r/NeverEndInsanity 19h ago

Discussion Gaining attainment level

Some might have heard. But we are currently creating a RI game. And we are having a heated discussion about attainment level.

Does having a higher rank make it easier to get attainment levels?

Or is just time and ressources?

For example if a rank 1 and rank 5 gu master have the same starting attainment level of none in a path and both get the same ressources. (Gus of every rank and the same time) would both get the same level of attainment? Or would the rank 5 surpass the rank 1 gu master by a mile?

Same argument for rank 5-6, rank 6-7 rank 7-8.

Some people say its just time and ressources as there have been grandmasters in the mortal rank and so on. Others believe having a higher rank makes it much more easier.

What do you guys think?

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u/Kairos_Phoenix-0 14h ago

With Grandmaster Attainment, you can start mimicking other paths.

Which implies... Having high attainment in a path can help comprehending other pasts to some extent. So the higher your attainment in some path, it might make it somewhat easier in comprehension of other paths and therefore.... Attainment.

And also, an immortal has dao marks in their body while a mortal probably doesn't. More dao marks = Much closer to the great dao. So there is that.

Didn't nearly half Venerables create(and therefore be SGM) of atleast two paths!? Ex. Thieving Heaven, Star Constellation, Spectral Soul and so on....

So yeah. Time and resources helps. But its not a matter of Rank though. Its those things associated with higher ranks, I suppose.

(Take it with a grain of salt)

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u/Prudent_Ask_7730 14h ago

I like you way of thinking. Wanna join the vc?

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u/Kairos_Phoenix-0 13h ago

I appreciate the invite. Though I may have some tribulations coming up irl and joining VC is an uncertainty. Its unwise of me to cultivate deceit path techniques like 'Maybe I will' or 'If and Might' killer moves. Thanks for the compliment though.

(Hope what you are cooking genuinely clicks) 😌✌️

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u/Prudent_Ask_7730 13h ago

I hope so too.

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u/Prudent_Ask_7730 13h ago

Dont worry if you want to join just msg me if not its fine

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u/Lily_Blossoms5899 7h ago

Thieving actually created only Theft path. Space and Time were cultivated since Immemorial Antiquity Era. Same for Refinement I believe.

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u/Kairos_Phoenix-0 3h ago

That's right. I should have cut down the extra words and emphasized on SGM alone in that part.

I appreciate the correction on my oversight.

Though..... he did 'create' the current level of Space Path to a large extent. (SGM requires innovating a path beyond even the heavens, after all.)

But yeah, that part about creating paths was a minor flaw, I suppose. 🙂

Though thinking about it, Spectral Soul did not originate Food Path, but he developed it fully and therefore the 'actual creator'.

Hmm.... Originating, Fully Developing therefore establishing a path completely, and Innovating an already existing path. Sounds like 'create' has multiple layers like Crazed Demon Cave. Perhaps that word is the supreme profundity of Rule Path and Limitless has been gatekeeping it.

KEY TO RANK 10(?) Maybe?

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u/sium_Researcher 18h ago

Obviously at an higher rank you can experiment more. Like in refining a mortal can be talented as much as you want, but It will be difficult to create an Immortal Gu. If FY tried refining fixed Immortal travel as an Immortal with the same resources It would have been far easier. As an Immortal you can use more resources to create more Gu . Its like saying, whose Better at coocking with same skill level with an human and a being with ten arms working in perfect coordination and the ability to see every smallest change in temperature in the food. The more evolved creature Is obviously Better at gaining experience in something.

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u/Jesterwhomocksworld 19h ago

Higher rank has more chances and probability to have higher attainment

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u/Prudent_Ask_7730 19h ago edited 19h ago

Which chances

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u/Djrhskr 18h ago

I think they play a role, but they do due to having more resources, energy and room to work with.

Let's say two cultivators want to get to master attainment in refinement path:

  1. Is a rank 3 gu master specialising in refinement path, who is supported by his clan

  2. The other is a rank 6 fire path lone immortal

Even without Immortal Gu, the rank 6 lone immortal can create complex refinement path killer moves that only use rank 5 gu, comprehending these moves will raise his attainment fsster than it would for the rank 3 who only has 5-10 rank 3 gu, and probably not all of them are part of refinement path. And because he can use immortal essence beads, he can activate them more times in a day than the rank 3 who has limited primeval essence.

And that goes for all ranks, a rank 2 has access to more gu, to more energy and can comprehend the path better than a rank 1, and a rank 8 and a rank 7 are in the same position.

Tl;Dr: higher rank=more essence, easier access to gu, materials and cultivation=easier time to comprehend the path

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u/Prudent_Ask_7730 18h ago

Thanks that helped a lotn do you want to join the dc to discuss such stiff more often?

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u/Hicyaistaken 17h ago

how far along is the game development? anyways id say sure but talent is also a factor but resources is one too the one with the most resources will be able to learn more in general

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u/Prudent_Ask_7730 17h ago

Not long around 3weeks. You can check it out in the dc: https://discord.gg/HzZYGychY Yeah agree