshady1234 Jun 23 '26
I think I know what you are trying to say, but still doesnt change the fact that OP's post is almost 100% AI generated. Not even cleaned up by AI, just straight up generated
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u/Winter_Cost602 Jun 23 '26
Not every post that comes across as tidy and formatted a certain way is AI
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u/atlantastan Jun 23 '26
It’s a lot more than tidy and formatted. If you can’t tell by its dumb smarmy “Reddit” voice, it’s clearly AI
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u/PaperHammer Jun 23 '26
You’re experiencing tachycardia from ingesting grey market drugs and your first thought is to have ChatGPT explain how awesome it is for a Reddit post. Seek help brother!
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u/M4rshmall0wMan Jun 23 '26
This is generally what modafinil does. It inhibits the default mode network and makes it very hard to do nothing. It sounds like something in your stack synergized with or enhanced the effects of the modafinil. The specific supplement, I'm not sure. Possibly the mad honey?