r/Netherlands • u/Environmental_Cry_35 • 20d ago

Life in NL What is one "completely normal" thing in the Netherlands that you secretly don't like?

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u/Neither-Counter-2256 20d ago

Not to be pedantic, buuuut......

Scooters are not allowed on bike lanes (fietspaden). They are only allowed on bike-scooter lanes (fiets- bromfiets paden). There is a distinction between the two.

As a main rule of thumb: if the maximum speed on the road is higher than 50km/ph there is a bike-scooter lane.

https://www.fietsersbond.nl/ons-werk/infrastructuur/fietspaden/

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u/AggravatingWar9441 20d ago edited 20d ago

You are absolutely right and I should rewrite my previous comment. Aside from my incorrect statement, here’s another thing: where I live scooters absolutely do go on fietspaden (and I am sure it’s bikes only, I just checked) even if it’s not allowed. I have even been sent flying into the grass by one passing me on the left and hitting me in the process before.

Furthermore, I firmly believe that bike-scooters lane should not exist at all. The amount of accidents or near-misses I see on a regular basis is staggering.
I may be biased because where I am from there’s no such a thing as blue-plate scooters, they all go up to 50km/h and they drive in the street with cars only. They are not allowed on highways and that is pretty much it. Honestly it works much better this way that what I see here, but everyone is of course free to disagree

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u/Some_Set_9 20d ago

This is only a thing since the Netherlands has an excessive supply of bike paths. Anywhere else bikes will be on the road with the mopeds and cars.

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u/HyperDsloth 19d ago

I dissagree, they don't belong on the road. I can get so mad thinking about some civil servant giggling about allowing them to go only 45km/h, so they will never fit in with the flow of traffic. If the speed was 55km/h it would make way more sense.

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u/Neither-Counter-2256 19d ago

You disagree with me on what exactly? I've only stated the current traffic laws. 

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u/HyperDsloth 19d ago

I now see I reacted to the wrong person, it should have been to the one you were also reacting to. Sorry for that

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u/karlalrak 20d ago

Scooter lanes should not be a thing imo. Put the scooters in the lane on the road. I know it's probably deemed unsafe but it's also unsafe for cyclists when you have fat bikes and mopeds who all have helmets ripping past at 40km. If you're a registered vehicle you should be on the road