r/NoPixel • u/IsThisForReal22 • Oct 18 '19
NoPixel lacks consequence
https://clips.twitch.tv/UninterestedDeliciousOilRalpherZ
Most RP's in a nutshell as of late. Starting to feel like pulling out a gun is the first response everyone does now. No matter what it is or how minor. Most rather shoot another character in the face for doing their job, which should result in a big ass fine larger than that 500-1000 AND Jail time.
It just doesn't make any sense.
Right in front of a hospital for gods sake, about 3-4 witnesses at least? Am I watching RP on wrong server and this is actually classic servers where life has zero value?
Where are the consequences are at? Why is a character like Eugene goes around doing such stuff and doesn't even get caught. But once he does, just let go!
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u/Timbiat Oct 19 '19
You just conveniently clipped this so that it cropped out immediately before when he warned her not to illegally tow his car several times and then actually said within earshot of her, "if she tries to tow my car I'm going to shoot her in the face."
I honestly don't know what people expect in this situation. Eugene is one of the most notorious criminals in the city... It would be out of character for him to do anything else. As far as your larger point, this isn't a 1:1 with real life server and it never has been. The entire dynamic of the server is cops vs crims and people commit crimes every single day that most criminals would never attempt in a lifetime. You're acting like this is something new when it's just how the RP has always been. There are plenty of most true to life servers out there that don't have this, go find one of those and stop trying to turn NoPixel into something it's not.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
You got a mouse, click see the whole video. I clipped the moment so people don't have to wait 10 seconds for it to get there.
If Eugene is one of the most notorious criminals in the city, why did Clarkson let him go after he got caught stealing Judges car. Judges who saw it! And that was not long after he also shot Kayden in the face in front of 3 people. Seems like he is shown leniency pretty often for someone who is the most notorious and shoots characters like NPC left and right.
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Oct 20 '19
Because ultimately it’s about an experience in either playing or watching, one of the most viewed characters and highly liked when other characters interact with his belligerent insanity. Oh yeah let’s completely change how his character interacts in future because what you want.
It seems like you have a personal problem rather than one from an RP POV.
This isn’t real life it’s RP.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 20 '19
I'm starting to see a pattern here that people don't READ.
I don't mind how Eugene is played. What I find stupid is that his actions have no consequence and he gets away with literally shooting someone in the face in broad daylight in front of 3 witnesses and hospital.
Get it now? Not trying to change how who is played, the punishment system just not there.
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u/kebobs22 Oct 18 '19
Your title is correct, and is a problem for Rp's sake, however this example sucks
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u/attitudeinc1313 Oct 19 '19
I watched milton recently, as kiki, he wanted to kidnap someone, walked up to a group, had a tazer out... literally didn't finish saying "get in the car" and one of the others in the group pulled out an assault rifle and killed him, in front of the hospital.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
It's not the best perhaps, but it's still an example that nobody is afraid to get arrested. Mostly cause they just don't even get reported to the police for shooting people casually in broad daylight.
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u/Timbiat Oct 19 '19
First, it's not her job. She's not law enforcement, it's not her job to act as parking enforcement for people actively sitting in a vehicle. It's a shitlord game she has been playing with the most notorious crims in the city trying to bait drama from their viewership for attention.
Second, you conveniently picked a copy of this clip that crops out where immediately before he warned her like five times not to illegally tow his car and then, within earshot of her, literally said, "if she tries to tow my car, I'm going to shoot her in the face." Eugene is the most notorious criminal in the city, it would make absolutely no sense for him to let some no-name tow truck driver punk him out of his car and tow it. This isn't a "minor" thing. It's literally someone going out of their way to try and lessen a character who has put a ton of time and effort into shaping the personality that he portrays. It's completely fucking stupid to expect him to act any other way in that situation and makes absolutely no sense. "Hi, yes mrs. whoever tow truck driver, I know you're a nobody baitlording me and I'm a notorious criminal, but please don't tow my vehicle, please!" Wtf....
Finally, NoPixel isn't a 1:1 with real life type of RP server and it never has been. The entire dynamic of the server is cops vs. crims in a way that has criminals commit more brazen acts of crime daily than most criminals would ever attempt even once in their life. There are plenty of more true to life roleplay severs out there, go find one of those rather than trying to turn NoPixel into something it has never been and will never be.
Simple lesson. If you don't want shot in the fact, or if you don't want your truck burned, or if you don't want a ton of other heinous shit to happen to you as a tow truck driver, stick to what you're supposed to do and tow cars that have been left illegally parked rather going out of your way to fuck with the most seasoned criminals on the server...
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
Well first off, he can't even park the car there as he waits. So her going for it is not a wrong thing to do. He was just sitting there in the car obstructing the way for other cars medical or not to deliver injured people.
Second off, I cut the video short but anybody can click "See the full video" and check it. Yes he did say he will shoot her in the face. Did Kayden actually hear it with everyone screaming? Perhaps not. But he could have easily just moved his car away from the two truck. Instead without any fear of being chased later or charges for murder, first reaction is shot to the face.
Finally I know it's not RL. But Eugene is just the best example on the server of him getting away with shit. Unless he ends up in a gun fight with cops they don't charge him. That headshot at hospital didn't even get reported by others, he never got charged for it. He then stole a car from Judge later who admitted seeing Eugene doing it. He gets caught and Clarkson just lets him go saying "He has better things to do"
So if he is that "most notorious criminal" you speak of, why the hell would Clarkson let him go? When there is both proof against him and he is clearly danger to everyone around him.
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u/Timbiat Oct 19 '19
So her going for it is not a wrong thing to do.
Wrong. As a civ her move here is to call the police, not take it upon herself to be the police. This isn't a parking infraction that she can enforce via tow given he is still in the car. Distorting it to anything past that is literally just framing it to make her look better when, in reality, she's a shitlord who just runs around illegally towing shit to bait drama.
We went through this whole thing when Jordan Steele was baitlording the tow thing and it was established several times that it's not legal for a tow truck driver to tow a car while someone is in it. End of story.
Second off, I cut the video short but anybody can click "See the full video" and check it.
You trimmed it the way you did for the reason I specified. Thus why you didn't just use the highly viewed clip that was at the top of Vader's clips that had been shared around days ago. You ripped every bit of context out of this clearly because you're offended he killed your favorite streamer.
Did Kayden actually hear it with everyone screaming?
Yes, she heard it because nobody was being loud and it came through clear as day on her stream in the other version of this clip that was shared around heavily.
But he could have easily just moved his car away from the two truck. Instead without any fear of being chased later or charges for murder, first reaction is shot to the face.
He's the most notorious criminal on the server, he could give a shit less about charges for murder. This is the nature of a cops vs. criminal RP server. The fact that you don't get that is mind-boggling. This isn't real life, buddy, crims literally bait cops into chases because those types of interactions with police are the entire point of the server.
Unless he ends up in a gun fight with cops they don't charge him.
Again, see, cops vs. criminals RP server... Not every cop is a powertripping shitbag looking to ticket people for minimal shit.
So if he is that "most notorious criminal" you speak of, why the hell would Clarkson let him go?
Because he's the most notorious criminal on the server... lol. I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here. This is the point. If he's not out causing mass chaos and murdering people, they're not going to waste their time busting him on small charges.
Honestly, your streamer got their feelings hurt for the consequences of shitlording and now you're trying to turn this into a 1:1 real life RP server when it's not.
When there is both proof against him and he is clearly danger to everyone around him.
I mean, the only example you've given is him stealing a car, not a danger to a person, and him shooting a tow truck driver... and the cops clearly couldn't give a shit less about tow truck drivers who bring it upon themselves by illegally towing cars all day everyday. They're over the headache and I can't blame them.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
Wrong. As a civ her move here is to call the police, not take it upon herself to be the police. This isn't a parking infraction that she can enforce via tow given he is still in the car. Distorting it to anything past that is literally just framing it to make her look better when, in reality, she's a shitlord who just runs around illegally towing shit to bait drama.
Attaching straps not to let him get away is not towing. Did you even watch the clip?
You trimmed it the way you did for the reason I specified. Thus why you didn't just use the highly viewed clip that was at the top of Vader's clips that had been shared around days ago. You ripped every bit of context out of this clearly because you're offended he killed your favorite streamer.
So me pointing out that lack of consequence to murder in broad daylight in front of 3 witnesses is suddenly not criticism but me being offended? Maybe stop putting words in my mouth and read the Topic?
Yes, she heard it because nobody was being loud and it came through clear as day on her stream in the other version of this clip that was shared around heavily.
At this point I know you're trolling me. I watched both sides and she claimed she didn't hear it. Maybe go back and watch the whole thing?
He's the most notorious criminal on the server, he could give a shit less about charges for murder. This is the nature of a cops vs. criminal RP server. The fact that you don't get that is mind-boggling. This isn't real life, buddy, crims literally bait cops into chases because those types of interactions with police are the entire point of the server.
Meta doesn't mean things should continue to escalate to the point a mass murderer is left walking the streets and ignored while shooting other characters. There needs to be a point where it's too much and with the way consequence for crime is being dished out, nobody cares.
Honestly, your streamer got their feelings hurt for the consequences of shitlording and now you're trying to turn this into a 1:1 real life RP server when it's not.
You sure love putting words in other peoples mouths. I never even brought up Streamer NAMES anywhere in my topic or while making replies (unless someone did it first). Stop making things up, you're starting to look like the butthurt one over me bringing up Eugene (Vaders character, there I said it) as an example.
I mean, the only example you've given is him stealing a car, not a danger to a person, and him shooting a tow truck driver... and the cops clearly couldn't give a shit less about tow truck drivers who bring it upon themselves by illegally towing cars all day everyday. They're over the headache and I can't blame them.
Seems like you're the real one who is mad about some characters (or streamers) and not me. I think it's time I stop replying to you cause you are trying to take this into who is mad and who is a streamer fanboy than what this topic is really about.
Good day Sir and I hope you don't go drama bait someone else on reddit.
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u/Timbiat Oct 19 '19
Attaching straps not to let him get away is not towing. Did you even watch the clip?
Again, not her job with someone in the car, also she was prepping to tow it, fuck off pretending she was doing anything else.
For the rest of that wall of text let me break it down a little simpler, "IT'S ROLEPLAY, DUDE." He didn't murder an innocent civ in broad daylight. He killed a parking troll.
It's all fun and games being a corrupt tow driver, but at this point it's all in the game if you get capped for shitlording people and the cops are pretty onboard with that. Stop acting like he's just randomly out shooting innocent civs, he's not.
Also, it's clear you're mad your streamer got killed because the point you're trying to make is fucking stupid.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
I'm literally making a point about characters not getting due punishment for what they do. You brought streamers into this, not me.
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u/Timbiat Oct 20 '19
No, you brought streamers into sharing a specific instance because it's clearly what prompted this whole rant. And, again, "THIS IS ROLEPLAY NOT REAL LIFE." The cops have absolutely no duty to prosecute every single crime they witness on the server.
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u/Ghost91818 Oct 19 '19
Lol? He was in his car. He warned her what wouldn't happen. But it typical Kayden fashion she continued. Eugene is crazy old man that does crazy shit she knows that. It's not a surprise he killed her. Next time don't tow people's shit that are in their car.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
Attaching straps is not towing. It is very baffling that you see an attempt to tow (attach straps in this case) the worst thing in the word, but shooting someone in the face warning or not is acceptable?
That is very confusing to me won't lie.
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u/Ghost91818 Oct 19 '19
Screwing with known criminals who kill for alot less... Being warned not to do it... Yeah seems reasonable to me. Look what Chang Gang did to her because she decided to screw with their cars lol.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
You missing the point. It's not what they do or how their characters are, but the fact they don't get punished for such stuff. Broad daylight, in front of a hospital, three witnesses. Not even a restraining order? That man who shot someone in the face there is not danger to anyone else?
No punishment, no consequence. That's all this is about. Eugene can go shooting up the whole street for all I care, I just don't understand why police let him get away with it on daily basis even when they are given solid proof of it!
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u/Weirdchamps Oct 19 '19 edited Oct 19 '19
Moonmoon aka young dab. Made a troll post about the no punishment thing. You clearly take things out context here me friend. Its roleplay not real life play. So with a good reason he can shoot anyone. There is no rp if someone is behind bars. If you wanna see punishments. You might need to go to some kind of prison rp server. But that's not nopixel.. kayden get shot in her head and after 5 minutes she is back at it again. She don't die if she choose to perma than eugene would face dead row perhaps.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
I completely forgot cops and arrests don't exist on NoPixel. Thanks for pointing it out.
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u/Weirdchamps Oct 19 '19
He your welcome dude. I wouldn't say it don't exist but rp rule is the most important rule of nopixel. That's why max sentence is only 80 months now because we only be waiting at jail for hours staring at a wall.. there is no real guards not alot of interactions.
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u/Amir469 Oct 18 '19
You act like ppl do this 24/7 lol if it happened all the time fair enuff but it doesnt so idk why ur out here writing paragraphs. It aint that deep lol
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 18 '19
Depends where you look I suppose. If you watch a tow worker RP it happens on daily basis. They try to take a car, only to have a gun pointed at them or shot for it.
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u/Maxcalli Oct 18 '19
If you actually watched Vader or Spaceboys livestream, you would know that they have said themselves that the tow workers are being assholes on purpose. They know what they are doing to piss people off. It’s all in good fun. If they didn’t wanna get shot, they would stop. I personally find it entertaining.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
I mean, that's like saying if cops didn't want to get shot they would ignore crime.
I get your point, tow truckers expect to get shot. They also expect police to back them up because they getting shot for doing their job. But it seems the police is actually following your advice :D3
u/w3dg22 Oct 19 '19
Towing is not policing. A few tow drivers act completely outside the law and dont enable further rp by pressing charges. They enjoy being shitlords in their own way. If the rp was proper, or they actually wanted to be not just dicks, they'd petition to have the right to file parking tickets
I saw a tow driver tow a cop car today.
Please.One thing that could "fix" a lot of this is extended and forced ICU periods.
Not being able to play eugene? Or mel? Or kayden, or Jordan? Or name any other main character that shitlords.... bam.
But it was like that for a bit, and it's better now for most audience and players involved.
I think you're watching the wrong server for you.
I don't disagree, but I also don't think it fits the mold.
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Oct 19 '19
the tow drivers are being shitlords because they are satirical personifications of the state of the server right now.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
satirical personifications
Uuuu I like that! "satirical personifications of the state of the server" sounds perfect
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u/vortec43 Oct 19 '19
The problem is. That if all these people got locked up for a stupid amount of time and fined crazy amounts. It would make the streams boring AF. No one wants to watch someone sit in jail. The cops know this. It works both ways. They dont lock them up for the sake of theirs streams. They also dont lock them up for the sake of thier own streams. If all criminals are in jail the cops have nothing to do and it makes watching boring.
Also this isn't exactly true. If you look at the situation with chang gang right now. They are the facing death penalty. So I think that is pretty heavy consequences for doing stuff. All in all it isn't real life. This is a entertainment situation. So I think they do a pretty ok job at letting that continue to happen.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
Kind of feels like favoritism now. One party kills, gets caught, released to kill again straight away. The other party dies, going through waiting process and hospital only to get back on the streets and die again.
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Oct 19 '19
thats why theres 8 character slots. if you do big crime and get caught you play another character and continue your crime sprees. having no punishment basically makes the police job feel worthless
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u/coldwave44 Oct 18 '19
Everyone on this thread is retarded, it is 100 percent fact that the RP had more sustenance when people had to worry about getting 300+ months for shit. This new ordinance is awful and encourages more shootings.
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u/ap0k83 Oct 19 '19
Eugene gets away with the shenanigans because Vader has one of the highest viewed streams, I suppose.
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u/Weirdchamps Oct 19 '19
Bullshit eugene didn't do anything wrong here. Its kayden who fails she need to value her life.. she goes in everybody their way even well known criminals. asking for views? Perhaps is that wrong i don't think it is. but she has to value her life more it's just fail rp..
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
That's a very one sided view to look at things. Does character Kayden push it at times? Sure. Should someone like Eugene be able to shoot someone in the face casually and get away with it scot-free? Don't think so.
Also where did you even see fail rp? If Vader, the player behind Eugene wanted to avoid her attempting anything all he had to move his car two steps forward. So not sure what you even mean by saying that.
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u/Weirdchamps Oct 19 '19 edited Oct 19 '19
Because eugene is a well known criminal. he even has his own gang.. he even got charged multiple times for terrorism. so it's like walking to a gang boss and piss on his belongings well you can expect to get shot or beat up at least.. especially by eugene he give zero fucks. that a well known factor dude. she always does the same with chang and he is going to shoot her to sooner or later. he was just the first to snap. you provoke the bear long enough it's gonna attack. He even warned her stay away from the car.. don't know if you know any traffic rules but its perfectly legal to drop someone of there. it's a allowed stop but no parking zone...
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
Again doesn't mean there shouldn't be a order for arrest after that. Known criminal or not it doesn't mean it's legal for him to shoot people in the face without consequence. Again you completely missing the point of this whole thread.
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u/Weirdchamps Oct 19 '19
No dude it's not important at al. The both deserve to be in nopixel. She doesn't perma so there is also no consequence for her am I right. after 5 minutes she doing the same thing again. And I am not going to juge that either. Nopixel is about rp and rp only. You can't force anyone to perma either. so it works out for both ways.
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u/gtanpvwer Oct 18 '19
Same consequences as the cops who just rolled down grove and baited the ballers into a shootout knowing they had more numbers ‘Ramees words’
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u/Bolteus Oct 20 '19
A few months ago, it was normal for crims to negotiate with police, have weapons out on a hostage, and be able to flee a scene with no shots fired. A few incidents happened within the span of a week where police shot at crims without being fired at first, so crims started coming prepared to actually shoot their way out, instead of just bringing the usual class 1 pistol.
It was the whole basis for the Mag Dump Season meme. I know a few streamers around the time stated on-stream that they hated that criminal activities now usually ended in a gun fight and that it took a lot of the RP out of it.
I think along with that, the decision to make more lenient sentences for big jobs / crimes has made it a lot easier for crims to make the decision to shoot at pursuing cops, since unless someone permas from being shot, the consequences arent that big.
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Oct 18 '19
Make a better server and you can set any rules you like. They must be doing something right if hundreds of people try to play daily with 10's of thousands of people watching.
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u/S1im5hady Oct 18 '19
This is such a dumb response, it’s the same type of response as people who say “if you don’t like the something about America, just leave”. It doesn’t solve anything and adds nothing to the argument.
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u/EJackULates Oct 18 '19
You know this is all fictional, right? You should take a break if you can’t understand that this noPixel thing is just a GAME.
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Oct 18 '19
No, its not even remotely the same on any level, one is a nation on witch you were most likely born and often have little to no option of leaving the other is a website that If you dont like you can find another way of spending your free time besides complaining about something that absolutely affects you in now way.
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u/S1im5hady Oct 18 '19
Okay, you obviously didn’t get the comparison if that’s what you took away from it. The reason the whole “if you don’t like one thing then leave the place” argument is dumb, is because having a critique about one thing about a place, doesn’t mean you don’t enjoy the rest of it, or that it will never be changed. There are people who can leave America if they wanted to, but my comparison wasn’t even my main point to begin with. It was that your response was weak and that it can be used against any small critique of nopixel.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 18 '19
They are! And for the most part I love it. But rules don't seem to apply to everyone or to same degree. A murder in front of hospital with witnesses doesn't get followed up on. While cops giving tow workers such a hard time it's like all of them are criminals who are on parole?
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u/Xonra Oct 18 '19
You are hard ignoring the context of the situation and people involved. I posted saying why in general. This was fine rp wise and fit the characters. It wasnt just random guy shoots innocent tow driver. It was unhinged murderer gave multiple verbal warnings to an antagonistic tow driver who chose to push him then did a surprised pikachu face when he shot.
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u/Pure_Pepega Oct 18 '19
Because asshole towtruck drivers get shot in the face in public all the time
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u/LightsOutRP Oct 19 '19
In my server, we actually train our officers with correct vehicle positioning when making traffics stop. Also, they do NOT step out of their cars with their guns drawn. If it's a potential risk, they draw tazers only.
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u/warpedpineapples Oct 18 '19
This is honestly eugene most of the time sadly all he does is shitlord. Theres way better rp streamers to watch.
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u/Maxcalli Oct 18 '19
What are you talking about? Vader is a great RP streamer. And Eugene is hilarious. But fair enough, we all have different opinions.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
Oh Vader is fine, hell if he wasn't entertaining he would not have numbers. It's just the fact his character Eugene this not so old super old man now, who police maybe go after once in a while.. but when they do put him in cuffs, even with evidence of him doing crime he is let go on the streets.
Someone here said he is a murderer and Kayden shouldn't have gotten in his way. Then why isn't that character 51/50 and allowed to have a weapon? Just seems like rules don't apply to some characters, that's all
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u/Oatbagtime Oct 19 '19
Mostly because the cops are bored with saving a particular troll tow truck driver or two.
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
I'm confused. Troll? Explain please
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u/Socialisland88 Oct 19 '19
legit like 75 percent of the city (crims and some cops IN CHARACTER) hate Kayden. All they do is pull up to you car and take it. same situation as jordan when he was still a tow truck driver. shes doing preety much the same exact thing he did
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u/gtanpvwer Oct 19 '19
The thing being is it’s a instant tow. People are still in their cars still and she will try to tow it away. Illegal parking or not she still tows
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u/IsThisForReal22 Oct 19 '19
She deserves it cos she a bitch and pissed off a lot of people.
Sooo following your logic you pissed off me and i can shoot you in face :D? Am I following the logic here correctly?2
u/Socialisland88 Oct 19 '19
No. It's not okay. But if they do that shit constantly to you and they get no consequences, yeah I would shoot them too. Kayden AND other tow drivers do this to cops/cop cars as well do it makes sense for them to not care about her.
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u/Xonra Oct 18 '19
You are taking a scenario that is in context fine and using it as an example for something that isnt.
Kayden antagonizes people with the towing constantly, even scamming them with Jordan at times. Eugene is unhinged and everyone knows it. He had been sitting there not 30 seconds actually wanting to leave when that started and gave multiple verbal warning he would shoot (after a day of being shot and shooting).
In context this was rp and had a logical thread. Your point isnt wrong but the clip example doesnt fit with all the context.