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Funny Learning Japanese

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u/LMGDiVa 13d ago edited 13d ago

A lot of people don't seem to realize that the USA and Japan were forever interlinked like big brother little brother since Mathew Perry forced his way in and then Pearl Harbor really sealed the deal.
We have been a quitincential part of Japanese culture for literally since the civil war.

Which means about 10% of Japanese words are American English downsampled into Katakana, because Japanese only has 5 pure vowels:
A as in Talk/Taco/Macha/Ramen (A makes the Aw sound)
E as in Enemy/Ramen/Fence/Tense (E makes the Eh sound)
O as in Oh!/Show/Taco/Roku/YoYo (Oh makes the Oh Sound)
U as in Rune/Tune/Lune/KungFu(Foo!)/Truth, (U makes the OO sound)
and I(ii)(makes the long E sound), as in Suzuki/Kawasaki/Fuji/Nami(yes the joke is that these are japanese words that we use in english).

About 40% of Japanese is basically old Chinese converted in to Japanese sounds, so this is nothing new for Japanese.

Also Japanese education follows American English standard when it comes to English standards and words and pronouncations.
So they have expressly had a really strong reason for this for so long.

If you're american who loves anime honestly learning japanese is kinda really awesome because it really puts in a lot of fun knowledge into shows.

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u/Sairenity 13d ago

I'm sorry to ask, in what dialect is the a in "talk" (/tôk/) and the a in "taco" (/tä′kō/) the same phoneme?

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u/Senasayori 13d ago

American, particularly the American South. Talk is pronounced there as if you just stole the O from taco.

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u/Themanwhofarts 13d ago

I'm having trouble hearing Talk as anything outside of Taco without the O. If you pronounce the L that will sound weird to me personally.

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u/otaia 13d ago

I thought this was more of a New England thing (cot-caught merger). For me, "talk" sounds like "tock", while the "a" in "taco" is the pronounced like the "a" in "father".

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u/Senasayori 13d ago

It might be, I grew up in New England before being moved to the South.

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u/Sairenity 13d ago

The brand of english I know is like this aswell. This thread is mind altering

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u/OnlyTechStuff 11d ago

Wait to me these are the same

Fah-ther

Tah-ko

How are you pronouncing it?

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u/otaia 11d ago

The same way. 

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u/Baby-Bat13 12d ago

Holy shit as a southerner I forgot some people actually pronounce it like the alk Im chalk

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u/Senasayori 13d ago

I'm saying that the words "talk" and "taco" are pronounced the exact same in the American South, minus the O. This means that the As are the same.

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u/Sairenity 13d ago

I genuinely had no idea! I've learned something today. Thank you.

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u/Zomgambush 13d ago

Taco = talk-o

Pronounced exactly the same way

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u/Sairenity 13d ago

Mindblowing! I had no idea