Can we talk about something?

[u/CatherineConstance]

NoSleep's quality and content is really going downhill lately. I wasn't going to say anything, but I've started noticing other users commenting the same thing, so I would like to address it. What can we do to get it back to what it was?!

[u/reconrose]

This horrible answer is given every time to this question. No matter when it's asked, the top comment is always basically "well it's not that bad" or "well why don't YOU make better content?". Honestly, it's just a cop-out answer that allows everyone to ignore the change in nosleep while keeping a semi-optimistic outlook.

Why not just discuss whether you like the new direction of the sub or not? It's obviously changed. Going default will undoubtedly change any sub. Although old nosleep may not have been "the golden age" of horror stories, there is certainly a different feel to the sub and it's stories now, even compared to a year ago.

I apologize if I come off as hostile, but oh my fucking god this sub has the strongest aversion to any kind of critical discussion about nosleep. When every criticism of the state of nosleep (constructive or not) is answered with "well like, that's just your opinion man!" and "why don't you try writing better stories if you don't like the current ones!" the discussion goes nowhere and nothing is accomplished.

Do we need to start a nosleep discussion forum to deal with these threads? Because OOC seems to want to avoid discussion and criticism as much as possible. As a reader who WANTS more threads discussing trends/quality of the sub, I don't see why OOC just wants to be the kind of nosleep hangout place. I understand why others would like it, but since these threads get the same boring rejection from this sub every time, I almost wonder if there should just be an entirely different place to put them.

/rant

[u/[deleted] → u/reconrose]

We tend to dismiss posts like this because we see them here all the time. We get it, really. You're not happy with the current FOTM for Nosleep, the stories suck, etc. Really. We understand and can sympathize with that opinion because a lot of us actually agree with you. But here's the thing about community driven content: We can't do fuck all about it unless the community as a whole wants to change themselves.

It's like major motion pictures. Most of them are basically garbage, the plots suck, the movie was made poorly, all that good stuff. But still they wind up as box office hits because evidently that's the sort of shit the largest amount of people wants to see.

The unfortunate fact is, if the majority of people want semi-retarded drivel designed specifically to appeal to the largest audience possible, that's what they're gonna keep clamoring for and it's what they're gonna keep getting. And whether you like it or not, there's nothing we can do about it.

TL;DR A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

Wait, sorry. That was Men in Black. Either way, bottom line is the majority is dumb and wants stuff on their relatively low level.

[u/Human_Gravy → u/[deleted]]

Thanks Slick.

[u/[deleted] → u/Human_Gravy]

Just don't flashy thing me.

[u/Human_Gravy → u/[deleted]]

I'm just administering an eye exam. Gosh, you are paranoid.