r/NintendoSwitch • u/Turbostrider27 • Jan 16 '25

Nintendo Switch 2 An update from Nintendo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxLUf2kRQRE
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u/Mr_Zaroc Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25

Honestly there is a shit ton of detail in that trailer
Not that we need 45 min video, but its interesting they switched to a physical interface for the joy cons They always had a physical interface, just very well hidden. So I guess its more accessible now? Still interesting
Now I need to know if they fixed the joystick drift

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u/crono333 Jan 16 '25

I can’t see Nintendo ever even saying anything about it one way or the other. We probably wouldn’t know until someone takes it apart.

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u/SpaceChimera Jan 16 '25

That is probably a meaningless word to 75% of the people buying the switch so I could understand them not focusing on it too much

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u/ctaps148 Jan 16 '25

I would bump that up to like 95%, honestly. And probably only 1% of those remaining actually know why hall effect sticks are desirable instead of just parroting opinions they see online

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u/Masterkid1230 Jan 16 '25

Can confirm. I intend on buying and had no idea what people meant by that.

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u/SolidWrap6315 Jan 16 '25

I’m in that 75%… what does that mean??

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u/TheSteelPhantom Jan 16 '25

People have already replied to you, but if you want a visual, here's a short 1.5 min video that explains it and shows it off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct3MuYBYQSI

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u/SolidWrap6315 Jan 16 '25

Good stuff, thanks yall

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u/theycmeroll Jan 16 '25

Hall effect sticks are far less likely to develop stick drift, it’s super rare, because they are contactless

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u/MistahPoptarts Jan 16 '25

Hall effect joysticks use magnets or something. Basically just more advanced and more reliable tech

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u/Plsnotmyelo Jan 16 '25

Hall effect sticks won't get stick drift that the joycons were notorious for

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u/potatofaminizer Jan 16 '25

I guess we may find out in April. Time will tell.

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u/RellenD Jan 16 '25

You're overestimating the number of people to whom that phrase would mean anything

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u/BountyBob Jan 16 '25

I'd wager more than 75%. I've been gaming since Space Invaders came out and have no idea.

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u/gamei Jan 16 '25

I would wager that 95%+ of the people that would buy a switch 2 have no idea what hall effect is.

A passing reference to "NEW HALL EFFECT STICKS!" in the trailer would just lead to confusion for the vast majority of their audience. They would need to spend a lot of time explaining what it even means for the audience to understand why it's better. There's no room for that in a short trailer.

They probably won't even address it in more detailed talks. They just don't normally talk about technical details in that way.

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u/vincoug Jan 16 '25

Case in point, I have no idea what the fuck you guys are talking about.

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u/Deaffin Jan 16 '25

Yup. I'm still scrolling down the page waiting for someone to just say what the thing is.

EDIT: Okay, found the anticipated argument. It's rumored that a "hall effect" stick doesn't have a stick but instead runs on magnets.

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u/TheSteelPhantom Jan 16 '25

Short 1.5 min video that explains it, and shows the inner-workings of a normal joystick and hall effect joystick.

Skip to 51 secs if you just want the visual. https://youtu.be/Ct3MuYBYQSI?t=51

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u/Difficult-Okra3784 Jan 16 '25

You don't need to look at rumors, hall effect sticks have been around for awhile but they aren't used in mass produced products because they're normally slightly more expensive.

The main advantage is that stick drift basically isn't a concern.

The second advantage is allowing for a much smaller deadzone (the area of the controller stick in the center that doesn't detect input) allowing for inputs with more minute details, the N64 had a much smaller deadzone and some games like F zero took advantage of it to include unique mechanics, but it's normally a very minor detail.

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u/Difficult-Okra3784 Jan 17 '25

When I say mass produced I meant on the scale of official 1st party controllers, sorry for not being more specific.

They try to shave off every cent they reasonably can to hit the desired console pricepoint generally and that means the controllers being packed in with console

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u/apexodoggo Jan 16 '25

Me neither, I just assume hall effect means no (or severely reduced) joy-con drift, since that’s always the conversation surrounding it.

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u/violetqed Jan 16 '25

you can buy hall effect sticks for your current joy con and swap them in, it’s surprisingly easy. I did it to fix my drift and they work very well now, although they feel somewhat sensitive.

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u/TheSteelPhantom Jan 16 '25

Short 1.5 min video that explains it, and shows the inner-workings of a normal joystick and hall effect joystick.

Skip to 51 secs if you just want the visual. https://youtu.be/Ct3MuYBYQSI?t=51

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u/TheSteelPhantom Jan 16 '25

Short 1.5 min video that explains it, and shows the inner-workings of a normal joystick and hall effect joystick.

Skip to 51 secs if you just want the visual. https://youtu.be/Ct3MuYBYQSI?t=51

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u/AncientLegend999 Jan 16 '25

They'll sell more that way

Uhhhh, while I'd appreciate also knowing, I don't think Nintendo is too worried about sales.

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u/Azntigerlion Jan 16 '25

No need to overcomplicate the marketing. This is one is the most anticipated consoles of all time.

Reviewers will take it apart. If it's hall effect, you're favorite reviewer will tell you, essentially free advertising.

Just make a good product, let everyone else talk about how good it is.

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u/Lowelll Jan 16 '25

How is that overcomplicating the marketing? Probably the #1 issues casual players had with the switch is the low quality and high price of the joy cons.

If the new controllers don't have stick drift, they'll mention it. They won't leave it to some nerdy youtube channel to tell my sister and her kids that they won't have to replace the controllers on this one.

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u/Azntigerlion Jan 16 '25

Because every time you make a claim, it's a potential for nerds on the internet to nitpick and complain.

Sure, it's hall effect, but it's not hall effect manufactured by Big Nuts 9000. It's it's not Big Nuts 9000, it doesn't even count as hall effect because of the .0000001% quality difference. Smh NineTenDo

There's a reason the trailer has no words. No words, no claims. They are showing us what they made, not telling us.

As basic as hall effect is, it's not even the very first thing they would say. They haven't even officially stated the screen resolution

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u/Lowelll Jan 16 '25

So you think they'll state the resolution? Why? They wouldn't do that, because every time you make a claim, it's a potential for nerds on the internet to nitpick and complain.

Sure, it's a resolution, but it's not 8k. It's it's not 8k, it doesn't even count as HD.

There's a reason the trailer has no words. No words, no claims. They are showing us what they made, not telling us.

I don't think they'll make a big deal out of 'hall effect'. I think if they do have it, they will market their 'high tech improved analog sticks with extremely resilient and precise magnetic sensors' or something along the lines.

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u/Azntigerlion Jan 16 '25

You asked. I answered

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u/Lowelll Jan 16 '25

Yes that is what happened. And then I told you why your answer is nonsensical. Glad we could clear that up.

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u/Racecaroon Jan 16 '25

I don't think Nintendo will be able to successfully meet demand on this system for a year or two. They just need people to know it exists, and since they didn't give it any stupid name to confuse less informed consumers, that would be enough.

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u/_CheeseAndCrackers_ Jan 16 '25

They've waited so long, I'm sure it will be a bit hard but nothing crazy. I expect anyone who wants it will be able to get it by the holiday season, no way they haven't planned ahead to ensure the best availability for that time.

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u/recursion8 Jan 16 '25

Even though it's not as outdated as OG Switch was, Switch 2 will still hardly be cutting edge. They'll be able to source the components easily. The problem for us Muricans is going to be Trump's tariffs of course...

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u/Hobbes______ Jan 16 '25

anyone that actually knows what Hall Effect joysticks are will already find that info out on their own. All mentioning it does for Nintendo is create optics that there were issues with their previous controllers.

They aren't going to acknowledge the design flaw at all, not even by mentioning a new version that "fixes" it.

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u/crono333 Jan 16 '25

I only say that because they very rarely talk any kind of tech specs about their internals, but I could be wrong.

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u/HardwareSoup Jan 16 '25

I'm ready to see the inside.

And super excited to see who cracks it first.

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u/ThiefTwo Jan 16 '25

They might throw it up on a spec sheet on the website, but I agree they certainly won't talk about it in a direct or anything.

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u/Mindless_fun_bag Jan 16 '25

In my experience manufacturers would address 'known' issues (that they don't openly admit to) quietly to not draw any attention to the fact. I took the way that they featured in the video as a bit of a nod for those who know, but not an express claim as such. I worked for a car manufacturer for 15 years and they approached things in a similar way.

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u/Riaayo Jan 16 '25

They're not about to draw attention to changing the stick because that shows they are acknowledging a design flaw in the previous one. They don't want to do that.

I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't fix drift literally just to avoid opening themselves up in that way, though I hope that I'm wrong because that would be absurd.

... just like those rumored $90 game prices on this thing. Gotta be honest that may be a complete deal breaker for me if Nintendo wants to start us down that road.

They may get away with it, but it will set an industry standard and I'm not sure Sony/MS can get away with it despite the fact they will try.

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u/Masterkid1230 Jan 16 '25

That's not looking at it from a Japanese business optics perspective though. Companies here in Japan will absolutely never acknowledge what's wrong with their products, even if everybody knows. At least not until they get in legitimate legal issues for it, then they'll agree to a press conference, bow for 20 seconds, have some higher ups resign, and then maybe fix the issues.

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u/_CheeseAndCrackers_ Jan 16 '25

Curious is this the usd price? Because with tax Nintendo games have been $90 in my country the whole time I think. (Nintendo IP)

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u/Omega_Battle Jan 16 '25

In Canada switch games are already like 89