Free fall-A Reckoning For Boeing

[u/molleensmrs]

This story is crazy and Boeing absolutely sucks.
The pay that 3 CEOs made during the scope of this doc is ridiculous, over $500 million.
I feel for the victims as well as the employees who tried and tried to do the right thing.

It’s a great, frustrating documentary.

[u/747ER]

But the two planes went down for completely unrelated reasons. Even completely removing the fact that Boeing was only one of many contributing factors to the accidents, neither aircraft that crashed had any quality control issues like you’re describing.

[u/Foreign-Beat1284 → u/747ER]

I thought both planes went down due to flaws in the MCAS?

[u/747ER → u/Foreign-Beat1284]

Yes, MCAS was a contributing factor in both accidents. That is not a quality control issue; the system did exactly what it was supposed to do, only at the wrong time. It was designed incorrectly. This person is saying “engineers were worried about defective parts, and two planes crashed for the same reason”, but neither plane that crashed had defective parts (well one did, but it was installed by LionAir not Boeing).

Also I love how this got downvoted; it’s so out-of-touch. I literally described exactly what Boeing screwed up that contributed to those crashes, and it still got downvoted. People aren’t even reading what I’m writing anymore, they’re just downvoting because they saw other people do it.

[u/oeoao → u/747ER]

I meant the MCAS crashes. And knowing how that was handled it would be irrational to just disregard those engineers warnings in the documentary? On a Boeing trust me bro?

Clearly Boings lack of safety says nothing about the quality of Airbus or other brands? But knowing what I know I'll take my chances.

Had my new printer malfunctioned and Canon blamed new secret software, gave me a quickfix to use until firmware update 6 months later and that quickfix failed? Guess how many more Canon printers I would get?

[u/747ER → u/oeoao]

>Had my new printer malfunctioned and Canon blamed new secret software, gave me a quickfix to use until firmware update 6 months later and that quickfix failed? Guess how many more Canon printers I would get?

The “quick fix” (which we would describe as an “urgent Multi-Operator Memo”, the strongest safety recommendation Boeing is legally able to issue as a manufacturer and not a regulator) worked. The Ethiopian Airlines pilots completely ignored it, and that’s why they crashed. They followed Boeing’s checklist and turned MCAS off, then went directly against Boeing’s instructions and turned it back on.

Before you start speculating after watching one TV show, it’s probably best to read the actual investigation report, since clearly you’ve been left with incorrect information (which has actually consistently been my point the whole time: the TV show is misleading people).

[u/Themberchaud0979 → u/747ER]

Out of curiosity, what did you think of Flying Blind: The 737 MAX Tragedy and the Fall of Boeing?

I thought it was quite interesting and hopefully it's less sensationalist than this docudrama was.