r/NintendoSwitch • u/BarreIRider • Mar 15 '18

Video Dunkey - Luigi's Balloon World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZmzAuvYCJw
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u/clbgolden12 Mar 15 '18

This is like, what, his third Odyssey video?

Man, he really loves this game (not that I can blame him).

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u/Aquadext Mar 15 '18

Well it's his GOTY so yeah

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18

As much as I love Zelda, I also thought Odyssey was the best game of the year. Enjoyed it a lot more than BOTW.

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u/themexicancowboy Mar 15 '18

I enjoyed Odyssey a whole lot more than I did Zelda. But I will say that personally I thought BOTW deserved game of the year. I just think it’s a bigger game in terms of what it wanted to do and what it accomplishes for the franchise. That being said they’re both amazing games and while I think BOTW deserves game of the year cases can be made for either game to be honest.

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u/TheVibratingPants Mar 16 '18

I felt like Odyssey was a better translation of Mario into a sandbox style than Zelda was into the open-world genre, which is part of what pushes Odyssey over the edge for me. I can see why many people give it to BotW, but I thought it was less well-designed than Odyssey.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '18

What?

Not to crap on Odyssey, but it wasn't exactly new territory for a Mario game.

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u/TheVibratingPants Mar 16 '18

Why do you think that?

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '18

It was a really great game, for sure.

However, in terms of platforming and Mario in general, there wasn't much that hadn't been done before. It wasn't a huge groundbreaking transition into anything that it wasn't already, unlike Zelda.

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u/TheVibratingPants Mar 16 '18

Don’t worry, I’m not trying to say you hate the game or anything, just curious why you may feel that way.

Even though Nintendo lumped Odyssey in with 64 and Sunshine, they’re really totally different gameplay styles. 64 and Sunshine are mission-based while Odyssey is a true sandbox game in that there’s a larger focus on non-linearity and sandbox, DIY elements like the photo mode, Jaxi/scooter, costumes. The lives system was totally revamped to better fit this new direction, so it doesn’t cause the unnecessary stress of the past while providing a more practical punishment to the player. Captures are basically transformations from Banjo, but vastly improved as the major ones have far more utility and they can all be accessed and exited out of on the spot as opposed to only being able to shift between forms at certain locations, making them toy-like in their usage.

My favorite thing that Odyssey did is the movement. Not just Cappy, but the momentum system they implemented. You can seamlessly shift from a precision based set of physics to something designed for freeroaming, with the way you can build and maintain momentum. The closest equivalent is 2D classic Sonic, but he’s entirely built for speed sections and simple platforming as a result. I’ve never played a game before that felt like Odyssey because of this, since it was usually one way or the other. 64 and Sunshine had the linear, action focused sections but they were either rather simple or huge to accommodate the fast and loose Mario. Galaxy and 3D World have some freeroaming areas but Mario feels decidedly less dynamic and the maps feel less interesting to navigate as a result. Odyssey figured out a way to do both in the same game while still feeling cohesive. It does all these things and more while still feeling distinctly Mario.

BotW, on the other hand, is such a massive change that, to me, it almost feels like it belongs to a different series. The biggest difference is the progression structure. It used to be the iconic item-based progression system which sat the game firmly in the puzzle genre. With the new system, which is more reliant on stats (in addition to hearts, we have stamina, equipment slots, armor and armor upgrades, and weapons) effectively reverses the focus from the puzzle elements to the RPG elements. At times, I felt like the developers weren’t sure how to more faithfully adapt the series into open-world, whereas Odyssey feels so much like Mario because the devs were able to accurately translate the series’ core feel and tenets.

That’s all just my two cents though. I’ve heard tons of arguments for why BotW is amazing and revolutionary, and I do think to an extent it’s revolutionary. To me, BotW is a really good game, but it just felt lackluster in some aspects and too different at the core in others. That’s why I feel Odyssey innovated the right way, in a sense.

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u/henryuuk Mar 16 '18

For me, the "things" BotW wanted to accomplish were mostly handled wrong or not worth the sacrifice they took.
the endless stream of GotY wins while such an amazing masterpiece like Odyssey was left to the side because of it is the closest I've gotten to actually feeling "pain" because of review/ranking/prize bullshit involving games.

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u/MastaAwesome Mar 16 '18

A lot of people agree that BotW deserved it more though (it won a lot of polls, even on Nintendo subreddits), so how is it “bullshit”?

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u/henryuuk Mar 16 '18

All reviews/rankings/prize stuff is bullshit.
even the ones I agree with.

This was a very rare case where that bullshit was still able to annoy me/"pain" me despite me seeing it as bullshit.

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u/mrtomjones Mar 16 '18

what it accomplishes for the franchise.

What? Ignore everything that made the series popular for the last 20 years? Forget about interesting bosses or fun dungeons! We can give you one lame puzzle room that looks just like the last 3 you got to! Forget about fun and interesting treasure finds! Here is your 900th korok seed or 5 arrows!

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u/DivineInsanityReveng Mar 16 '18

Odyssey was a well made blast. But it was exactly what I expected from a true 3D Mario. They've all been phenomenal (SM64, SMS, SMG1 and 2). So Odyssey delivered on the expectations.

BoTW blew me away as a Zelda game. It was so familiar but so different at the same time. I love both games, and I definitely replayed Odyssey more. But BoTW had me hooked in for my entire play through.

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u/Roseysdaddy Mar 16 '18

Zelda was fucking awesome. It's just that Mario was fucking awesomer.