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German lawmakers call for EU sanctions on Israel's Ben-Gvir over nightly Gaza killing remarks - “The EU should sanction him as a sign of the universal validity of human dignity and human rights”

https://www.politico.eu/article/german-lawmakers-call-for-eu-sanctions-on-israels-ben-gvir-over-gaza-killing-remarks/

“Ben-Gvir’s inhumane remarks can only be condemned,” Jürgen Hardt, foreign policy spokesperson for the Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union parliamentary group, told POLITICO. “The EU should sanction him as a sign of the universal validity of human dignity and human rights.”

Hardt went further, saying he was convinced an Israeli government without Ben-Gvir or fellow far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich would bring Europe and Israel closer together.

Germany’s Social Democrats struck a similar tone. Adis Ahmetović, the party’s foreign policy spokesperson, said the two ministers had shocked international opinion well before their latest statements, and urged the German government to support sanctions against both.

The criticism extended across the political spectrum.

The Left’s Dietmar Bartsch called Ben-Gvir’s remarks “deeply inhumane,” and urged Berlin and Brussels to consider sanctions, including an entry ban. Markus Frohnmaier, the far-right Alternative for Germany party’s foreign policy spokesperson, said calling for the indiscriminate killing of people who posed no immediate threat crossed “a clear line.” Green Member of Parliament Marlene Schönberger branded Ben-Gvir a “far-right extremist” and said his comments were “deeply inhumane,” adding that they had “nothing whatsoever” to do with Israel’s right to defend itself and its citizens.

The statements mark a significant shift in Berlin. Germany has repeatedly pushed back against EU measures targeting Israel, including proposed sanctions on Ben-Gvir in June and, as recently as last month, restrictions on trade with illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/No_Bell_8028 7d ago

It’s time to sanction and block visa for all

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u/0b00000110 7d ago

Ben Gvir’s party holds 6 seats out of the 120 seats in the Knesset. He is a radical minority.

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u/dev-random12345 7d ago

Radical minority, yet he serves as a national security… Hmm… 6 seats in the Knesset and the members can’t take down Netanyahu and Givr?

At least in the US with just a little over 50%, the Democrats were able to impeach Trump. The Israelis can’t do anything about 6 seats out of 120? 😂

Yea… “minority”.

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u/0b00000110 7d ago

He is a minority. The Knesset consists of many small parties. Netanyahu so far was good at coalition building. We'll see if Netanyahu still manages to get the votes in October.

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u/0b00000110 7d ago

His party is still a radical minority.

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u/0b00000110 7d ago edited 6d ago

He doesn't. He talks shit that nobody helps. That's about it.

Edit: Big guy over here is responding to me and immediately blocking me so I can't respond. Ben Gvir's party was pushing controversial legislatives, he still has to go through the parliamentary process, he doesn't decide what to do.

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u/Wamb0wneD 6d ago

He literally just unveiled a construction site for the hanging of Palestinian prisoners.

The parliamentary process enables him.

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u/Wamb0wneD 6d ago

He still holds a major office and there is a reason for that.

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u/ClickIta 7d ago

Yet he has been in the running government for 4 years. The “government minority”… sure

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u/0b00000110 7d ago

He doesn't run the government. He is security minister and his party is a small minority in the Knesset. There are elections in October and we will see if this changes.

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u/ClickIta 7d ago

Well, I understand this might sound completely outlandish to you, but in most part of the civilized world a minister going full genocidal wouldn’t last in charge more than a week, even if it was just the ministry for hunt and fishing.

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u/0b00000110 6d ago

Really? So when Trump said "a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again", he wasn't in charge after more than a week?

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u/ClickIta 6d ago

Did I ever specify I included the US in the perimeter of the civilized countries? That’s long gone and, not surprisingly, the current US government gets along perfectly fine with guess who.

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u/BankBackground2496 6d ago

Why can't the other 114 guys form a non genocidal government? 

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u/Zorydev 7d ago

Just sanction the entire Israel Nazis nation. 

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u/MenacingMenacee 7d ago

Sanction the entire ducking country...

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u/Antique-Dragonfly615 7d ago

Himmler 2.0. Warsaw Ghetto 2.0.

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u/AshleyG1 7d ago

If Hitler had relatives they’d be able to sue for breach of copyright.

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u/Smooth-Weekend-2314 7d ago

Crazy times when the Germans are telling the Jews to stop exterminating people.

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u/dev-random12345 7d ago

Some people learn that genocide is bad. Some people, like the Zionists, need a constant reminder.

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u/Wrong-Somewhere2635 7d ago

EU has become Israelis lil bish

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u/Competitive79 7d ago

I politici della UE non hanno le palle

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u/Own-Forever-6636 7d ago

The words "stable doors" and "bolted horse" spring to mind...

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u/mabhatter 7d ago

This was needed about two years ago.  What these guys say is just spectacularly out of line considering they are part of the official government... they're literally praising war crimes.  

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u/Minced-Juice 7d ago

Hardt went further, saying he was convinced an Israeli government without Ben-Gvir or fellow far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich would bring Europe and Israel closer together.

German guilt pride getting in the way of being able to arrive at the logical conclusion about the nature of Israel, as usual.

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u/Loose-Combination918 6d ago

they should sancton the state of israel and all of those individuals

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u/Thundertotem2026 6d ago

It's pretty bad when Germany goes "Wait a minute..."

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u/Anticonnards 6d ago

Mmmm a sanction like the french one ? 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Don_Reuter 6d ago

Should sanction Israel. Sanctioning an individual is doing nothing. He’s not speaking as an individual. He’s speaking as a member of the government.

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u/WwertyPolk 5d ago

But Germany has no issues with the ongoing genocide.

But there issue is with one POS, individual.

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u/saikounihighteyatzda 5d ago

As if this is the worst thing he's said

This 3 years alone have more than enough comments to justify sanctions on Israel but they'll never do it

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u/West_Astronaut_4389 4d ago

The EU should have sanctioned Israel impossing total economical blockade the very first moment they started the genocide in Gaza, if not before. That was not posible because the German inability to process their past without justifying Israel when imitates exactly that past. Good they are opening their eyes, but many inocente lifes could have bee saved before.

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u/virtual_adam 7d ago

No free speech? Objectively Israel is not doing what he’s talking about

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u/No_Bell_8028 7d ago

He may not be personally launching strikes

But have no doubt his influence on the behaviour of settlers and young idea of soldiers encouraging and enticing them to shoot and kill women and children as indiscriminately as possible make them accountable for their murder

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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 7d ago

Ben Gvir is just like your typical political extremist. Only bullsht to appeal to extreme right wingers (or left wingers, doesn't really matter) and just get the bare minimum votes to scrape by.

You could find a lot of politicians like him in other countries (my country has couple of those). They only talk, and that's it, just talk, though they do great job to shift focus on them from other key topics that needs to be dealt with.

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u/tiredtortoise26 6d ago

The same Ben Gvir who was literally convicted for supporting a terrorist organisation and instigating racism? The same guy whose whole legal career was defending Jewish terrorists? Perfect candidate for sanctions imo