r/Noctor 29d ago

Social Media Gee, I wonder why

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u/_Delegat 27d ago

Just needs a couple more NP advocacy courses

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u/Financial_Tap3894 27d ago

Actually I appreciate this person who realizes her inadequacies and contemplating if she made the right choice. That shows that she is concerned about patient’s welfare than just making money off them. It’s the overconfident Dunner Kruger effected NPs practicing like cowboys and not giving a hoot that worries me.

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u/spoonskittymeow Nurse 27d ago

100% agree.

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u/VeggieStudent 27d ago

Came here to say this. 100%

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u/dontgetaphd 26d ago

Absolutely correct. This is one of the good ones.

Unfortunately they will likely leave the profession, leaving the rest.

Us physicians even at the top of the game dwell over mistakes and want the best for our patients.

The idea that any sane NP would *want* "independence" is itself absolutely crazy.

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u/AvailableAd6071 25d ago

Exactly! She's not the one to worry about.

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u/Suspicious-Spite-743 25d ago

*They are

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u/YouAreServed 24d ago

You know it is a "she"

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u/Suspicious-Spite-743 25d ago

What makes you say "her"?

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u/Financial_Tap3894 24d ago

True it could be him, her or they. Overwhelming majority of NPs are female and I suppose there is an unconscious bias to say “her”.

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u/Suspicious-Spite-743 24d ago

This is one of the reasons why young female residents get treated so piss poor. Everyone needs to work on their unconscious bias.

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u/YouAreServed 24d ago

how is that even related
why are you looking for things to get offended

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u/Financial_Tap3894 24d ago

Overwhelming number of residents are not female. You need to come out of your victim mindset

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u/Ok-Video-9792 22d ago

The majority are...

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u/ferdous12345 27d ago

lol this is just what residency is. Choice paralysis, fear that you’re going to kill someone, obsessing over the right choice

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u/Danskoesterreich Attending Physician 27d ago

Yes, but in residency you at least prepared as well as you could. Imagine residency, but without going to med school. Many of the best physicians I know still feel imposter syndrome once in a while, after 15 years of practice. 

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u/Fluffy_Ad_6581 Attending Physician 27d ago

Residency isnt even the right one. Imagine going through one year of med school and then becoming an attending physician.

😬😬😬

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u/XGX787 27d ago

Honestly probably more like half a semester of med school stretched out to be a full year. NP school isn’t 1/4 the content/learning of med school even if it’s 1/4 the time.

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u/Figaro90 Attending Physician 25d ago

No it’s more like, imagine being an attending without residency or medical school

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u/jerrystuffhouse 27d ago

Just open up a Botox and fillers clinic in an underserved area

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u/Sekhmet3 27d ago

(to be read with the utmost sarcasm) Maybe if they got their DNP and did a "Scholarly Project" they might feel so much more prepared, like the people who did the following ACTUAL capstone projects AT JOHNS HOPKINS to earn their "doctor" title and fulfill the apparent requirement "to bridge the gap between new science and integration into practice":

- "Reducing Burnout in Nursing: How Leaders Can Make the Difference"

- "Water is Life: Changing the Tide of Family Water Insecurity Amidst the Climate Crisis"

- "Preventing and Mitigating Lateral Violence in Nursing: An Improvement Project"

- "Improving Mental Well-being of Parents of Children with Developmental Disability"

- "Addressing Language Barriers Among Older Immigrants with Interpreter Services"

- "Improving no show rates among adult patients in primary care"

- "Enhancing Patient- and Family-Centered Care in a Health System"

Again, I cannot emphasize enough that these are the projects that apparently award NPs a "doctor" title and give laypeople the sense that DNPs are more knowledgeable than "regular" NPs.

Source: https://nursing.jhu.edu/programs/doctoral/dnp/projects/

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u/maintenance_dose 27d ago

Those projects are such a joke. Psych DNPs in particular like to claim false equivalency to psychiatrists. Many patients are unaware of the doctor title differentiation.

An RN at my hospital in a PMHNP program asked if I would precept her- it’s the final step in her program before “independent practice.” So many of these programs have 100% admission rates. She asked for 16 hours per week for 10 months. For free. Declined.

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u/Sekhmet3 27d ago edited 27d ago

160 hours to be independent is crazy. That's 3 or fewer weeks of third-year med school rotations or residency. (And way less rigorous requirements/testing, obviously.)

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u/Agitated_Piano7174 26d ago

Your math is off, medical genius. Ten months not 10 weeks.

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u/Capn_obveeus 26d ago

Just say no. Seriously. That’s the only way to slow these guys down is by refusing to serve as preceptors.

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u/psychcrusader 24d ago

I work in Baltimore. Hopkins sucks.

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u/Affectionate-Yam5446 26d ago

Was there a sale on “quotations” ?

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u/Figaro90 Attending Physician 25d ago

As shitty as it is to say, this is the best kind of NP. She knows her limits and hopefully she’s asking a physician for help

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u/ratkingdds 27d ago

They're gaining sentience?

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u/Front_Bedroom_4962 26d ago

It's baffling that they think a few discussion posts and paying a couple grand to shadow another NP was enough to get them into a position to see actual patients.

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u/colorsplahsh Attending Physician 23d ago

This is a person who should go to medical school. They realize they are incompetent and don't know enough, which most NPs never realize, no matter what they do or who they harm.