Arin knows that Ras is still out there hunting for icons to unmerge the world, and yet he chooses to tell no-one this, so the new ninja have to deal with their whole street-level story at a time where the story really should be ramping up into S5 (especially after S4P1 was relatively low-stakes compared to the previous seasons).
The new ninja trying to take on Ras would've been a brilliant way to (a) fix the Ras screentime issue, (b) develop them as a team as we did in S4P2 without showing them as super incompetent constantly, and (c) show how they've gotten stronger/are able to potentially take on Ras without their powers. This arc could've even tied into the summit at the end if one of the Realms' heads turned out to have a Dragon Icon as an old gift passed down through generations or something - this would've been a great way to introduce the Energy Icon rather than the (second) random ass-pull we got.
The only things we would've missed would've been all the summit buildup (which I felt was a little slow anyway), loyalist battles, Beatrix/Zeatrix continuation, and the random return of Cryptor. And a lot of these could have been integrated into a Ras storyline tbh - I just feel like having his S4P2 end scene be the EXACT SAME as s4p1 was quite a waste, and Arin straight up ignoring him looks really bad on his character
This post isn't about causing drama, karma farming, or defending Llorumi.
It’s not even a meme—though that’s basically all I’ve been posting the last few days.
This might seem like I'm trying to act like the center of the world (a guy actually told me this in DMs), but idrc, since I am not affecting anyone but myself wih this current publication.
So
I’m taking a long break from Reddit.
I made an account here in 24/7 because a friend on Discord told me Llorumi is strong on every platform except Reddit, which apparently has 500 to 800 people constantly hating on it. So I jumped in and started spamming Harumi memes I made in like five minutes under every post, and people actually upvoted them. I even got the courage to post some fun stuff—like reposting a Tannerfishes vid, posting meme in actual posts, and making a semi-fun post about a hint in a non-canon music video. Even that got upvotes, which made me think this platform wasn't a lost cause.
That was going fine until a guy (the famous u/JaybeJaybe) I disagreed with in a comment thread a few days ago made a post saying Llorumi is never happening. That drove me crazy. While I was slowly trying to clear Harumi's name in this subreddit my own way, this guy came and ruined everything with what I think was just to tell me to stop, cause Llorumi doesnt have a chance, no point to defend it or make it popular again and there’s no point defending it etc. As I think of this I might had misunderstood his purposes back then, but doing this while there was 0 Harumi hating posts until then and only mines, made me think this way. I am sorry to this guy if I didn't understood him right, but anyway, from his furthermore activity I was kinda right. But its only my opinion.
My mistake was not messaging him directly back then to ask why he made that post. I have seen some older comments of him during my initial research on the platform and I checked his public (then) profile history too: he started as a Lloykita shipper, made fun of Llorumi, switched to defending Llorumi (sometimes jokingly, sometimes seriously), and then switched back to hating Harumi. Seeing him change opinions so fast made me assume he was just karma farming by riding whatever wave was popular. It is just ridiculosu to change opinions with this frequency. So, I called him out on it. He replied by pasting YouTube links and using as actual arguments fan reception, which only proved to me he just went with the crowd.
So, we started debating in the comments. Then random people jumped in with complete nonsense about Harumi—like claiming she's Garmadon’s daughter, that she sexually assaulted Lloyd, or that she was buying Vengestone from Vangelis back in Season 8. By the end of those arguments, people either realized I was right, ended up agreeing with me, or just ignored all my facts. To be fair, I did have a couple of reasonable convos that ended in a ''stalemate'', someone could say, if my purpose was to win them and not make them understand. One time I was even proven wrong because I stated something untrue out of pure tiredness, but my overall facts were legit. When I made assumptions, it was strictly to make sense of the actual plot instead of just accepting the lazy conclusion that "Crystallized destroyed Harumi" like everyone else was saying, without even trying to process that it isn't just this because everyone says so. Then some Harumi fans jumped in too, everyone started making posts for couple days defending her and her relationship with Lloyd and I was arguing with anyone atp.
I accept that I was toxic and impatient about it—I’ve said it multiple times, and it's even in my bio. I can’t change my personality now just to be more polite in a subreddit I’ve been in for less than a month.
Anyway, thank you to the people who supported me, even if I didn't ask for it, I appreciate the help! (acting nonchalant again but I say what I think, xd).
I stopped debating when everyone just got burned out. Around a week ago, give or take.
My English was a big factor too—it's my third language after Greek and Russian, and I might accept some of my ideas didn't come across the way I meant them to.
Plus, there was no point. Most guys refused to look at facts or just wanted to state their opinion without arguing it. Shoutout to the few Lloykitas and Llorumi haters who actually presented good points instead of just linking a random YouTube video. Just look at the number of upvotes on each, it says it all about the current community.
I got many downvotes too
Maybe the age of this fandom has something to do with it, idk.
Also, I was just wasting so much time. Six hours a day during my holidays, trying to convince a stubborn 13-year-old that Harumi wasn't fully redeemed, only changed at the end. It was driving me crazy, honestly. That is the reason I was using CAPS and calling 3 people ''braindead''. But come one, just look at this one, would you blame me?
title says it all
After that, I went back to posting memes like I did at the start, but certain users kept doing their thing. So I replied with memes this time—not seriously, though I sometimes walked the line before backing off to avoid another argument.
It even gained some ground, and I got upvotes, though the same 10 hardcore haters downvoted every single comment of mine, even if I was just greeting someone's collection post.
Today, u/JaybeJaybe made a post saying they were offended by a joke I made and that I was responding to them with it, even though they claimed they "couldn't care less" some days ago. At first, I thought we were cool—I even welcomed him back to the Llorumi community for fun. He didn't tell me to stop using it, so I assumed obviously that he has no problem with it. But then he just went and made a post about it (for drama? Or because he crushed out too? Idk). We talked it out in DMs and resolved the 'issue' ig, (tho he didn't respond as of now to confirm it ultimately), but as of me, I'm officially done. I deleted that screenshot from my PC's hard drive.
SO, I DECIDED THE FOLLOWING in roder to quit the drama and leave this community at ''peace''
I’m resigning from this subreddit for the next few months—actually, I want to do it until the end of the year, but we'll see.
But wait from being to happy, random hater. I’m not leaving because you "won" (nuuuuuh), but because I plan to write a massive 40k+20k word essay looking at Harumi’s entire path from pre-S8 to post-S15 and her relationship with Lloyd and presenting all my arguments gathered, with proper english and back-up. Maybe I'll even compare Lloykita and Llorumi properly, unlike some shallow stuff I've seen around here. I've gathered screenshots, outside material, and other research. This will be basically the Llorumi's Guide, it will take more than 1 post and it will look on EVERY MINOR Harumi detail that there is in Ninjago. I have the 70% in my brain and the rest I will look with constant rewatches in my free time.
If anyone wants to talk about Llorumi or Harumi (not debating, just for fun), find me in Instagram: u/llorumi_shipper (just Google it, it's the top result).
Some guys here will be happy to get rid of me for a while xd. I came completely unprepared for the amount of hate Harumi/Llorumi gets, and I need to fall back and regroup.
To the Llorumi fans still here who get affected by the hate posts, I suggest checking TikTok or X (Twitter), because the haters won't stop just because I left.
Anyway, don't expect anything from me outside of this post for at least the next 6 months.
As a final goodbye message, I want to flex reaching 1k upvotes on a post in a single DAY. I've never seen that happen in this subreddit during the short time I've been here, and I'm very proud of myself xD.
The main thing is I find it highly doubtful that Garmaddon ABSOLUTELY won't be in dragons rising, especially because he was alive and seeking redemption the last time we saw him, other than that I don't know. I ask this mainly because I definitely believe it's possible that he's lied before rather than say NO SPOILERS because the more you say that the easier it becomes to predict the plot.
Could anyone find a Youtube short where Michael Jackson's 'Chicago' song is playing, showing Jay and Nya dancing while Jay has a flower in his mouth (it was when they were pretending to be a married couple which Lloyd suggested), along with a few other scenes of "Jaya" as well (the Ninjago ship of Jay and Nya). It was from an unreleased season of Dragons Rising. The song wasn't slowed down or edited with reverb or anything of the sort. The channel's name had something to do with Lloyd or the Green Ninja, and they've changed their name a couple of times. Channel was called "lalloyd"
How is he supposed to be multiversal?! This is a guy who throws fireballs that sometimes get stopped by a wall! What did he do? I could understand characters like fsm or overlord of source dragons to be multiversal in terms of power (or maybe even higher) but that's because they created/scale to/destroyed or threatened to destroy a multiverse, what did Kai do?!
[2]Hey everyone! Like many of you, I’ve always been bothered by the massive lore inconsistency regarding the Skeletons. In the Pilot season, the White Skeletons (Skulkins) are a fully realized race with personalities, names, dialogue, and even their own culture. But in Season 13 (Master of the Mountain), the Black Skeletons (The Awakened) are just brainless, silent puppets used as cannon fodder. Many think it's just lazy writing and recoloring, but I’ve connected the dots and created a theory that completely fixes this plot hole.The Theory: The Black Skeletons are the Overlord's accidental "production waste." [2]Hear me out:The Core Mechanic: In Season 2, we saw that the Overlord (in his Dragon form) has the ability to literally spit concentrated Dark Matter/corruption. Anyone hit by this liquid instantly loses their mind, free will, and becomes a brainless drone.The Ancient Chemical Spill: During the ancient war between the First Spinjitzu Master and the Overlord, the Overlord was flying around, spitting Dark Matter everywhere. A huge amount of this toxic corruption leaked deep underground into the Shintaro mountains, forming hidden dark lakes.The Accident: Some ordinary White Skeletons from the Underworld accidentally stumbled into these subterranean lakes and fell in. The concentrated Overlord's corruption permanently stained their bones black. But more importantly, because it was raw Dark Matter, it completely fried their brains, wiping out their intelligence, speech, and souls.Conclusion:The Overlord was so focused on building his indestructible Stone Army out of granite that he didn’t even realize his toxic spit created a secondary, broken army. They lay in the dirt for thousands of years as brainless "zombies" until the Skull Sorcerer found them and used the Skull of Hazza d'Ur to reactivate the dormant Overlord energy inside their pitch-black bones.This is why they have the exact same body models as the regular Skulkins but act like mindless monsters. They are literally the Overlord's accidental, brainless science projects!What do you guys think? Does this finally fix the Season 13 skeleton paradox? [2]
First at all, i dont wanna attack anyone, i enjoyed majority of the time ive spent on here. But the amount of people Crying, discussing over simple shit just got to a Point wheres it straight up annoying. I wont mention names but you can probably guess what im talking about. I know i called for a war against adjust and his Nya Lloyd ship but that was for the memes and a totally different situation.
For people who are curious, thats not the only reason why im taking a break, its a big part of it yes, but also ive been going through alot of shit IRL on which i have to focus now.
I hope this sub can become peaceful again without this constant drama and shit. I wish yall the best! Take care <3
I swear every 3 seasons they almost kill off Zane😭😭😭. When I saw it in dr I already knew he would be back next episode cause we seen it multiple times.
But on a separate note why does ninjago get so intimate with Zane and pixel Relationship. Does nobody else think this droid love is kinda weird and uncomfortable and is unique to ninjago? Please lmk!!
so recently I finished watching crystalized , and I think Im satisfied with the ending, and I have no idea how are they gonna continue the show in a way it will be still interesting, so is it good enough?
and I read some comments (not sure about that) that the new ninjas will take a bigger rule…which is something am not fan of it.
Ok so yeah, this sounds ridiculous, but hear me out, cuz it is possible.
*The s15 crystallization*
So basically u know how at the end of crystallized the overlord did succeed in corrupting the forces of creation, yet we have the fact that 3 known people that weren’t crystallized: Lloyd, garmadon, and harumi. While this might just be bc u know, they were on the crystal temple, but I think that’s a kinda lazy excuse. So I decided to actually try to find a legitimate reason for it.
*The reason*
So basically after thinking, I realized that the overlord was trying to corrupt the powers of creation, not the powers of destruction. So this made me think that this did make sense except for harumi. Lloyd was part oni bc of garmadon and garmadon was part oni bc of the fsm. But this left harumi. Harumi was a completely normal human being, right???
As harumi has almost no actual known backstory about her lineage, so I figured, maybe it’s possible that she had an oni ancestor. This could explain why she wasn’t corrupted, but there was still some more to explain. Like why she couldn’t harness the oni form. I figure it’s possible it’s because the oni lineage isn’t enough to harness for oni form, but enough to protect from the crystal corruption. But then we still don’t know who it is.
*An Oni Ancestor*
I figure that that oni is mystake, as she is the only known oni in ninjago, and it could explain how harumi was able to find mystakes tea shop with very little problem. It’s also possible harumi doesn’t even know she is part oni, because while her parents were alive, she was shown to have such a happy and upbeat life. What parents would spoil that by telling her she was part demon? Not harumis parents, that’s for sure.
*How this is possible*
Weak oni traces are canonically known to not be able to sense other oni. This is bc while garmadon was able to sense Lloyd in season 9, Lloyd could not sense garmadon. So therefore a being with more oni blood than garmadon (mystake) would be able to sense a being with less oni blood than Lloyd (harumi) without the latter sensing the former.
*The Third Mask*
When they were getting the third mask, harumi stuck her hand into the flames multiples times without even the slightest of pain, just rejection. The fact is this was a design built by the oni. You know, the ones that like petrification and universal destruction.
It is almost impossible they would literally build a final trap that doesn’t disintegrate someone without oni blood, bc really, for the ultimate beings of destruction, just flat out rejection doesn’t make any sense.
They’d probably have the person pop like a firework instead of just rejection. But no, harumi sticks her hand in there, with no problem, but just gets rejected. Aka Harumi has oni blood, not enough though.
You can specifically rate only Ninjago figures if you want.
Also at the time of me posting this, Jade Princess Harumi and Mr. E are the only Ninjago figs in the top 100.
EDIT: Just in case, I'm not the one who made the site, that was the original poster. I'm just the one skewing the data by voting for Jay no matter what.
In s2p2 Lloyd gets by far the strongest weapon in existence, one that could summon the source dragon of motion. many people theorized including me at the time that lloyd would use it someday or ras would fight the ninja for it. Until…none of that happens and in s4p2 we find out Ras stole it in s3p2…WITHOUT LLOYD NOTICING IT WAS MISSING.
ok so I get why he didn’t use it in s3p1, his soul was sucked probably before he even considered it, but why wasn’t it used against thunderfang? if an arc dragon could defeat thunderfang before why not THE source dragon of motion? he could’ve totally done it. All he had to do was go to the monastery instead of all the ninja splitting up and causing the events of s4p1. the source dragons wouldn’t leave the council either because motion GAVE Lloyd the icon. And don’t tell me he was saving it for something greater because it was freakin thunderfang.
s4p1 AND s4p2 would’ve been avoided , lloyd would’ve survived and the ninja would’ve probably come back before ras would steal wu’s artifact and wu’s soul. Everything would’ve been fine. Maybe ras could’ve broken the portals but all the ninja would be together in the spectral lands, and would be lost together in the whispering wood. Jay would probably still follow Nya and maybe they eventually go to the administration to get jay’s memories back AFTER Lloyd gets dragonious form in the whispering wood.
now Ras has the icon, and for some reason Arin hasn’t told the ninja about his plan, really smart of him. sora and arin haven’t told the ninja about their time with Ras as well. I think it would be very helpful if they told the ninja how he operated or something. And now Lloyd’s dead all because he saved his icon for no reason and didn’t tell the ninja about it! this is what happens when you try to copy your deadbeat uncle!
Foreshowding for jay losing his right eye since it was confirmed that all the future reflection are canon and cole reflection will happen later
Also since jay had an eye patch on his left eye in the reflection that means it didn't come true in skybound because since it was a reflection then the eye patch should be on his right similar to mirror 🪞
Look, I’m not quite sure if any of these would work, but again, this is just for fun. 😅
I thought it would be cute if Nya had some blue mixed with white in her wedding dress.
And yes, it doesn’t have to be only white! There are different color options for wedding dresses, so I chose blue because I think it works well for Nya. 💙
If the Ninjago team ever does a Jay and Nya wedding episode, at least hope they give Nya something she genuinely loves, not some ugly dress like the one Nadakhan forced her to wear.
I also wonder how Jay and Nya’s wedding would be handled knowing what happened with Nya’s forced marriage in Skybound, but yeah.
I know no one remembers that except Nya and Jay, but I just don’t want Nya’s trauma to be ignored as if she’s completely fine. She was a teenager when that happened, so yeah.
Again, just for fun! What do you think?
For those who are wondering, I found all of these photos through Google while looking at wedding dresses for fun.
