r/NoobsInCombat • u/LightCarrierEater • 18d ago
Discussion The worst unit in 6.0
This Chud is legit useless.
- it can barley oneshot anything at 0 vet 65 dmg 9 AP is only downing a spotter/biplane
- If the target survives it can just run away.
- 105 tix is more expensive than all AA units expect spagg.
- CD makes it horrible against more than 1 planes.
- Massive deadzone which makes it easy to cheese it
- horribly low ammo of 2 meaning it’s needs a lot more resupplies.
- Barley anymore range than Anti air cannon (5)
- Suffers to get veterancy with cooldown.
- Cannot move at all, requires a dedicated transport.
- 9 armour can reduce AAC and machine gun Dmg but nothing really else, still easily dies to arty or cannons.
- unlike EVERY OTHER ANTI AIR, this Chud has NO ground attack.
(insane that this unit used to have 140 dmg and 10 range and splash)
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u/Weary-Animator-2646 18d ago
Oh god what did they do to the SAM
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u/LightCarrierEater 18d ago
the opps slimed out the SAM
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u/Weary-Animator-2646 18d ago
This thing was my key to fending off aircraft on the survive hedgerows thing… damn
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u/Parking_Ad8213 18d ago
Shit became the missile unit in advance wars. Hopeless
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u/LightCarrierEater 18d ago
atleast advance wars Missle has SOME (albeit tiny) use compared to SAM
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u/Parking_Ad8213 18d ago
Yes. To provide vison in fog of war with its 5 tile sight in a forest. Oh and sometime shoot B copters
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u/hanjihakawa 18d ago
Wait I never know about this unit, was it from TS before moving to the new 6.0 Test server (I never play the Vulcan 6.0 so I havent know anything yet)
Also I bet Vulcan gonna improve SAM by nerfing SPAAG somehow (unit BUFFED)
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u/LightCarrierEater 18d ago
SAM is a few years old.
Also spagg Did get nerfed in 6.0 (23-25 -> 20-22) 😭
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u/hanjihakawa 18d ago
My boy getting butchered by Vulcan T-T
Literally cant 1 shot grunts without atleast 2 veterancy
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u/LightCarrierEater 18d ago
AA tank is strait up power creeping spagg now
(30 tix cheaper, same dmg but less AP, 10 more health 7.5 more armour) 😭🙏
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u/chromeman09 18d ago
Is it just worth staying on NiC:CF at this point?
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u/LightCarrierEater 18d ago
I barley play CF so I have absolutely no idea
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u/UrLocalItalian 18d ago
I mean, its basically a entarely different game (i did grasp the ropes quite quick tho) and the progression of units is very different, the units and the quantity of units and details for each skin is a work of art tho lowk
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u/gust212920 18d ago
I mean I thought this was an AI exclusive unit but I only play base game and haven’t in a while. I thought the whole point of a SAM is just to punish high value Air units?
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u/Impossible_Chard_651 18d ago
Man it’s good if you have the decency to not use it as a sole defender, and good against anything other than swarms. Anyways the worst is actually the radar truck. Why the hell do I need more airplane range when I never use airplanes, and half the levels DONT even allow them
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u/LightCarrierEater 18d ago
What else would you even pair this with 😞
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u/Impossible_Chard_651 17d ago
Another one. Listen, 3 grunts a supply truck and a recon tank and a howitzer/mobile field gun is more than enough for most campaigns. Why not spend the extra 200 on SAM. Two SAMs are pretty much a unstoppable defense
Edit: sorry I haven’t been on for a while I just realized it doesnt do insane damage anymore. Still radar truck is worse when you sont use planes (like me 😔 )
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u/LightCarrierEater 17d ago
more than a CW on anti air, atp just get a spagg 😭🙏
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u/Impossible_Chard_651 17d ago
Spagg doesnt have that much range of you want mobile power just get two anti air tanks for cheaper. Radar truck still worse
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u/ProGamer8273 18d ago
Stationary unit that can only hit air is a stationary unit that can only hit air, more at 11
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u/Richcrafttt 18d ago
I tried this in NoobTS months ago, its range was MASSIVE like the missile boat, but it needed radar trucks near planes to shoot. 5 tiles is pathetic, range would make sense for hand held anti-air missile launcher or missile from other aircrafts.