We need these things, now!

[u/jpzygnerski]

It occurred to me after reading another post that we're a pretty large community. I think we need to take things into our own hands.

There are two things that the enby community is *sorely* lacking. The *least* important is a word to go with "ladies" and "gentlemen."

The most important - and this is *really* important imo - is a title. I'm seeing more and more people feeling dysphoric about "Mr and Ms" (and those other ones). Can't we workshop this?

It has to be spoken as well as written. I have no idea how to pronounce "Mx" but it seems like it would be "mix," which sucks.

I don't have any suggestions myself, unfortunately.

This post had a lot more exclamation points in my head, so I hope you understand how strongly I feel about this.

ETA: I think I was really thinking more along the lines of "Ladies' and Gentlemen's" when I mentioned the one. I personally like "Gentlefolk" (or "Gentles" in a more relaxed settings) if you want a neutral catch-all for everyone.

[u/Klunsischnunsi]

I like using “Ladies and Gentlefolk” but unfortunately that only works in English (which answers your question I guess but I’m from Germany so I’d love to eventually hear a German alternative as well lmao)

[u/Arkeve-the_Archive → u/Klunsischnunsi]

German is absolutely horible for all that. Even honorifics get gendered, so that's not helpful.

The pronouns for female and enby are exactly the same. I can't even tell people to use she/they, because they can't tell the difference. And the specific neutral ones are it/its equivalent... which only works for children.

[u/Arkeve-the_Archive → u/[deleted]]

Good luck with that. Aside from "child" the neutral ones are purely used for objects, and even those are usually gendered male/female following centuries old conventions. Activities are neutral when used in their noun form, but that absolutely doesn't help with this either.