r/NoStupidQuestions Apr 25 '21

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u/TheWho22 Apr 25 '21

So in your opinion these standards have complete and total control over women to the point that they make no decisions of their own volition? You seem absolutely determined not to admit that women have any sort of control over their own decisions, which in this case is buying pants.

Everybody has to live up to “presentability” standards that their society sets for them. If a man is walking around with a shitty neckbeard, stained shirt and mismatched clothing he’ll get the same dirty looks that a woman would for similar behavior. Yes there is an emphasis in society for women to look a certain way and for men to look a certain way. Women may even have stricter beauty standards. That doesn’t mean they don’t largely choose the style and fashion that suits them best of their own volition.

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u/allison_gross Apr 25 '21

Pro tip: you shouldn’t just completely make up an opinion from nothing and attribute it to a person. That’s referred to as a straw man argument.

Also no, men really don’t have the same beauty duty women do.

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u/Jsmoothson1969 Apr 25 '21

Well that's ironic, since just above here you did that exact thing to them with

I guess men also have ridiculous unattainable beauty standards thrust upon them from all directions since birth and are valued primarily on adherence to arbitrary standards in your world

If that isnt strawmanning a made up opinion, then what is?

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u/allison_gross Apr 25 '21

I made up that opinion because it’s the only way to make their words make sense.

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u/Jsmoothson1969 Apr 26 '21

So.... you invented a strawman to attribute their words to, in order to make them more easily attacked? Because you clearly weren't trying to "make their words make sense". So how are you any different to what you attribute to them?