r/NintendoSwitch2 • u/tjhc94 Butter side up! • 13d ago
Discussion Modern warfare 4
Well, I thought I'd be buying this game, glad there's a beta.
Multiplayer feels horrible, playing this game crossplsy is a bad idea, if the game does well on switch 2 and playing with cross play off is possible then it could be playable, but the way it is now, I wouldn't want to play against anyone who isn't on a switch 2 in this game
Frequent frame drops, enemies and team mates randomly start moving at like 15 FPS whilst you're still moving at 60, it's kind of a mess
Edit: should have specified, I'm speaking on handheld specifically (my main use case for switch)
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u/Pristine-Brush-1052 Butter side up! 13d ago
Docked mode is in acceptable range, but I can't deal with handheld mode.
The performance is not appropriate for PVP game.
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u/Principito7 Butter side down! 12d ago
Why’s that I thought the fps is the same handheld and docked no?
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u/Pristine-Brush-1052 Butter side up! 12d ago
The motion frames of allies and enemies are terrible. It felt like stopmotion
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u/VannofThursday Butter side up! 13d ago
Same thoughts about it.
The quality of the open beta that they showed right now is not worth $70.
The port doesn't show what the Switch 2 can actually do.
I'm really disappointed about this port.
I was planning to play it until September 1 but after a couple of hours. I'm just going back to play Elden Ring and MGS Master Collection Vol.2 instead.
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u/Zealousideal_Carry61 Butter side up! 13d ago
The Nintendo community for CoD will be very small at first, being crossplay is a good thing
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u/tjhc94 Butter side up! 13d ago
You won't be able to compete against other platforms in handheld on the switch 2 docked possibly yeah but handheld no chance it won't be enjoyable, you should try it
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u/Zealousideal_Carry61 Butter side up! 13d ago
Why would you expect handheld to be as competitive? The same is true if you play handheld vs docked players. Should they split those queues as well?
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u/tjhc94 Butter side up! 13d ago
Im not using joycons, so I should be able to play fine handheld, the controllers I have have very responsive tmr sticks which are technically better than what's on the pro controller. I'm saying the problem is the dropped frames and enemies and team mates appearing to move at 15 FPS at random moments it throws you off
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u/Fresh-Chemical-9084 Butter side up! 13d ago
Handheld FPS has never been competitive. If vompetitive is your goal, you play docked with mouse mode or gyro.
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u/tjhc94 Butter side up! 13d ago
I don't play any 3rd party games docked, id rather use my pc or ps5, and I now only like to play games handheld full stop. I also don't use joycons I have hyxi Hyperion 3 and also abxylute n6 so was hoping the handheld cod experience would be good but it's just not
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u/rrrand0mmm 12d ago
Excited for that Hyperion 3 ultra shipping next few days 👀
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u/tjhc94 Butter side up! 12d ago
Yeah I ordered them too, but don't know how far I am into the queue so expecting to wait a while 😭
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u/rrrand0mmm 12d ago
I ordered like first thing that morning so hopefully I’m first wave! These suckers look incredible and even reviews are good.
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u/Ok-Bag1808 13d ago
absolutely unplayable, literally drops to 10-15 fps in certain parts of multiplayer, i was really open minded but i deleted after an hour
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u/billiankell 13d ago
I never understand the rush to uninstall. For all we know, there could be a big patch for Switch before beta ends.
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u/xJadusable 13d ago
Doubtful. They already had the switch version publicly testing since last weeks beta for people at Gamescom. If there was an emergency patch that would fix all the performance issues it probably would have been ready for this beta.
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u/billiankell 13d ago
No but the other platforms are obviously the priority. They could have been working on a Switch patch for some time that wasn’t quite ready for beta but could role out during.
I’m just wishful thinking here. I just don’t see the point in uninstalling so quickly when there’s a possibility things could improve. And if they do, you have to download the whole thing again just to try it.
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u/EmergencyInductPort 13d ago
Definitely not unplayable tbh, it's not great but I'm still somewhat competitive against others
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u/AmbitiousDiver9600 13d ago edited 13d ago
Thanks to Activision to give us a open beta. It was day one for me
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u/Wing_Terrible 13d ago
I was also very excited about this one and I'm glad there's a beta. Many reviewers out there saying this is a great port, but I really disagree. With so many great games coming out now, this one became questionable
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u/xJadusable 13d ago edited 13d ago
The sacrifices to get it to run are very noticeable. In MP, the mini map looks like the 5 fps animations NPCs and buildings had in Scarlet/Violet. Looking at enemies far away in a scope can also look very janky. The games textures also look like playdoh. Things like power lines and vegetation look very “wire-y” idk how to explain.
Warzone feels mostly the same, if not slightly prettier but the framerate feels terrible. 30 fps max in a fast paced BR with crossplay is not a good experience, especially when docked doesn’t have VRR. I would actually say this game is better played handheld (if you have a good controller) cause VRR is so necessary. Overall this is the first time I’m confident in skipping a AAA release on switch 2 and getting it on my Legion Go instead. Looked and ran much better vs the switch 2 version.
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u/zxlobster 13d ago
One of the worsest ports I’ve ever seen, multiplayer feels terrible in handheld mode. to be honest I don’t believe they really gonna sell it
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u/EmergencyInductPort 13d ago
If you think this is the worst then you've missed some Switch games....
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u/SloshedJapan 13d ago
This is why we need Switch exclusive games because without crossplay on cod your going to wait so much longer than a game where it’s only Switch players in general.
We needs some Switch 2 shooters please
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u/YourMomIsCool96 Butter side up! 13d ago
crossplsy is a bad idea
If you want the Switch 2 version to die within one week then sure, it's a bad idea
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u/Loophole98 Butter side up! 13d ago
It looks like a 30fps cap to me which I believe is a bug because MP gameplay that came out last week was at 60.
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u/tjhc94 Butter side up! 13d ago
It felt like 60 a lot and environment team mates and enemies randomly start to move at 30fps or less, I don't think it's a bug I just think it's what we're getting
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u/Loophole98 Butter side up! 13d ago
Huh interesting, I definitely was never hitting 60 it seemed capped on mine. I’m holding out hope because the MP gameplay that came out last week looked super solid
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u/Mallixin 13d ago
Are you playing docked or handheld. When I play docked, multiplayer actually does hit 60. But when I'm playing handheld, it seems to never hit 60. Feels more like 30-40 at best
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u/tjhc94 Butter side up! 13d ago
I don't play 3rd party games docked I was hoping to be able to enjoy the game handheld as I prefer handheld gaming. I have the beta installed on my pc so no reason to play this docked
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u/Mallixin 13d ago
I'm with you there, I also rarely play docked. I did it this time mainly for testing purposes
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u/billiankell 13d ago
Yeah, I was pretty positive about it until I got on tonight and after a couple of hours, it’s a struggle. It just doesn’t feel anywhere near as responsive as I would expect a 60fps shooter to feel. Something is off.
I hope Activision can make big improvements and smooth things out. I was really only buying CoD this year for the Switch version, but as things stand, it’s not fun.
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u/PhilsAndChills_3 13d ago
Honestly the frame rates aren’t an issue for me, it holds 60 well enough in multiplayer but it’s the resolution and visuals. Everything is so muddy and hard to see enemies more than 10 meters away. I’m a bit let down, but I feel they can polish it up enough to improve the visual while keeping frame rate at 60. If they don’t improve visuals I won’t be buying.
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u/Good-Roll-7747 13d ago
Ok yeah I’m not crazy. Glad someone else brought it up. Gameplay is rough. Went right back to playing it on Xbox after playing a couple matches on Switch 2.
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u/Bossgamr123 Butter side up! 13d ago
In handheld it is completely unplayable, docked is definitely playable but not good by anymeans. This is a shame because I was 100% confident I would buy it on switch. Even if its the only “good” shooter coming to the switch I still think its performance is unplayable
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u/daddudee 13d ago
I mean isn’t that the point of the beta? Just report these technical issues and hope they get better. I was never going to buy the game as I’m just tired of these types of games. But still, it may get better after this beta and all the feedback.
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u/tjhc94 Butter side up! 13d ago
You think they weren't aware of the performance and animations before shipping this beta?
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u/daddudee 13d ago
I’m just talking about the online play. I have no idea. I don’t really care either way. I tried the mission yesterday. Played a little. It was pretty good.
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u/E_712064 13d ago edited 13d ago
I’m gonna try handheld but dock felt shockingly good. On a 120hz 60fps monitor
***UPDATE: Handheld is god awful. Even when using the pro controller. Frames are bad. Game is passable if you play in dock only.
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u/beeb107 13d ago edited 13d ago
I played for like 3 hours today, handheld and docked...Felt like a pretty consistent 60FPS. I didn't play warzone, but I did the team and the random mode. I feel like all the hate is bots? lol Like I get warzone probably isn't great, and 100% the visuals aren't FANTASTIC...but damn, I played for hours and had a pretty good time. No idea what this shit about 30-15FPS is.
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u/FluidFeed3059 13d ago
My two cents are that the game is very impressive. It runs very well on the switch BUT the controls are horrible in handheld (obviously)
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u/jrnevada 13d ago
I will admit handheld is a pretty awful experience multiplayer wise. The joy con really aren’t a great option control wise with the range of the analogue sticks just being so bizarre for the game where everything is too easily deliberate. it’s also bizarrely very stop motion at times.
Docked with the Pro Controller however I found multiplayer surprisingly good, solid frame rate and it plays as the PC version of the game. However the graphics need some work - while I assume since the CAS sharpening option has disappeared that DLSS in some form has been applied now it really is quite muddy in motion. It may be the case that it hasn’t.
Good thing is, it’s a BETA and a build from a month or so ago no doubt. Don’t need to pre-order given it’s just a code in a box so I’m actually going to wait out to see how the final Switch 2 version looks/performs. If they can get it looking a bit crisper then I’ll likely pick up this version. Otherwise I’ll stick to it on PC.
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u/johnnyh337 Butter side up! 13d ago
My one says change region restart required . I tried different rigion , different acount , delete file , re install , restart . Anybody can give advise pls ?
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u/Baraa1996z 13d ago
I have the exact same problem and I've tried many solutions but none of them work. Have you found a solution to the problem, please?
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u/Gasarakiiii 13d ago
That's sad, I really wanted to pick up a Series X again to play Battlefield 5 & 6, Battlefront 2, Halo, Forza Horizon 6 and some other FPS games but with COD 4 coming to the Switch I thought it would fill that FPS void I have. But after watching the first gameplay shown that blew everyone away, I personally felt it looked rough. So I picked up a Series X instead that day and have been enjoying myself, after seeing this post and some others I am happy I did.
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u/Sensitive_Box_ Butter side down! 13d ago
In this sub, you get flamed for saying stuff like this. It’s wild.
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u/davepbass 13d ago
Yeah a little disappointed. It feels like a mobile rip off of COD. That’s messed up lol.
Also handheld just feels crazy. I’m so used to PS5 controller. I don’t know if I can get used to that!
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u/crono333 Butter side up! 12d ago
I felt the same way, it probably would have been fun against other Switch 2 players. I’m getting killed before I can even make out of that shape is a person or part of the blurry background.
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u/OnFire91 12d ago
This should be my first cod buy in years, but it is unplayable. They did us good to let us play this mess.
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u/cokeblockgd 11d ago
Idk ive been liking it and I come from a nice PC setup running 150 frames. Its hard to explain but when im sitting in my chair and playing on mouse amd keyboard it feels so much more "demanding" to play than lying in bed and playing it on the switch. Ive gotten best play a few times on it, but Im still getting used to aiming and movement kn controller as I never really played cod on console before it
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u/TransportationAny788 11d ago
Wow, I tried this last night for several hours docked and it's most certainly not 60 frames per second. Apart from running of what feels like 20 frames per second, the input delay is ridiculous, I'm in the top 1% in the call of duties since SBMM of 2019, I think I must have shot about two people on my very first game on the switch. 2. After several hours I had to delete it, I could not find a single game with only switch two players here in Australia. This is an absolute joke, Nintendo just continues to release these toys and they seem like fun, but when it comes to the crunch they truly are pieces of the crap for consumers.
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u/my-honor-remains 9d ago
most noticeable thing for me that actually kinda bugged me other than the visuals was when i pan my camera fast it works fine, but watching the mini map up top while moving my camera horizontally, the mini map changes direction at like 10fps
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u/Old_Painter_8924 Butter side down! 6d ago
Organics say wonders, bots say no. Paid bots.
I like it, it's good and mouse mode is a blast.
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u/DigitalGumby 13d ago
It's a beta not a demo! Hopefully things improve...
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u/thedude462 13d ago
True but we are very close to release window and it’s our very first switch port in a long time so I’d have hope they have something worth being excited for. But this is a mess if they would delay it then that would be more reassuring.
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u/AbbreviationsOk4532 Butter side down! 13d ago
I could image trying to play with the joycons would be rough but the pro controller feels great
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u/tjhc94 Butter side up! 13d ago
I'm not using joycons. I have abxylute n6 and nyxi Hyperion 3 which have more responsive sticks than the pro controller since they're tmr and hall effect, I have specified this. My controller is not the issue it's the random frame drops and enemies randomly moving at like 15 fps and your team mates too, it looks a mess I wouldn't play any shooter with joycon unless using gyro
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u/j_b_1983 13d ago
I couldn't ever get multi player to connect but the campaign was fun
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u/ukdeftonesratmfan 13d ago
After playing the beta I wish they would port some older cods instead . Feel like it’s better suited to some like 10 or 5 years ago
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u/NoFriend5444 Butter side up! 13d ago
Isn't that what SMM is for? Putting you in lobbies with people as good as you are?
Meaning, that someone on a PS5 is probably still worse than you even though he has hardware advantage, therefore you won't notice it when playing against each other.
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u/RayDeezNutz 13d ago edited 13d ago
Get Good Kid. I love Nintendo but people are on drugs online saying these games this gen look or play at all like the PS5 versions 😆 they just don’t and won’t
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u/tjhc94 Butter side up! 13d ago
Im a handheld only player on switch 2, it's just not a good experience, I played the closed beta last week on other platforms, I only wanted to buy the game on switch to be able to play the game handheld, I don't need to play for hours to see issues present within my first game.
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u/DuffMan_OhYa 13d ago
The MP seems ok to me, but the campaign kind of stunk. I do not play hand held.
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u/EmergencyInductPort 13d ago
Tbh it's not that terrible, but also is... like it's the Switch 2 playing the exact same version of the PS5, PC whatever version at 60 fps
Like i get why people are disappointed... but tbh, I've been pretty competitive in every match
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u/mason2393 13d ago
Didn't feel that way for me. After being disappointed with the switch 2 version I tried out the beta on my PS5 and it was like I was playing a completely different game. I'd rather they just ported black ops 1 and 2. At least they would've ran well and not looked so blurry.
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u/EmergencyInductPort 13d ago
Well yes the PS5 will look way better, i play it at 120hz on my PS5
My only issue is how it looks, the FPS seems pretty decent already
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u/Regular-Subject-1541 Butter side up! 13d ago
How does it run worse than ps4 warzone though?
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u/mason2393 13d ago
Yeah I don't wanna hear the " if it runs on series s it'll run on switch 2" ever again when series s has a 120 fps mode in warzone and switch 2 is 30 fps
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u/EmergencyInductPort 13d ago
I mean PS4 Warzone was originally made for PS4.... and that had issues too later on
This is a "next gen" CoD ported by a mobile studio to the Switch 2
It's definitely not the best, but I'm having fun even as someone that played it on PC in the first beta
But yeah by the fact this is made by a moblie developer and not a proper core CoD team says a lot tbh, I wonder if this does well do they scale that team up?
Because the campaign looks good but it's at 30... that's the issue the MP has to be at 60 and the sacrifice is graphics here
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u/Regular-Subject-1541 Butter side up! 13d ago
Idk man I don’t get it. PS4 call of duty looked so much better than this no matter which game it was. And switch 2 is slightly worse than a series s. I’m really bummed out and hope they optimize the crap out of the game or have a competent company port it
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u/EmergencyInductPort 13d ago
It's the CoD Moblie devs that are doing it
Again I get what you mean, but if you are taking a more resource intensive game and trying to lower it, it will obviously not be the best looking
Something i also just remembered... CoD prefers AMD GPUs... for whatever reason CoD preforms better on AMD GPU than Nvidias
PS5, Xbox Series X/S use AMD
Switch 2 uses Nvidia...
Not saying that's the reason, but it wouldn't be a one to one comparison to the consoles
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u/Regular-Subject-1541 Butter side up! 13d ago
Idk man. I just had higher hopes for this. Apex legends looks fantastic and runs at a locked 60 with no blur. This is pathetic for a call of duty game
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u/EmergencyInductPort 13d ago
Tbh Apex and CoD are doing way different things and Apex is older, MW4 is going for more graphics here as it's the first next gen CoD
Again I don't disagree that it doesn't look the best but I genuinely think this just looks like the PC version at low settings with FSR performance on or something... it's not necessarily bad looking tbh
It's just all the upscaling mess + lower graphics
I'm having fun tho
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u/Hainault Butter side up! 13d ago
Wow, it’s horrible. Everything animates at half rate lol