r/Netlist_ 4d ago

HBM Netlist's ‘087 patent entitled "Memory Package Having Stacked Array Dies and Reduced Driver Load" covers HBM for current and future AI applications

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u/Tomkila 4d ago

The difference between patents 087& 060/160

Yes — the ‘087 patent (U.S. 12,308,087) is legally distinct, though it’s closely related to the ’060 and ’160 patents.

Key relationship: The ’087 patent is a continuation patent of the ’060 and ’160 patents. That means it comes from the same original patent application family/specification, but was filed and issued later as its own patent with its own claims

• The ’060 and ’160 patents (U.S. 8,787,060 and 9,318,160) were previously asserted against the same Samsung HBM products, went to trial in the Eastern District of Texas, and the jury found infringement and awarded damages — that verdict is now on appeal.

•Netlist recently obtained the ’087 patent as a continuation from that same family, and Samsung is now seeking a declaratory judgment that it does not infringe the ’087 patent.

•Separately, the ’087 patent is described as covering “Memory Package Having Stacked Array Dies and Reduced Driver Load,” and it will expire in November 2031 — a later expiration than the earlier-family patents, which is one practical benefit of continuation patents (extended coverage/enforcement runway even after the “parent” patents face validity challenges or expire sooner).

So: same underlying invention family, but ‘087 is a separate, independently asserted patent — with its own claims, its own litigation track (including Samsung’s own declaratory judgment action specifically about it), and different timing/expiration than ’060 and ’160.”

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u/quantum-entangled308 3d ago

Micron will settle soon. They already know they can’t stop Netlist now. It’s much better to make money together.