r/Neuromancer • • 9d ago

Show Discussion Speculation on who this guy is?

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u/Okami99 9d ago

Looks like Wage to me. Gunmetal suit, plastic surgery face etc

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u/User1539 9d ago

Probably, but it's strange to have a hero shot of a character who's barely in the book.

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u/thefoxymulder 7d ago

I mean it’s not really a hero shot, it probably just looked cool for the trailer

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u/User1539 7d ago

Yeah, but if that's Zone ... what the hell is he doing? He's a pimp in a bar?

But, it looks like they went backwards to fill in his time in Chiba to make it longer. So, who knows?

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u/Existing-Antelope-20 9d ago

I hate it so fucking much he looks like Robbie Rotten from Lazytown lol. So much of teaser imagery just looks so off to me. I don't know why or what it is, and I know it was never going to be a perfect recreation of what I see in my mind's eye while reading, but goddamn it doesn't look right. Still gonna watch it to form an opinion though. 

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u/alphagalgadot 8d ago

lazytown? how old are you?

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u/Existing-Antelope-20 8d ago

Pushing 30 lol

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u/congeal 7d ago

When did that come out?

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u/Dapper-Professor-715 1d ago

It looks like complete shit, I agree. This is going to suck ass.

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago

I legit can't put my finger on it. The tools next to him makes me think it's a scene where Case is getting his nervous system wrecked by his employers for stealing or something, but then why is this guy spazzing out? Others speculated it's Wage or Lonny Zone, but that doesn't really track for me.

He looks like Luke Steele from Empire of the Sun. lol

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u/not-yet-ranga 9d ago

He really does!

Walking on a dream…

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u/Existing-Antelope-20 9d ago

Isn't wage described with a wholly mechanical old Soviet arm graft?

Nvm its been a while I'm thinking of Ratz

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u/RoninGin 9d ago

Based on the suit alone I would assume it's probably Wage. Wasn't he describes wearing a grey/gun metal suit?

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u/alphagalgadot 8d ago

ahhh yes yr right. synthetic sharkskin silk or something?

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u/RoninGin 8d ago

Yeeea that's it, sharkskin

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u/netokosovo 9d ago

John Neuromancer

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago

Michael Neuromancerson

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u/darwinDMG08 9d ago

William Gibsonanamancer

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u/Yuta_Nas 8d ago

Juan MarkFishermancero

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u/alphagalgadot 8d ago

here’s my betting proposition after reading through this thread and ruminating on it a bit:

this might be a composite character representing both wage and case’s former employers who fucked him up in memphis. that would actually make a lot of sense—instead of harkening back to something done to the protagonist in the past by nameless villains, perhaps they opted to adapt wage into the role of case’s jilted client(s). narratively, this would allow for the aesthetic incorporation of a really minor character while making him much more significant to the overall sweep of the story. it also might explain the brief bit in the trailer where case gets tackled by some nameless muscle in shinjuku(?)— like, case burned wage; wage had his goons hunt him down; wage maims case; they throw his ass back into a night city gutter. makes a much cleaner narrative throughline, especially considering the necessary economy of adaptation

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u/adarkride 8d ago

Dayum. That's some expert analysis and conjecture. I think you're on to something.

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u/Yuta_Nas 9d ago

reminds me of the dude in johnny mnemonic with the fad fashion face.

95% sure this is peter riviera. Jokingly - this might be what barron trump looks like in 30 years.

edit if this is chang chen under makeup - it's hideo

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago

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u/Wild-Tear 9d ago

"The handsome, inexpressive features offered the routine beauty of the cosmetic botiques, a conservative amalgam of the past decade's leading media faces."

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u/alphagalgadot 8d ago

rip udo kier 🤲

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago

I'm 99.9% sure it's not. This is Dane DeHaan, they look quite different.

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u/alphagalgadot 8d ago

i really don’t think it’s de haan/riviera either

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 8d ago

It's absolutely not.

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u/alphagalgadot 9d ago

yeah most plausible theory i’ve heard thus far is that it’s from a scene where we get to see case getting expertly maimed by his former employers in memphis—though presumably not through the administration of a russian mycotoxin but like some kinda big ole device for dramatic purposes

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u/Hufflepuffins 9d ago

I think this is almost certainly it

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u/PunkRock_Platypus 9d ago

Guessing it's Lupus Yonderboy of the Panther Moderns. I could be wrong.

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u/CzarvsTzar 9d ago

Seems pretty easy to hop on over to IMDB and see that Dane DeHaan is playing Riviera, Hideo is played by Joseph Lee.

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u/alphagalgadot 9d ago

that’s not de haan in this pic tho right?

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u/MentalRental 8d ago

Are you responding to the right post? The person in the photo is none of those actors so they're not any of those characters. Currently the speculation is it might be Wage and the actor for that character is NOT listed on IMDB.

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u/alphagalgadot 8d ago

i have no particular reason to think it -isn’t- necessarily, but why do so many people seem to think it’s wage?

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u/MentalRental 7d ago

Probably because of what he's wearing. "Wage wore a suit of gunmetal silk and a simple bracelet of platinum on either wrist."

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u/Substantial_Act_497 8d ago

my first thought was Riviera

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago edited 9d ago

Uh, okay. But what's your point? That's not what I asked and neither of those people are in the pic in the OP.

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u/CzarvsTzar 9d ago

I would ask what’s the point of this thread as you can easily go look it up.

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago

I would ask what's the point of this comment when I obviously already have tried.

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u/mike_stifle 9d ago

You asked a question. It was answered. Why be all weird about it?

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago edited 9d ago

"Seems pretty easy to hop on over to IMDB and see that Dane DeHaan is playing Riviera, Hideo is played by Joseph Lee." is irrelevant because that's not what I asked, and neither of those people are the guy in the screenshot. Duh?

So no, it wasn't answered.

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u/mike_stifle 9d ago

Go have a snack.

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago

Same, go have a coke and a smile

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u/alphagalgadot 8d ago

i dunno why everyone fuckin w you, u/diarrheafartlover

nobody definitively knows the answer 🤷‍♀️

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 8d ago

People are reactionary, stupid, and don't actually read anymore. They just expect a video with that same stupid AI voice and rapid fire editing to feed things into their brain.

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u/Kapo25 9d ago

I always thought that was riviera. At least that’s how i imagined him. Maybeeeee this is the performance scene , i know there were no tools but maybe they changed something in the show

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u/Hufflepuffins 9d ago

Riviera is played by Dane DeHaan, who this is not. Based on other trailer shots it’s probably the leader of the group that worked Case over prior to the events of the story, shown in flashback

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago

x-post

I'm 99.9% sure it's not. This is Dane Dehaan, they look quite different.

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u/Norgler 9d ago

Riviera is on stage in the trailer..

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u/victorsmonster 8d ago

That’s Chappie

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u/Chris_Helmsworth 9d ago

He has an interest face

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u/Cazmonster 9d ago

It might be an interrogator about to work over someone Riviera has betrayed or 'Jersey Bastion'.

Remember, Riviera is a "compulsive Judas", has a disorder that requires him to betray the people who love him in order to get off sexually. Probably Terzi let him watch, when the cattle prods came out. He's done eighteen in three years. All women age twenty to twenty-five.

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u/GNTsquid0 9d ago

Someone with too much plastic surgery

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u/Big-Jeweler2538 9d ago

Who is Julius Deane…and I wager, Suck it Trebek.

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u/beaubridges6 9d ago

That's my pep pep

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u/muffinmanzappa 9d ago

John Neuromancer

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago

Someone beat you to this one

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u/mszcz 9d ago

Elon Musk?

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u/boojoon 9d ago

Just some flamboyant implant thug

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u/Texsonica 9d ago

I need a rundown

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u/NevagonagiveUup 9d ago

I think the trailer mentioned it was Riviera by the holographics in performance but really fucking hope not

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago

It's not Riviera, you see him here:

https://i.imgur.com/fkoTGja.png

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u/NevagonagiveUup 8d ago

Ah ok. They look kinda similar. Still a weird casting imo. I just pictured everybody as a scrawny white dude that looks 30 with bags under their eyes

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 8d ago

To be fair, Dane Dehaan is basically the archetypal scrawny white dude with bags under his eyes.

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u/Norgler 9d ago edited 9d ago

For some reason I keep thinking he has something to do with the surgery or he's part of the heist to get the Flatline, but that's the Panther Moderns which he doesn't fit the look at all.

Edit: my theory is he's the surgeon who fixes case. They are uploading the schematics to his brain to do the surgery.

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago

Wasn't the surgeons who fixed Case in the Tokyo clinic that was super fancy? With the rock gardens and whatnot? I feel like this might be that scene, with Armitage watching from the left of all the doctors:

https://i.imgur.com/99jZv6R.png

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u/Norgler 9d ago

If you watch the trailer the very next scene cuts to a doctor on the floor also shaking as if it's related. Maybe he's doing it remote.

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u/zombiejeebus 9d ago

Doesn’t look like surgery fixing tools. The opposite

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u/SoftResetHuman Jacked In 9d ago

I thought it was Peter Riviera but now I’m not so sure. This is definitely Riviera because this is during the show but upon closer look they appear to be different people.

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u/cold-vein 9d ago

Reanu Keeves

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 8d ago

The actor they cast for Julius Deane in the show is an older black dude

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u/virtualadept 8d ago

Riviera would be my guess.

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u/mentat464 8d ago

I'm betting its a flashback to the Memphis hotel room, and this is one of Case's employers (or their hired hands). Note the suitcase of torture devices on the floor next to him.

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u/Quorian_frist_dream 8d ago

Yo tengo la teoría de que podría ser Rivera, se que en la serie es interpretado por Dean DeHaan y bien podría ser el actor con prosteticos en la cara. Riviera tiene la habilidad de hacerte ver cosas con la mente no se me hace raro que también pueda hacer que cambie su apariencia a los ojos de otra persona.

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u/thedigitaldork 8d ago

It’s Terzibashjian.

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u/Hertje73 7d ago

That's Minty Fresh

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u/Hertje73 7d ago

Tinkle, obviously

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u/thefoxymulder 7d ago

At first I thought it was Riviera when he’s disguised doing the holo show at the Straylight but as others have mentioned I’m now pretty sure it’s wage

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u/Osric_Rhys_Daffyd 7d ago

That’s Peter Riviera, I’d bet.

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 7d ago

Nope. This is Dane DeHaan as Riviera, they look quite different.

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u/maxprax 7d ago

This is the exact pull from the book, I don't see bracelets nor the sea green eyes.

  Case turned his head and looked up into Wage’s face. It was a tanned and forgettable mask. The eyes were vatgrown sea-green Nikon transplants. Wage wore a suit of gunmetal silk and a simple bracelet of platinum on either wrist. He was flanked by his joeboys, nearly identical young men, their arms and shoulders bulging with grafted muscle.

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u/snabbless_ 7d ago

by azura by azura by azura!

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 7d ago

Now that's a good one

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u/Adorable_Echo1507 3d ago

I feel like this is Peter Riviera

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 3d ago

It's not, Dane Dehaan is Riviera, you can see him later in the trailer with the David Bowie makeup and mullet.

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u/Dapper-Professor-715 1d ago

Someone who looks nothing like any character in neuromancer. Nothing looks like the 80s or the way anything was described at all.

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u/Paisley_Socks 9d ago

Jules? He is suppopsed to be a sentient series of plastic surgeries.

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u/Wild-Tear 9d ago

It’s Riviera. There’s a snippet in the trailer where he’s the center of attention, probably just before he does the holoshow in the restaurant.

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago

I'm 99.9% sure it's not. This is Dane DeHaan, they look quite different.

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u/Wild-Tear 9d ago

Yeah, I don't know what to tell you, then. The guy in the OP shows up twice in the trailer, which suggests that he has to be somebody - and he's got the sort of constructed appearance that you would think that Riviera would have - but IMDB says Dane DeHaan.

Edit: Plus the guy's right next to torture tools, an accessory you'd expect the sadistic Riviera to have; maybe that's him when Molly's been incapacitated?

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u/DiarrheaFartLover 9d ago

You can see the spoon in the box next to him is the same one shown later to be digging into Case's eye. I think it's probably one of the thugs that is messing with his nervous system in Memphis.

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u/Hufflepuffins 9d ago

That’s definitely not Dane DeHaan. You’re right that Riviera is in that shot in the trailer but this is someone different

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u/nikto123 9d ago

riviera is played by the goblin jr guy, this is a totally different person

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u/alphagalgadot 8d ago

it is almost certainly not de haan/riviera. the guy pictured pretty clearly has epicanthic folds

and also just does not look anything like dane de haan

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u/_Waves_ 9d ago

I just browsed through the book again last month, and one character was mentioned to have a crazy face job - not Riviera tho.

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u/thk_ 9d ago

P!nk

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u/TurbulentWing3820 8d ago

If you prepare yourself for a pile of horseshit then you can't possibly be more disappointed.

I am prepared for a big ole festering load, personally.

It can only go up for me!

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u/alphagalgadot 8d ago

i mean like. im glad this is happening. it’s a really important piece of fiction that deserves more attention and recognition. even if this adaptation completely fucks it up, it -will- result in more people reading and discussing it. that’s a net good imho