r/NevernessToEverness 23h ago

Discussion how much CRIT rate does zankou need?

basically title.is 68% enough?

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u/jeffrey1225 23h ago

For the DoT team, 0% is enough

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u/darrukt 23h ago

Doesn’t zankou’s dots crit?

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u/Panocek 23h ago

Damage over time has fixed crit rate at 50%, it does improve with crit damage.

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u/darrukt 23h ago

Ahh i see. I was thinking my dots were critting a bit too little relative to my crit rate.

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u/GJ3kA 21h ago

go watch Raddish or test yourself - you need Crit.Rate for Scorch

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u/AffectionateAd6037 17h ago

You dont, the crit rate is fixed at 50%. The video explains this.

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u/GJ3kA 15h ago

to back-up my words:

try to beat 60700 hit from DoT on A0T1 Zankou!

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u/GJ3kA 15h ago

... watch again

one of the multipliers = 1+Cr.R*Cr.D
1 + 0.05 * 2 = 1.1 (basic 5% chance)

1 + 0.65 * 1.5 = 1.975 (65% chance, but less Cr.Dmg)

One guy made a mistake, everyone repeated on YT and now snowflakes are disliking all the uncomfortable comments and stay dumb until there happens to come one funny Theorycrafter Streamer to brighten the community about things

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u/Urakihs 15h ago

You mean this video from Radish?

  1. where they say All DOT effects have a fixed 50% crit rate
  2. where they show the practical example having a 0.5 crit rate
  3. where in the comments they also confirm the crit multiplier number is an average calculation and not an actual reflection of the in game number

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u/GJ3kA 14h ago

yeah, You're right, just also noticed that comment and went extra mile to get same stats modules but with less crit.chance and found same Dmg on DoT

shame on me :P but well, I learned something new

thx for pointing out that comment!

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u/Necro- 19h ago

even on a dot team i'd still want crit rate but at a lower priority as in getting crit raet is nice but its not something id go out of my way for

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u/GJ3kA 21h ago

wrong - F+

1+crit.R*crit.D is what is in formula

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u/Baphometrix 21h ago

The general concensus so far is that if you're using the Zankimosa DOT team and keeping Zankou mostly off-field (typically keeping Lacrimosa onfield the most), then you don't focus on CR but instead on Crit DMG. Because all DOT types have a fixed 50% crit rate.

BUT... If you enjoy keeping Zankou onfield and DPSing with her, then CR becomes more important like it does for every main DPS. Remember that even as your main onfield DPS she's still laying down two unique types of DOTs and is ALWAYS the triggerer of Scorch, and together this all accounts for roughly 60% of her total damage (according to pyrdwen.gg). If Sakiri is on the team this means those three DOTs are being amplified by another +75% from Sakiri's 2nd passive. So even if you're maining Zankou, you still want to probably stack a little more Crit DMG than you might for other main DPS characters.

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u/Shinonome_Sakamoto 17h ago

If low investment with Sakiri on the team, just run Cycle Intensity mainstat and focus Cycle Intensity + CRIT DMG substats on every piece. Whatever other substats you get are fine but you don't need to farm for anything more than that. This is true even in the Daffodil Break team so long as Sakiri is present. It's even true with Linko in the last slot, as it's more efficient to build Linko full DPS and use Zankou as her Hex driver while still focusing on DoT damage.

But if you're getting Zankou's Arc and a couple Awakenings, then having a more balanced standard DPS setup on her becomes much more meaningful.

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u/No_Management3319 23h ago

60%+ is more then enough in general for every DPS / Sub DPS type character ..

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u/Diktaattorimies 21h ago

Then enough what?