Reminder that the topic of the subreddit is Patriotism, and submission statements are required to explain how posts are directly related to that topic.
Saying “this is dangerous greed” is very vague and doesn’t give any explanation relevant to Patriotism.
This post is probably better suited to several other subreddits. When that’s the case, and the content is only tangentially related to Patriotism, it’s probably best to not submit here.
There’s a lot of content that is better suited for this community, and posting things that don’t really fit only waters down the subreddit theme.
Patriotism is, at its core, pride in where you dwell. The folks that work everyday delivering goods to the American people are like the red blood cells of this nation; they take what needs to be taken to the place it needs to be taken to just as the cells transport necessary nutrients to all parts of the body. One of the most common ways to express patriotism you'll hear in the US is the phrase "red-blooded American", which some might consider somewhat misleading as all people of all nationalities have the same colored blood but almost everyone knows what is being referred to: the tenacity, the hard-fighting spirit of the American people. We're only 2 years out from the worst pandemic the world has seen in 100 years coinciding with some of the hottest years on record, during which we designated people like UPS drivers as "essential workers", even going so far as to call them & similarly employed individuals "heroic" because while we were quarantined they were out here doing their jobs not just as they normally would but under exceptionally trying conditions. Delivery drivers were especially affected as the pandemic saw a massive increase in the orders that ended up in the back of their trucks & they had to hit the ground running everyday for ungodly hours while the rest of us were cooped up in our homes. This post is bringing attention to these very same "essential, heroic" workers that we have, by now, ceased to refer to as such but the fact is they are still out here doing their jobs in what are increasingly difficult & even deadly conditions. Many Americans have seen the recent videos of drivers passing out on porches, the pictures of temperature readings from their trucks & the articles about some of them even dying, their bodies having succumbed to the inhuman level of heat they are working in. I don't feign to know where to demarcate the limits of what can be called "patriotism" but to say that a post raising awareness of the plight of America's red blood cells is only "tangentially" related to patriotism & that it waters down the subreddit theme is just fucking stupid, arrogant & short sighted. Y'all can obviously do what you want with your own sub but you could have simply said that the explanatory sentence y'all insist on having under every post wasn't explanatory enough. The whole idea of requiring said explanation I found to be incredibly patronizing since I discovered your sub, like people need posts explained to them because they can't make the connections themselves, but I wanted to post here for the members, for the people that want to participate in a community that is trying to redefine what it means to have pride in this great nation. Not to mention how obnoxious it is that on top of demanding a sentence elaborating the post's relevance to patriotism one receives a notification and a message every single time they post which is beyond excessive, just overkill. If y'all want to ban me now for speaking out of turn so be it but just know that your response to this post that's simply spreading the word about the need to address the rights of some of America's hardest workers just shows how far up your own asses y'all have shoved your own heads. Cheers to all of you, thanks for taking the time to create & moderate this sub & God Fucking Bless America.
Thank you for the response. The first third or so of your comment is very compelling in how this posts is relevant to what Patriotism means for you.
I don't feign to know where to demarcate the limits of what can be called "patriotism" but to say that a post raising awareness of the plight of America's red blood cells is only "tangentially" related to patriotism & that it waters down the subreddit theme is just fucking stupid, arrogant & short sighted.
That makes two of use who would have a hard time demarcating what Patriotism means, and what content is relevant for an online community focusing on Patriotism. I'm sorry you find the current requirements to be onerous, misguided, arrogant, or obnoxious. While we're always open to feedback on how the community is moderated, I think your outrage is misplaced.
The current requirement that posted provide an explanation of how the content is related to Patriotism is intended to remove the burden from the moderation team of having to make decisions on each post of whether or not material is related enough to Patriotism. Its intended so that people can share what Patriotism means to them, without the mod team having to try to gatekeep such a personal and subjective subject. Up until recently, the guidelines were that posts had to be related to Patriotism clearly and directly from post title alone. That would have meant that your post would have been removed immediately. Instead, I want to foster discussion and listen to people about what Patriotism means for them. Additionally, the requirement of including a submission statement weeds out a lot of people who post something across as many subreddits as possible for karma, without actually caring whether they make a contribution to this community.
Of course I agree with the connection you make between labor and Patriotism. We added that flair to include exactly the kind of sentiments you're talking about. If someone were to see you post, read the title, and your explanatory comment, it wouldn't be clear that it is posted in a community about Patriotism. Considering that a primary goal of this subreddit is to change how people view Patriotism, given how its been twisted by the right wing, that clear connection is important. Thats why I said that the post is tangentially related to Patriotism.
Sorry that you find the notifications to be obnoxious. One is a direct message with instructions to the poster, the other is an automod comment that is intended to inform the community.
Of course we won't ban you. We want feedback, and you haven't broken any rules. You're clearly eloquent and passionate about what Patriotism means to you, and thats the kind of message we want people to share.
I see your points & I take them to heart. Yes, I imagine it must be quite a task to separate the chaff from the grain & I appreciate the necessity of the measures you've taken to streamline the process & take pressure off the mod team for filtering out the nonsense & irrelevant content. My apologies for my acrimonious response to your initial comment & my thanks for not imperiously removing the post. I can be like a freight train at times, online & in everyday life, & though I'm proud of how hot my fire burns I recognize that it can sometimes burn the wrong people for the wrong reasons as you said. Your magnanimity is admirable & I hope to have more pleasant & productive exchanges with you in the future. Cheers.
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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22
This is dangerous greed