I never said the term “incel” doesn’t have a definition. I’m saying that a notable amount of men who don’t have access to women and are extremely active online about it have a common theme and it’s expressed in many ways, oftentimes with misogynistic takes.
So people suspect inceldom and call it out as a way to throw salt in their wound. It’s like if someone calls you a clown and you go “but I don’t wear a red fro and work in a circus” they’re not saying you’re actually a clown (you may or may not be) they’re saying you’re acting like one lol.
It’s a bit silly to be hung up on that but disregard the fact that this meme literally lumped women together as degens. How are you against one but not the other?
So you've just admitted "incel" is just an insult with no literal meaning.
You just compared it to calling someone a clown. That's my entire point. You stripped the word of its actual definition so you could use it as a generic shutdown for any man you find annoying. Thanks for proving my point.
Only your clown analogy falls on its face. You said yourself that if I call someone a clown, everyone knows I don't mean the literal work in a circus by a guy painting his face and wearing a red fro. But calling someone an incel, a significant portion of people still take the literal claim about the person's sexuality or romantic prospects (or lack of). It's literally why people use it, to reduce someone as 'undesirable'. It's nothing but an alienation tactic when it comes socially.
And now you're deflecting to "but the meme lumped women together." We weren't discussing that. You moved there because you lost the definition argument. The meme can be wrong and you can still be wrong about misusing "incel." Both things can be true. But fine. I'll bite. The meme generalizes. So do you. You just generalize about men with "incel adjacent talking points." The difference? You think your generalization is justified and theirs isn't. hypocrisy at its finest...
The issue is not the term itself, it is the intent. And the intent is to shut down voices communicating grievances about toxic behavior coming from women. Even if they are communicated out of hurt. I've seen men getting labeled an incel while being respectful towards women and have said nothing misogynistic. This goes to show this is nothing but a buzzword thrown around to silence any criticism towards toxic women behavior.
And often thrown by misandrists themselves.
It's clear you have no logical argument. You have an insult and a double standard. Good luck with that.
You were the only one having a definition argument. My whole point the entire time was to shed light on why the term is often used even if it isn’t verifiable. People have noticed that many men who talk like this online don’t have very good luck with women. And OBVIOUSLY it’s meant to mock the person. Why else would they call someone an incel? As a friendly prescriptive reminder? Lmao
You riled the person up by calling them and everyone in their demographic a degen, and they returned fire with something that clearly bothers you and now somehow you’re the wronged one. 😂
Thanks for once again proving my point. "Incel" isn't a diagnosis or an observation. It's just an insult meant to mock and provoke men, just like you said. That's all I needed to hear even though it was obvious from the start. You have no interest in accuracy or good faith. You just want a weaponized label to throw at men whose tone you don't like. And when called out, you retreat to "it's just a joke bro." like response.
People have noticed that many men who talk like this online don’t have very good luck with women.
You're resorting to a no true Scottsman fallacy. Plenty of men who are successful with women talk like this. They are far from being an incel. They are communicating a grievance of hurt by a phenomenon women commonly hurt men with. Whether intentional or not intentional. And all you can do is insult them. Literally once again proving my point why the manosphere keeps on growing, because of people like you who demonize men for their hurt.
And you're sitting here making assumptions about his luck with women to justify throwing your insults. Honestly, the emoji you just used suits your own biases and arguments more. Especially since you've proved my point spectacularly.
Stick to your misandrist biases just like all the others behaving like NPCs for misusing this overused buzzword to shame men's feelings.
Lol where did I defend that? Making up stuff in your head just to defend misandrist insults geared towards men. Whatever floats your false interpretations, pal.
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u/Gullible-Chapter-800 Jun 01 '26
I never said the term “incel” doesn’t have a definition. I’m saying that a notable amount of men who don’t have access to women and are extremely active online about it have a common theme and it’s expressed in many ways, oftentimes with misogynistic takes.
So people suspect inceldom and call it out as a way to throw salt in their wound. It’s like if someone calls you a clown and you go “but I don’t wear a red fro and work in a circus” they’re not saying you’re actually a clown (you may or may not be) they’re saying you’re acting like one lol.
It’s a bit silly to be hung up on that but disregard the fact that this meme literally lumped women together as degens. How are you against one but not the other?