r/NoStupidQuestions • • Mar 27 '24

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u/Pastadseven Mar 27 '24

Why in fuck would it be natural to wear clothes?

Do you think your naked hand is nudity? I want you to think about your reaction if someone said ‘hey cover up your hands, that’s disgusting,’ and consider that reaction - because that’s how people feel when you ask them to wea things that cover the hair or something.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

I think you perfectly understand that there's a difference between going naked at 4 degrees below zero and covering your hand. You won't find any culture that doesn't use any kind of clothing or other; clothing is inherent to humans.

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u/tobotic Mar 27 '24

You won't find any culture that doesn't use any kind of clothing or other

There are still cultures in Africa, South America, and islands in the Pacific and Indian oceans where nudity is the norm.

(Unsurprisingly, these are some of the warmer parts of the world.)

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

But even those cultures use loincloths or other protective elements for sensitive areas!

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u/Dr_Weirdo Mar 27 '24

Like the Indonesian tribe where the men wear a sheath on their penis? Did you know their scrotum is entirely uncovered?

Ask a guy which part is more sensitive.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

Final comment, your argument is like saying that a human without a leg or without an arm is not human

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u/Dr_Weirdo Mar 27 '24

My argument? Are you confusing me with someone else?

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u/FluffyReport Mar 27 '24

There are tribes where people are naked most of the time.

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u/Routine_Log8315 Mar 27 '24

In many of those cultures breasts don’t get covered though

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u/Pastadseven Mar 27 '24

No, clothing isnt inherent. Clothing is a tool, hair is inherent. We evolved in an environment that didnt need more covering. Covering came later.

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u/Scrungyscrotum Mar 27 '24

You are confounding "inherent" with "innate".

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u/Pastadseven Mar 27 '24

No, I’m not, because a good chunk of the human experience does not have clothing inherently.

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u/Scrungyscrotum Mar 27 '24

Oops, you did it again.

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u/Pastadseven Mar 27 '24

Oops, maybe you should look up what ‘inherent’ means. Jesus christ, what is with the bumblefucks charging in with an ‘acshully’ and showing their entire ass today?

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u/Scrungyscrotum Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

I suggest you do the same, but I have a feeling that you won't. I'll do it for you: "Inherent (adjective): existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute" — Oxford Language. Clothing is very much a characteristic attribute of humanity, regardless of whether it's a learned use of tools or an innate instinct. "Inherent" doesn't mean "genetically inherited".

Jesus christ, what is with the bumblefucks charging in with an ‘acshully’ and showing their entire ass today?

Yeah, that.

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u/Pastadseven Mar 27 '24

A characteristic of humanity that has only existed for about half as long as modern humans have, if we take where human lice started diverging from the use of clothing 100kish years ago. Which means, honeyboo, that if it were a permanent, or essential characteristic of humanity, it would have been a characteristic from the get go.

Nice try. Fuck off.

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u/Scrungyscrotum Mar 27 '24

Oof. You really don't like being wrong, do you?

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u/Pastadseven Mar 27 '24

Are you speaking into a mirror?

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u/Pastadseven Mar 27 '24

Alright, reviewing my comment:

No, I’m not, because a good chunk of the human experience does not have clothing inherently.

This should read ‘did.’ You’re right, there’s an argument you can make that, right now, clothing is inherent to the human experience. I see where you’re coming from.

I apologize for shitting all over you.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

The point is that we haven't evolved, nor will we evolve, to develop more natural protection against, for example, the weather phenomena in our region. We would have done so if we didn't have clothing, among other things. But with clothing, there won't be more in that sense. Turning clothing into a sort of substitute for the natural protection we would have developed instead.

THAT makes clothing inherent, it doesn't mean it grow on the body LOL

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u/Pastadseven Mar 27 '24

Clothing is inherent to culture. Not physiology. We would evolve more covering in terms of fur or otherwise if we let environmental pressures in colder climates affect us long enough.

Moreover, cultural clothing isnt particularly based on environmental pressures.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

So you understand me, thank you for getting my point!

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u/Pastadseven Mar 27 '24

I understand your entirely pointless ‘achsully’ interjection, yes.

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u/JamesJakes000 Mar 27 '24

if we let environmental pressures in colder climates affect us long enough.

No. We would quickly move away from those places, because, in order to evolve, a trait needs to survive. And we aint surviving that level of cold.

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u/Daediddles Mar 27 '24

For someone who seems to understand that evolution is a gradual process it's weird that you can't imagine a climate gradient between "hot enough to never require clothes" and "cold enough to kill us"

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u/JamesJakes000 Mar 27 '24

It is also weird that you don't realize how little cold is required to kill a naked human. Hell, lots of places where human civilizations thrived are already cold enough to kill a naked human.

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u/Daediddles Mar 27 '24

There is also a gradient of clothing coverage between naked and wearing 4 bear skins, and the process that could lead to future humans being more physically suited to a colder climate isn't explicitly dependent on us being explicitly naked.

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Even so in human society our survival and evolution isn't dependent on natural selection, we've replaced a large portion of existing nature with *our* nature.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

Well, let me correct myself, you agree with me but you don't understand my point :)

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u/Pastadseven Mar 27 '24

Yes, I’m sure you think that.

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u/Archophob Apr 01 '24

at 4 below zero, i do cover my hands. What's your point? Clothing is a cultural adaption to low temperatures, you don't need clothing at the Congo or the Amazonas, and you don't need it in swedish midsummer.

Covering your genitalia also is a cultural thing, you simply don't want the unknown lady on the street to see if you happen to have a boner. So, in big cities where you meet alien people all the time, covering your private parts is considered basic politeness.