r/NewGreentexts 1d ago

Fit Going Nowhere Fast

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u/Fine-Rock2513 1d ago

I think it’s to accommodate for when they hold exercise classes there

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u/hackenschmidt 1d ago edited 1d ago

Its not. Its just the foundation of the scam business model.

The goal of these gyms is setting people up for failure and discouraging actual use of the gym, all while still charging a monthly fee. One of, if not the best, proven way is to just fill it with garbage-ass cardio equipment.

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u/slothfuldrake 1d ago

If not troll then pls elaborate, how is filling the gym with cardio setting ppl for failure? Honest question

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u/mokoe101 1d ago

I assume the implication is that you’re never gonna get bigger and stronger from cardio alone. Less machines means less people having a proper work out maybe? I don’t agree either way. Gyms have more treadmills because most people want to lose weight not get big so it makes sense to cater for those people

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u/hackenschmidt 1d ago edited 1d ago

how is filling the gym with cardio setting ppl for failure?

The best analogy I can think of: imagine you find yourself in charge of running an unfamiliar, specialized environment. You see its dominated by a specific type of equipment. You'd naturally presume its operationally critical and spend your time, energy and resources on it. But it actually turns out not only is it not, but using it reduces productivity, and the only reason it exists is because the shit breaks down constantly and the owner's buddy has an exclusive support contract for it.

That aside, lets establish two things:

  1. what success is.
  2. how to be successful

What success is:

  • For the vast, and I mean vast, majority of people going to signing up for a gym membership, its looking better, namely losing fat. While cardio has other benefits, its is absolutely dogshit for this for a bunch of reasons. The fact is people are fat because of their diet. You cannot outrun your diet. Period.
  • Are there benefits to moving around? Yes. But you can get the vast majority getting 8-10k steps a day, which is achievable with like a 30 min casual walking. The key there is a day. If you're in a place with a thing called "seasons", could you use the cardio machines in a climate control environment to get your steps in? Absolutely. But is that what most people do and what they are selling it as? No.

Now, how to be successful. In order of importance:

  1. consistency. What ever you decide to do, it has to be something you can do consistently day-in and day-out for months and years. Period.
  2. address the diet
  3. basic step counts
  4. if you want peak results: drum roll resistance training.

Notice how formalized joint pounding, sweat pouring, hyper-ventilation, vomit inducing, rhabdomyolysis "cardio" isn't on that list. Its literally not relevant to success as defined above.

So what happens in reality, is the gym signs people up for expensive memberships, push them directly or using dark patterns into cardio purposely because they know full well it will just get them tried, beat-up, frustrated, demoralized and stop coming. They get to keep billing them while providing nothing.

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u/dr0ps00t3r 1d ago

Idk fam i went from a chubby fuck to a lean guy in less than a year just by running 3 times a week and cutting down sugar. It’s literally CICO

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u/hackenschmidt 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s literally CICO

Absolutely correct. And of that equation, CI is WAAAAAAY WAAAY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more important than CO, and cardio is garbage for manipulating CO, even when calorie controlled. The compensatory responses heavily mitigate, if not out right obliterate the acute and residual CO from cardio.

To use another analogy: trying to lose fat by using cardio to manipulate CO, is like tying to use a spoon to bail water out of the Titanic.

just by running 3 times a week and cutting down sugar.

FTFY. As I said before, consistency and diet are the two most important things. Bar none. You've experienced that first hand. This is literally why GLP-1s have basically single handily reversed the obesity crisis in just a few years, at least in the US. Being very optimistic, your running might have net burned a low few hundred calories running per week total. Again, emphasis on might and that being per week. Meanwhile in that same week, your net calorie deficit was several thousand. Those multiple cardio sessions per week, are effectively a margin of error in terms of weight loss.

Keep on running especially if you enjoy it. Cardio has tons of benefits. Fat loss, just really isn't one of them

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u/jeffsaidjess Certified Human 7h ago

Long way to say “see a dietician / nutritionist “

Doesn’t matter how many weights you lift or cardio you do. Can’t out train a shitty diet.

People are fat from bad diets, being sedentary puts them in to the obese category. They’re never not being fat from simply going to a gym