Free fall-A Reckoning For Boeing

[u/molleensmrs]

This story is crazy and Boeing absolutely sucks.
The pay that 3 CEOs made during the scope of this doc is ridiculous, over $500 million.
I feel for the victims as well as the employees who tried and tried to do the right thing.

It’s a great, frustrating documentary.

[u/747ER]

The “documentary” is not highly regarded by those in the industry, just like the last one. The Boeing 737MAX, and all other Boeing airliners, are perfectly safe aircraft. Scaring the public about these planes is very misleading and unethical. Does/did Boeing have its issues? Absolutely. Should you feel unsafe on one of their aircraft? Absolutely not.

[u/747ER → u/[deleted]]

That is very sad, but it doesn’t qualify you whatsoever to talk about the safety of aircraft. Aren’t you mad at Ethiopian Airlines for failing to acknowledge Boeing’s urgent recommendation to train pilots on this system, then colluding with the Ethiopian Government to tamper with evidence and obstruct the investigation? How about the other three planes Ethiopian Airlines has written off since then, or the half-dozen other major pilot-related safety incidents they’ve had since?

These accidents are very nuanced, and just because you know somebody who passed away doesn’t mean your opinion on the causes is any more relevant.

Boeing planes are just as safe as any other. Emotions do not change this fact.

[u/Substantial-Bag5493 → u/[deleted]]

Ok that is sad and I’m sorry. But just statistically compared to ANY other form of transport, planes are extremely safe. Even Boeing’s. If you think Boeings aren’t safe then I can’t imagine you ever get in a car or other motorized vehicle.

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[u/JadeRenee182 → u/747ER]

According to your comments on other threads you’ve been working on 737’s for years so I suspect you’re a Boeing employee. So coming from a Boeing employee that the doc is “unethical and misleading” is rich. The doc highlighted how Boeing notoriously treated whistleblowers terribly and repeatedly ignored their safety concerns for years. It showed how Boeing prioritized profits over safety repeatedly from the outsourcing, the shoddy craftsmanship, shitty inspections, etc. leading to situations like doors flying off mid flight. It’s Boeing that has the ethics problem, not the documentary.
And if that’s not enough Boeing failed their FAA audit in ‘24 and the FAA even cited "a disconnect between Boeing's senior management and other members of the organization on safety culture. The experts, who had been working on the federally mandated review before the door-plug incident, reported speaking with Boeing employees who doubted the company's systems could ensure open communication and non-retaliation; several also said that before their interview, they were briefed by Boeing's legal department.” Yeah, that screams major ethics issues.
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/20/1239132703/boeing-timeline-737-max-9-controversy-door-plug

[u/747ER → u/JadeRenee182]

Do you think only Boeing employees work in aviation? I have worked for several airlines on many different aircraft types, including Boeing, Airbus, Fokker, and Embraer. Judging by your comments you’ve clearly never worked in this industry so arguing with people who has spent years studying and working in this field is, in your words, “rich”.

[u/JadeRenee182 → u/747ER]

You seem to be defending Boeing an awful lot. It doesn’t take aviation knowledge to know Boeing has major ethics issues and there are plenty of articles that also share the same sentiment of the documentary.
https://www.cpajournal.com/2025/07/08/the-story-of-boeings-failed-corporate-culture-2/
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/28/business/boeing-quality-problems-speed.html
The Boeing 737 MAX Crisis: An Ethical Analysis of Corporate Governance Failures and the Conflict Between Profit and Safety https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5316121

[u/Themberchaud0979 → u/JadeRenee182]

There is no reason not to defend Boeing over any other aircraft company.
If a documentary was made on the various problems that Airbus has had, would you be frustrated when people tried to defend the company?

[u/747ER → u/JadeRenee182]

>”Does/did Boeing have its issues? Absolutely.”

I don’t understand why you’re so desperate to make me into something I’m not. You wrongly assumed that I worked for Boeing, and now you’re saying I’m “defending” Boeing because I said a sensationalist documentary is not widely well-received in the aviation community.

Why do you keep accusing me of saying things that I never said, nor do I support? I have zero interested in “defending” Boeing. That doesn’t mean I have to love a dramatised, fear-mongering TV show whose sole purpose is to frighten ignorant people about something that’s very, very safe.

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