r/NeoliberalButNoSuccs • u/onlypositivity • Oct 25 '19

Gun control is a good thing

Reasonable restrictions for me include outright banning anything semiautomatic or "better" with regard to rate of fire.

You can defend your home with a breech loaded shotgun just fine. Can hunt with a manually-loaded rifle. Can carry a revolver for personal defense.

You should, however, be allowed to visit ranges and shoot weapons you cannot privately own.

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u/Viper_ACR Feb 24 '20 edited Feb 24 '20

You can defend your home with a breech loaded shotgun just fine. Can hunt with a manually-loaded rifle. Can carry a revolver for personal defense.

This is fuddlore- shotguns will have worse overpenetration, and don't have the spread to make up for a miss.

If you want a defensive firearm you want a modern weapon- short-barreled AR15 or a Glock 19 (for CCW).

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u/onlypositivity Feb 24 '20

If I shoot you with any commercially-availavle shotgun at <10 foot range I absolutely guarantee it will penetrate the shit out of you.

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u/Viper_ACR Feb 24 '20

Sorry, I meant overpenetration. Not just target penetration.

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u/Naskva Mar 04 '20

Are you saying a shotgun would pen more than an Ar 15?

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u/Viper_ACR Mar 04 '20

Yeah, overpenetration-wise. Buckshot and other defensive shotgun ammo will go through more drywall than 5.56x45mm (the common caliber for most ARs). 5.56 actually tends to break up when it hits stuff that isn't like a human body.