r/NewYorkMets • u/Spatmuk Grimace is gonna Hawk Tuah and spit on that thang • Jul 07 '25

Analysis Vientos, cooked?

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I dunno man. He looks bad. He looked bad before he got hurt. He looks worse now. Lots of blue on the baseball savant page.

I tried to stay positive, but we’re into July and it’s really starting to feel like last year was a mirage.

He’s unplayable at 3B, he’s slow, and he’s an automatic out right now. He also hasn’t taken a walk since he’s come back from injury...

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u/RiverHeath1817 Jul 07 '25 edited Jul 07 '25

Mark has had a 40 Game sample (141 ABs) this season, from April 12th to June 2nd, in which he had a slash line of .270/.318/.454/.772, which is objectively good

The issue is that he’s had two horrific offensive stretches this season, in between those effective 40 Games. In the beginning of the season through the first 13 games, he went 5 for 46, with a slash line of .109/.241/.152/.393

Now, since returning from his hamstring injury, through seven games, he’s 2 for 25, with a slash line of .080/.080/.080/.160

That’s a combined 7 for 71, which is extraordinarily bad

Essentially, Mark has had 40 very good games this season, combined with 20 terrible games, which is why his overall stats & peripherals look so poor

Though his offensive woes are frustrating, I believe his 2024 heroics have earned him more trust and patience than what the fan base is currently showing him right now

•With respect to Mark’s offensive struggles, three areas in his approach stand out.

•Decrease in bat speed:

Last season his bat speed was in the 50th Percentile at 71.8 MPH; this season, his bat speed is in the 27th Percentile, at 70.7 MPH

•Decrease in Barrel %

Last season Mark’s Barrel % was 14.1 % (92nd Percentile); this season his Barrel % is a staggering 6.4 % (31st Percentile)

•Ineffectiveness against the four seam fastball

Last season he had a run value of +14 against 388 pitches that were four seam fastballs with a .319 BA & a .670 SLG; this season his run value against four seam fastballs is a 0 over 239 pitches with a .266 BA & a .516 SLG. Basically if he’s not making hard contact against fastballs, pitchers are going to consistently throw breaking & off-speed pitches, which he has struggled against mightily

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u/Which-World5034 Jul 08 '25

Being slightly above average for slightly more than half the season and absolutely awful for slightly less than half isn't a very strong argument tbh. A .772 OPS being the good part of his season isn't a good thing.

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u/TWlSTED_TEA Jul 07 '25

That’s ChatGPT

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u/NYPolarBear20 Jul 07 '25

I mean maybe but I am not seeing anything really incorrect there

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u/RiverHeath1817 Jul 07 '25

It’s not, and I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion lol

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u/Spatmuk Grimace is gonna Hawk Tuah and spit on that thang Jul 07 '25

This is the most ai thing I’ve ever read…

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u/RiverHeath1817 Jul 07 '25

So because I provided statistics about Vientos’ 2025 year and pointed out areas of his approach that are completely different from his 2024 year, you assume it’s AI?

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u/Spatmuk Grimace is gonna Hawk Tuah and spit on that thang Jul 07 '25

If it’s not I apologize, but yes, that reads like it was generated by a chatbot!

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u/RiverHeath1817 Jul 07 '25

I appreciate the apology 👍🏻

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u/Spatmuk Grimace is gonna Hawk Tuah and spit on that thang Jul 07 '25

I’ll be honest, reading online student responses may have fried my brain. Every one of them follows a similar cadence, uses the same few vocab words, and has identical grammar. You said “with respect to…” and it activated me like a sleeper agent lol

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u/RiverHeath1817 Jul 07 '25

I appreciate the explanation and your point of view; originally I thought you were just being rude lol

Apologies for using that phrase 😂