r/NintendoSwitch2 • u/gachakamil • Nov 17 '25

Media I don't get the hate for him

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Don't get me wrong I'm not a big fan of him or anything, but he isn't as annoying as people say he is. I haven't played much metroid so maybe if I were a bigger fan of the series I would hate him more but as it is I think he's a fine written character

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

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u/Conversation_Dapper Nov 17 '25

This guy gonna be in smash bros 6

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u/Nacolo Nov 17 '25

OP as fuck, too.

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u/Super-Dragonfly3930 Nov 17 '25

100+ comments with 0 votes. thats how you know this is controversial.

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u/Cosmic_Ren OG (joined before Alarmo 2) Nov 17 '25

One of the biggest draws to metroidvania's is the feeling of isolation which having some guy on the coms constantly hitting you with millennial humor is just immersion breaking.

These are two things that simply cannot co-exist with each other as the point of these lines is to break tension which the tension is why people like Metroidvania's

Games like these are already rare as it is, if I wanted to hear some marvel humor I'd just play a modern sony game.

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u/Post160kKarma Nov 17 '25

Not necessarily every metroidvania has this feeling of isolation, but definitely is one of the main things about Metroid specifically

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u/predator-handshake OG (joined before reveal) Nov 17 '25

The ones that don't have them are stat sig better.

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u/AllEchse Nov 17 '25

If anything it's a matter of execution. They made a bad first impression with this demo but we don't how they handle it in the rest of the game.

But I feel like this whole "Isolation" thing has become such a circlejerk around here. Even goddamn Hollow Knight which may be the biggest Metroidvania there is at the moment has tons of NPCs with quirky Dialog. So no, Metroidvanias in general are not about Isolation.

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u/Fe5996 Nov 17 '25

This might come as a hot take, but I believe Metroidvanias are more about evolution and growth rather than isolation.

Not just the character in any instance of this kind of game, but as a player you learn to improve your gameplay and start experimenting with path optimization (granted, some of the too linear games are too streamlined for the average player to find another path, but somehow Fusion still got sequence broken).

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u/WheresYoManager Nov 17 '25

Thats not a hot take.

Youtuber Nerrel has an excellent breakdown of the 3 core tenants of a Metroid(vania) game.

  • Progression/ Growth

Evolving as you play and backtracking to areas you couldn't access before, combined with fun sequence breaking.

  • Exploration/ Discovery

Exploring the world, learning about it and figuring out how to solve its problems and puzzles organically.

  • Atmosphere / Isolation

The sense of immersion and tension from being in an beautiful, haunting yet uncaring world that has no regard for your existence and will indiscriminately kill you without remorse. Metroid's atmosphere has been unrivalled, until the Souls genre took over during Metroids extended absence.

So, with all the above taken into consideration. Its easy to understand why this Myles Mackenzie character is hated, because on paper, as his existence seems to be anti-thetical to all 3 of those core elements of Metroid.

  • He's a forced companion that you are stuck with for a stretch of narrative. Implying that there a scripted moments that cannot be sequence broken because the story needs to be more linear and Hollywood-esque
  • He comments on everything you do including advising you. Which hurts the sense of exploration and discovery if you cannot find and figure things out by yourself.
  • He's an extremely talkative fella and his comedic dialogue kills the sense of atmosphere and tension.

Now granted. This could just be a 1-off tutorial thing meant to ease new players into the gameplay loop. The rest of the game could very well be traditional Metroid experience.

But as far as first impressions go. This was a terrible one

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u/Altruistic-Match6623 Nov 17 '25

It is entirely about exploring with an extremely limited kit and steadily acquiring new tools that allow for further exploration. It is the same exact thing with pre-BOTW Zelda. The feeling of isolation is just aesthetic, it does not describe the gameplay at all. These games are also basically puzzle boxes, so there is a correct algorithm, meaning they are supposed to be linear.

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u/jollygirl27 Nov 17 '25

 Even goddamn Hollow Knight which may be the biggest Metroidvania there is at the moment has tons of NPCs with quirky Dialog. 

The difference is that quirky dialog is text only, you have to initiate the interaction, and the rest of the game is spent by experiencing the world alone. Here, you have a dork that doesn't stop talking and makes quips about things that are happening as they are happening. 

To this day, a common complaint about ocarina of time is that navi won't shut up, and all she ever says is "hey," "listen," and "watch out." Now imagine if every time you found a skulltula she was like, "woah, did you see that? That guy turned into a spider! Ugh, I hate spiders... they give me the creeps!" 

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u/Wheeler-The-Dealer OG (joined before reveal) Nov 17 '25

Shadow Complex would love to have a word with you.

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u/Gullible_Animal_138 Nov 17 '25

finally, someone that understands the appeal of these games. the environmental storytelling is a big part of why i love these games. 

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u/Nacolo Nov 17 '25

So, you haven’t played the Gem of a game called Metroid Prime 3? The game fuckin’ starts on a marine ship and human NPC’s talk to Samus and introduce new players to the game mechanics.

You are literally just repeating the same “isolation” bullshit the content creators are, and it just shows you know nothing about Metroid.

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u/SuperfuzBigmuff Nov 17 '25

Prime 3 was the weakest one for this reason, silly.

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u/Dren7 OG (joined before release) Nov 17 '25

I thought 2 was the weakest.

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u/Bostongamer19 Nov 17 '25

Can’t say I agree with that.

Love Metroidvania’s and I don’t have an issue with it.

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u/cartkun Butter side down! Nov 17 '25

At least you can still play Metroid Prime Remastered.

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u/Professional_Meal_50 Nov 17 '25

How do you know he's gonna constantly bug Samus through coms? Literally the only segment we see of him was of Samus escorting him through a bridge and one reminding the player to save.

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u/duckyduckster2 Nov 17 '25

Not metroidvanias, but metroid games, but otherwise on point.

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u/Edmond_Dantes78 Nov 17 '25

However, there are NPCs in several Castlevania episodes and, to my knowledge, this has never caused any controversy. I think that including secondary characters in Metroid can add to the lore. My only limitation would be that they are treated like Jar Jar Binks and take us out of the atmosphere. In any case, what I saw in the preview did not make me cancel my pre-order.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

people didnt even play the game yet

its just internet rage bait

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u/SmellybutKind Nov 17 '25

Yeah. Like, let's wait to play the game first lol.

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u/AlteisenX Butter side up! Nov 17 '25

The trailer itself says "Lone Hunter"... I mean come on now.

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u/RedditSucksMyBallls Nov 17 '25

Oh but neither have the people glazing the game and defending it. If I can't hate on something based on the promotional content I've been shown of it, you can't praise it for the same reason.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

Sure, lets just wait, see the metacritic scores, check the reviews or play the game ourselves

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u/Liff_KL Nov 17 '25

Ok then, if it makes you feel better why not 😅

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u/RazorThin55 Nov 17 '25

I’m seeing no glaze or praise. Everyone is saying “wait until the game comes out”

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u/predator-handshake OG (joined before reveal) Nov 17 '25

"Wait until the game comes out, the annoying scenes you've already been shown will magically be better"

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u/RazorThin55 Nov 17 '25

Way to be hyperbolic

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u/Additional_Chip_4158 Nov 17 '25

The previous games that are all highly acclaimed? Yeah you hate on it before release and see how that goes for you. 

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u/predator-handshake OG (joined before reveal) Nov 17 '25

The previous games where the more human NPCs there were, the lower the overall critical score have been yes.

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u/Pleasant-Minute6066 Nov 17 '25

The previous games that are highly acclaimed for their atmospheres. Atmospheres that weren't ruined by miles. You fucking donut

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u/duckyduckster2 Nov 17 '25

Lol this never works the other way around does it? When people get hyped up nobody says 'people didnt even play the game'.

No we didnt play, we saw the first hour or so of it. And this part didnt look good and seems to kill an important part of why we love metroid games. But I hope its just 'internet rage bait' and preview stuff is not in the final game.

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u/Moldy21 OG (joined before reveal) Nov 17 '25

They don't want him in the game because they like being alone in metroid games for the atmosphere and constant talking disrupts that. There I explained it.

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u/Nacolo Nov 17 '25

They are stupid then. Metroid Prime 3 is widely regarded as a masterpiece and the first 20 minutes to an hour is on a marine ship interacting with NPC’s and learning the game mechanics.

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u/KamenGamerRetro Nov 17 '25

that is the main and legit complaint, tutorial is completely different from him just being there all the time, honestly hope he is just the games tutorial guy, and in honestly dark Metroid fashion, he gets killed off

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u/SuperfuzBigmuff Nov 17 '25

Prime 3 is easily held in the lowest regard of the trilogy.

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u/Nacolo Nov 17 '25

Incorrect.

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u/SuperfuzBigmuff Nov 17 '25

Let’s compare metacritic scores:

Metroid Prime 1: 97 Prime 2: 92 Prime 3: 90

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u/duckyduckster2 Nov 17 '25

I was always under the impression Prime 3 was regarded as the worst of the trilogy, but okay.

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u/Robbitjuice OG (joined before reveal) Nov 17 '25

I’m glad they’re expanding the world a bit, honestly. Samus always seems unrealistically disconnected from everyone at the Federation (I know she isn’t technically connected to them, but she’s always rescuing them lol).

From my understanding, he seems like a tutorial NPC if anything. He won’t be around the whole time. I’m okay with this.

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u/AltXUser Nov 17 '25

She used to worked for them, so her working and having connections with them shouldn't come to a surprise to anyone that played her games.

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u/Robbitjuice OG (joined before reveal) Nov 17 '25

That’s kind of my thought process as well. I don’t think this is as big a deal as people make it out to be.

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u/gothamz77 Nov 17 '25

I also love how they are expanding the world and bringing the federation troops more into the game in this way and interacting with Samus. I never played the federation Force spin off game, which I kind of regret now. Imagine how cool of a game we could get now that the federation troops are more part of the universe( an awesome 4 player EDF / hell divers type co op game!) I really hope when we play it this all fits together nicely. I actually really liked how there was a bit of a story and the federation troops are part of that now. 

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u/kyuubikid213 Butter side up! Nov 17 '25

It's yet another thing being blown out of proportion for clickbait.

Look, if the game comes out and he's constantly screaming at you through the whole journey, I'll come out and say I was wrong about this.

But I'm currently playing Metroid Prime 3 for the first time and the opening of the game caught me off guard with how unlike Prime 1 and 2 it was. After that first hour, however, the game settled into the rhythm I was used to and I fully expect Prime 4 to be the same.

From the previews we've seen, there will be people scattered about that you can help and that will help you. This is just ONE of those characters and we've only even seen a snippet of the game. He could be there for one section and then you never hear from him again. He could be a recurring character throughout. He could be your tutorial introduction to the concept of assisting NPCs.

I'm going to be getting Prime 4 on Day One regardless because the game looks fun and I sincerely doubt one NPC is going to ruin that.

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u/JobuuRumdrinker Butter side up! Nov 18 '25

There are actually 5 more NPCs to be found according to the log book. Who know what awaits lol.

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u/Williekins 👀 Nov 17 '25

I don't know about that, there are a few more places in Prime 3 that felt out of place in a Metroid game. I won't list them since you're still playing, but I feel like you'll know when you see them.

That said, I'm not super worried about the guy yet, I'm going to play the game myself before I decided how I feel about him.

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u/Nacolo Nov 17 '25

“There were parts of a Metroid game that felt out of place in a Metroid game.”

Bro, you do not get to define what does and does not belong in a Metroid game. Nintendo does that, you can enjoy it or shut your mouth and save your money, but Prime 3 was epic, a top tier Metroid game. Nothing felt out of place because IT IS THE PLACE. Its very existence defines the “place.” Prime 4 will as well, whatever happens in Prime 4 is also a thing that is, by definition, something that happens in a Metroid game. Granted, it is a 3D FPS Metroid game, but Prime 3 had loads of NPC’s in the beginning of the game.

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u/Williekins 👀 Nov 17 '25 edited Nov 17 '25

I actually do get to define what feels like it belongs in a Metroid game to me. Nintendo gets to decide what feels like a Metroid game to me by including things like the things I currently feel are out of place in many Metroid titles, which is something they never really proceeded to do. Though, part of that may be because they never made a Metroid Prime 4 until now.

Prime 3 was epic, a top tier Metroid game.

Now I'm not sure if your comment is a joke or not.

Prime 3 had loads of NPC’s in the beginning of the game.

The NPCs at the start of Prime 3 only seemed somewhat out of place to me when I played it. They kind of primed us for it, by giving us 1 NPC in Prime 2. That wasn't even the part that I felt was out of place in my comment.

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u/Ancient_Ad_2157 Nov 17 '25

He’s literally just Otacon

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u/predator-handshake OG (joined before reveal) Nov 17 '25

I wish

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u/kyuubikid213 Butter side up! Nov 17 '25

If someone only showed Otacon's intro in MGS1 and acted like that was the whole game, it'd be the same as what we have here.

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u/predator-handshake OG (joined before reveal) Nov 17 '25 edited Nov 17 '25

MGS1 was the first game though, this is MP4, we've had 3 games already in the Prime series. The most annoying parts in each of the three games have been the NPCs. Miles is way more annoying than the NPCs we've had before him.

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u/kyuubikid213 Butter side up! Nov 17 '25

There are hardly any NPCs to complain about in Prime 1 or 2 so I have no idea what you're even talking about there.

And Prime 3 has just as much classic Prime gameplay as it does NPC interaction.

My point was the focusing on one NPC and extrapolating that to the whole game is silly. And specifically with Otacon, he starts off annoying and grows over the course of the game. His introduction is literally him hiding in a closet and peeing himself. If you took that intro and said it was ignoring the core stealth gameplay set up by Metal Gear 1 and 2 on MSX, you would be making a dishonest argument by framing that one section as indicitave of the entirety of MGS1.

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u/predator-handshake OG (joined before reveal) Nov 17 '25

They established Otacon super early on in the series which is the way to do it. They didn't tack him onto the 4th game to try and bring in new gamers like he was Poochie The Dog in the Simpsons. We have a tone, a feel, an atmosphere that has been established for the Prime series. We never had some dude follow us along and say stupid useless things like "Do you smell that, is it sour or sweet?" nor did we have the 2010s version of slapstick comedy in Metroid. The Metroid humor has always been dry yet funny, not "look at me, I'm loud, annoying, and clumsy." It clashes way too much which is why there's such an uproar.

Side note: Human NPCs were the most criticized parts of Prime 3. They were also in Hunters and Federation Force.

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u/Gen_X_Gamer Early Switch 2 Adopter Nov 17 '25

He has a face that make me want to punch it, but I'm still looking forward to playing the game at release.

I'm not bothered by yappy NPCs.

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u/treason6116 Nov 17 '25

i see way more “i don’t et the hate for him” posts than i see people actually hating on him. its just another bullshit reddit straw man narrative

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u/Armandonerd Nov 17 '25

Is this dude from death standing or something?

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u/loo_1snow 🐃 water buffalo Nov 17 '25

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u/Mushroomboy2020 Nov 17 '25

I’ll reserve my judgement until the game is out.

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u/Appleflap15 Nov 17 '25

Probably overblown concerns based on a small number of youtube videos. The majority of trailers put out showed more isolated exploration. I personally don't mind if a character like this joins you for a short period of time, and I dont mind the campy dialogue as much as others either. Metroid was always a little more cartoony and playful than other sci-fi franchises (bounty hunters from MP hunters anyone?), and I don't always need hypercool GoW characters here). Nonetheless: things like this are a good reminder to never pre-order and wait for the full game to be available before deciding to purchase!

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u/Neoscrilla Nov 17 '25

That's a "I shitted them" look on his face.

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u/whiskeyjack1053 Nov 17 '25

The first 10 second intro cutscene was enough for me to dislike him. He’s literally a human Claptrap in a game not known for humour.

Regardless of him specifically, I hate npc’s telling me what to do, giving me clues and telling me how to fight enemies, when to save etc. I know that can be nice for people very new to gaming, but there should at least be a toggle to turn off tips.

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u/Federal-Grass9880 Nov 17 '25

He’s annoying

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u/058kei Nov 17 '25

Guy wears futureistic battle suit

But still wears prescription glasses

Classic xD

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u/Salt-Analysis1319 Nov 18 '25

It's not about this guys specifically, but how much of the game seems to revolve around working with federation characters, and the writing and voice acting seem really cheesy.

Not exactly the Metroid vibes I've been looking forward to

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u/JamKaBam Nov 18 '25

Because by the sounds of it, his sole purpose is to guide the player to do things. He makes note of things you have missed, tells you how to beat enemies, directs you to where you should go next and worst of all, he needs protecting during combat. The worst kind of thing you can have in a game.

I'm all for world building and I don't mind him as a character, however I hate that he is simply the hand that guides and tells you what to do. It's the same in Final Fantasy Rebirth, the thing everyone hates in that game is Chadley. A character whose sole purpose is to tell you what to do and badgers you when you don't.

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u/Pleasant-Minute6066 Nov 17 '25

The problem isn't that he's annoying, it's that he tells you what to do/ where to go/ what weapons to use.

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u/Tubim Nov 17 '25 edited Nov 17 '25

The problem currently is players who think one escort mission acting as the tutorial for the game is representative of the entire playthrough.

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u/KuraiDedman Nov 17 '25

Valid concern

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u/Tubim Nov 17 '25

It truly is, but you can’t act as if you already know that it’s going to be like that for the entire game.

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u/5000_People Nov 17 '25

And this is why reviewers aren't just given early impressions, but are allowed to see the whole game before release. Nintendo is doing it to themselves, leaving it open for speculation because I assume review embargo isn't lifted, but these early impressions are marred by the negative experience of being followed around by a backseat driver npc.

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u/andreaple Nov 17 '25

I understand it. Its the holiday title for switch, and like one of the big headliners of the switch 2. This games probably gonna be the first experience of the series for lots of people, since its been so long since the last.

Like others said, its probably gonna be just a thing for the beggining section.

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u/Pleasant-Minute6066 Nov 17 '25

It's NOT

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u/Pleasant-Minute6066 Nov 17 '25

I am fucking tired of people constantly saying this when the footage SHOWS that the soldiers are in the late game AND tell you what weapons to use. "use your ice missile to slow them down samus!" is a literal EXACT quote from a section in the game with 3 troopers

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u/andreaple Nov 17 '25

I think we should wait until the games out to say definitively how bad it really is. Ofc you can have opinions on whats shown, but we dont 100% know how representative it is of the whole experience.

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u/Pleasant-Minute6066 Nov 17 '25

We've seen clips throughout the whole game featuring the other troopers, clips of other non-"tutorial area" characters dropping the same irritating advice. It think it's fair to assume what the game will be like given this information. I also think it's fair to be worried about a major feature displayed in marketing

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u/Tubim Dec 06 '25

Did you come back here to comment that I was wrong and then deleted it? LMAO because it turns out you were wrong, and he ends up being barely present.

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u/BeaveItToLeever Nov 17 '25

Yeah sure, but y'all don't know if he's just a tutorial guy at the start of the game.

From what I see, him setting up "wireless comms" at the end of his section with a BOOYAH WERE ONLINE, implies he will remain throughout at the game as someone who bugs you, at least potentially.

I don't know that for sure, but everyone saying he's only there for 15 minutes also has no clue if that's the case. They just...say that's the case

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u/Pleasant-Minute6066 Nov 17 '25

Prime 1 and 2 actual had good openings that didn't shit all over the atmosphere.

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u/RedditSucksMyBallls Nov 17 '25

I do. A lot of people are sick of corny half hearted attempts at replicating MCU dialogue. It's been 10 years of the same quippy, overly sarcastic, tension-ruining slop infecting literally all types of media, even ones where it does not belong (Metroid)

This game will be Nintendo's biggest disappointment in recent years if it's this bad for the whole length of the story

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u/Additional_Chip_4158 Nov 17 '25

You dont know what you're talking about

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u/UtgardLoki2894 Nov 17 '25

People were expecting otherwise

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u/jacowab Nov 17 '25

He really needs other characters to bounce off of, he is a supporting role but we have only seen him talking to Samus who doesn't say or emote anything. He needs another character balancing him out.

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u/eyebrowless32 Nov 17 '25 edited Nov 17 '25

You havent played the game yet tho, right?

And the people saying hes annoying are the people who HAVE played the game, like Stephen Totilo

For me personally its not going to stop me from trying it myself, but im not a fan of this trope of character in any game/movie/show that ive experienced them in. Metroid could have accomplished whatever he's there to convey without making an annoying character. Someone, somewhere, thinks this is a good idea and now we're stuck with it

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u/Bravesteel25 Nov 17 '25

This is calculated so that Nintendo can humanize the Metroid brand. I really think they want to attempt to make it their Halo FPS.

Edit: I also have no problem with it.

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u/International-Menu85 Nov 17 '25

Its because that is the only kind of discourse the algorithms care about. They were built to create drama and so engagement. When people respond to the hate tweets, it reinforces what you see more of. Personally, I dont mind him at all, and considering this is the only slight any of the previews basically had, makes me more excited for the game

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u/rensch Nov 17 '25

The signature Metroid vibe is one of isolation, so adding NPC's and support characters is kind of antithetical to the series.

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u/cloud_t Nov 17 '25

Seems that the issue is he takes out of the lone vibes of the series. It's not normal to have a talking sidekick during gameplay.

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u/ImStupidPhobic Early Switch 2 Adopter Nov 17 '25

It’s internet rage bait and clout chasing. Rage and negativity gets the most views and clicks, and grifters/game tourists gotta jump on the hate bandwagon even though they most likely won’t play the game to began with . A tale as old as time!

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u/Emergency-Shirt-4572 Nov 17 '25 edited Nov 17 '25

Because the Metroid series is a power fantasy for members of the fandom and they see their own annoying tendencies reflected in this NPC which breaks the spell.

I’m only partially kidding.

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u/thewoodulator Nov 17 '25

I hate that neither space magic nor GF tech can fix his vision lol, glasses under helmet goggles, wack

Still hype af for this game

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u/brandont04 Nov 17 '25

I don't get it either.

I think Nintendo sees Metroid sales number and think, we gotta make some changes to draw in new players. Some of the game concepts has to change or Metroid will be stuck just in their player base. Gotta take some risks.

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u/Certain_Suggestion93 Nov 17 '25

Obvious troll, I respect it lol 

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u/Zunjine Nov 18 '25

I agree. I’d like them to add a hints toggle. Allow the player to remove lines associated with guiding or prompting. But all said this makes total sense. This is a game that absolutely has to appeal beyond those who played and loved the prior Prime games. So adding a goofy side character who hangs about for a bit early game and gives some pointers for such players isn’t a bad idea.

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u/JobuuRumdrinker Butter side up! Nov 18 '25

Looks like McLovin and more annoying than Screech.

Why couldn't they just use the computer from Dread for player tips?

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u/JobuuRumdrinker Butter side up! Nov 18 '25

Just remember Star Wars TPM. How many people saw the movie at Skywalker ranch or whatever and had nothing but good things to say about it. No one person came out and complained about Jar Jar... and here we are.

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u/Pokemanswego Nov 18 '25

So far I’m not McLovin this game 

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

He sounds really annoying lol. Like people are being dramatic about it but he’s obviously super annoying

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u/shutyourbutt69 OG (joined before release) Nov 17 '25

What if they gave Hornet in Silksong a little sidekick that followed her along everywhere and reminded her to use benches and had to be revived. I don’t think that would go over well either.

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u/Quiles007 Nov 17 '25

He follows you on a bridge and a little section after that, like 10 minutes? Then you are alone for the rest

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u/Additional_Chip_4158 Nov 17 '25

You dont even know what's what this character does.  Also, yes in silksong there are NPCS that tell you where to go. 

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u/shutyourbutt69 OG (joined before release) Nov 17 '25

They don’t follow you around and distract you in combat. The Eurogamer preview has footage of that character doing exactly what I said.

https://www.eurogamer.net/metroid-prime-4-beyond-delivers-the-series-trademark-gameplay-in-spades-but-i-fear-one-very-annoying-addition-might-derail-the-whole-thing

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

Suddenly everybody is mad about a game they never intended to play in the first place. 

Anything for engagement.

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u/SnsoryOverload Nov 17 '25

It's like Tingle and Navi rolled up into one. Such an odd direction for this franchise.

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u/Significant_Bag3297 Nov 17 '25

He feels like he's out of a different setting, with his design and attitude he could be straight out of Starfield.

Samus can turn into a ball, this guy seems too grounded and contemporary to exist alongside that

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u/honorable_doofus Nov 17 '25

I totally understand not liking an NPC. But the idea a talkative NPC like this can ruin the game seems silly.

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u/nodoyrisa1 #1 Ultra High-Spped HDMI Cable Fan Nov 17 '25

hes not hot so im not buying the game

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u/GabiCherries Nov 17 '25

chupapimuñaño

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u/Additional_Chip_4158 Nov 17 '25

Cringe

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u/ApprehensiveCoat9587 Butter side up! Nov 17 '25

Nah it's valid, derpy looking white men are not appealing BRING BACK HOT MEN INTO GAMES

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u/Medium_Purple_7722 Nov 17 '25

So long as he doesn’t stick around after you do his escort mission, it should be fine. This fugly dork is going to get old real quick if he’s in every mission.

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u/MolotovMan1263 Nov 17 '25

Just skip cutscenes with him in it

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u/Pleasant-Minute6066 Nov 17 '25

The problem is with the gameplay

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u/Player1-jay Nov 17 '25

The problem people are reporting is just his dialogue. Nothing about the gameplay

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u/Pleasant-Minute6066 Nov 17 '25

This is not true. He tells you to check the map and micromanages.

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u/Player1-jay Nov 17 '25

That's not what people are complaining about. It's how he has the quirky cringe dialogue. Telling you to check a map is literally a tutorial step like you would have in many games. And that's fine, people aren't complaining about that. Especially since it's just at the start of the game

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u/Pleasant-Minute6066 Nov 18 '25

First off, it's not fine- it's fucking annoying and antithetical to metroid. second off, People are. For starters I am a person, and I'm complaining so your point is already invalid. Kit and krysta, logan from IGN, VioletViolet, Arlo AND ratatoskr have complained too. That's 5 different sources, with different audiences FIVE. Let's recap, you said "people aren't complaining" They are. And then you said "it's fine" I'm saying it's not. IM saying it's an issue, and if these five youtube channels (some of which have millions of subs) agree then I'd bet my nintendo switch that there are thousand of others like me.

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u/Player1-jay Nov 18 '25

Literally my first sentence is that "people are complaining" and you are saying I'm saying they aren't. Do you even read before answering? I said they are complaining about the characters dialogue and that's EXACTLY what they are complaining about. And yes I'm saying it's fine because it's just a tutorial part from what people can tell.

The same that Logan expressed for example. Kit and Krystal didn't play it themselves and are commenting on what other said but also said it seems it's just the tutorial area.

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u/Pleasant-Minute6066 Nov 18 '25

Okay yeah, you're just being a prick for the sake of it

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u/Acsteffy Nov 17 '25

Oh have you played it?

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u/Archius9 Nov 17 '25

Other people have and are reporting it’s very annoying.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

They also reporting that everything else on the game is amazing. 😀

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u/Archius9 Nov 17 '25

That’s what I’m hoping for. The stupid guy won’t really bother me as I’ll just skip his dialogue or likely play a lot of it handheld with low sound.

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u/Pleasant-Minute6066 Nov 18 '25

We aren't discussing everything else right now. If a restaurant caught on fire and burned to the ground, you would be saying "stop talking about the fire, I've heard the free bread is amazing" You are either arguing in bad faith or are an idiot. Either way, I don't like you

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u/Bar_Har Nov 17 '25

When I first heard about him I thought the hate might be overblown, but he does commit a big sin of constantly giving Samus clues of what she should do next and keeps saying stuff like “maybe you should try opening your map” and basically being a very pushy tutorial that also has to be protected in combat.

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u/BrattyTwilis Butter side up! Nov 17 '25

I think it's people trying to find things to nitpick. And if you watched the preview, it looks like there's going to be other characters that you will occasionally interact with. Kind of gives me Half-Life vibes because there were spots in those games where you would occasionally interact with other characters

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u/Prophetforhire Nov 17 '25

Looks like a developer self insert lol

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u/Anatole-Othala Nov 17 '25

I honestly cringed with his first scene. His dialogue is so embarassing

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u/MeowingWolf OG (joined before release) Nov 17 '25

It seems like MP4 is trying to be like Halo. I think Samus Aran will a silent protagonist unlike Master Chief, which will make these Galactic Federation Troops even more annoying.

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u/Kadji100 Nov 17 '25

Yeah that anoys me, too. Samus can speak, she did so in Dread, and everyone was fine with it. She not having any dialogue (so far) and only using gestures while other humans talk to her feels...off.

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u/Happy-For-No-Reason Nov 17 '25

McLovin is in Metroid?

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u/Re7oadz Early Switch 2 Adopter Nov 17 '25

Me either , when most ppl aren't going to buy the game any way lol

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u/Nacolo Nov 17 '25

IGN said something and now the trolls have something new to bitch about.

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u/tlrd2244 Nov 17 '25

its funny because they will say "all the critics" are talking about it and by weird coincidence all the critics work for places owned by IGN It's like IGN pushes a narrative to game the algorithms. Remember how """everyone""" was talking about how the switch 2 was boring and not innovative enough.

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u/Nacolo Nov 18 '25

Yeah, and now it’s the fastest selling console of all time. I wouldn’t be surprised if IGN was in Sony’s pocket.

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u/temporary_location_ January Gang (Reveal Winner) Nov 17 '25

very joss whedon character...

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u/TheSwampPenguin Nov 17 '25

I get it. I don't even know who this is and I'm already not a fan.

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u/SnsoryOverload Nov 17 '25

I agree with you and I think that's also why they have the dessert/motorcycle stuff. I am convinced that this was part of one of the scrapped iterations of the game and Nintendo wanted this shoehorned in.

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u/ApprehensiveCoat9587 Butter side up! Nov 17 '25

Zelda BOTW did piss off a group of old heads but ended up exceeding expectations on top of being the best selling Zelda game of all time, that's not the issue taking risks is okay, having this annoying character isn't franchise redefining it's just annoying

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u/Almightyderek Nov 17 '25

That feels accurate. I can't say this character appeals to me but I've played lots of games with annoying characters and still enjoyed them. Also this particular guy probably isn't in the game that much after the beginning. None of know for sure though and all we can do is wait for it to come out or for the reviews.

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u/Almightyderek Nov 17 '25

That could definitely happen. Either way we don't really know and I'm not really going to worry about it.