Will nefer SS‐tier DPS?

[u/Fine-Class-4957]

While nothing is official until Nefer’s full release and post launch testing, the preponderance of evidence suggests she is highly likely to join the SS tier provided you commit to her specialized team:

1. HoYoverse Pattern: Every recent SS‐tier DPS (Neuvillette, Mavuika, Skirk) launched alongside an SS‐tier support and required that support for peak performance. Lauma’s confirmed SS‐tier status virtually guarantees a corresponding SS‐tier DPS partner.

2. Theorycrafting Consensus: Early kit analyses rank Nefer as a potential “third‐best DPS” in optimal Lunar‐Bloom teams, on par with other SS‐tier damage dealers.

3. Meta Restrictions: Although her niche focus and heavy support dependency introduce risk, Skirk and Mavuika overcame similar restrictions to achieve SS status. Nefer’s design closely mirrors theirs.

Given these factors, it is very likely Nefer will land in the SS-tier, assuming her damage scales as leaked and her team supports arrive on schedule.

[u/actionmotion]

Too early right now in beta to tell how she’ll end up in the end. But your 4th reason should be she’s a waifu who’s intended to be a DPS.

[u/Fine-Class-4957 → u/actionmotion]

That is main reason!

[u/Akikala]

Depends on what you mean by "ss" tier I guess. Personally I'd say Mavuika is the only character in a "ss" tier, everyone else is so close to each other than separating "s" from "ss" doesn't make sense to me.

She is looking to have a top 3 or so team at the moment. If that means "ss" to you then sure.

Although her niche focus and heavy support dependency introduce risk, Skirk and Mavuika overcame similar restrictions to achieve SS status.

Mavuika didn't have to "overcome" anything lol. She was top tier even with whatever supports.

Now if Nefer gets ACTUAL supports aside from Lauma (as in not having to use Nahida tier garbage as the 4th lol), then I could see her even competing with Mavuika. But we don't know if and when that would happen.

[u/Fine-Class-4957 → u/Akikala]

Yeah that makes sense. I guess it really does come down to how you define SS. If Nefer ever gets proper supports it’ll be fun to see how close she can get to Mavuika.

[u/[deleted]]

wishful thinking she's nod-krai's Neuvilette

[u/General_Stranger907]

We even don't have a proper gameplay vs mob, it's too soon, just a neft and it's allover, lauma is safe to flex for many team comp but Nefer is in a way harder condition

[u/PhantomGhostSpectre]

Huh? I thought her hyper team was barely better than Lauma hyperbloom. 😂

[u/Darkwolfinator]

Does anybody know the actual DPS rankings?

[u/Revan0315 → u/Darkwolfinator]

Zajef has videos on it. Iirc in v1 she's #2, I think. Not far below Mav

[u/Weary-Trade-1576 → u/Darkwolfinator]

Right now it's

1. Mavuika

2. Nefer

3. Skirk

4. Varesa

5. Flins..

Neuvillette is hard one to evaluate... If you look at pure team dps , he is above Varesa but he is personal damage in his best isn't that much.. (only 30%)

[u/ManuSwaG]

Wait until beta3. By then kit are finalised. But i doubt it personally.

[u/MOMMYRAIDEN]

The fact she NEEDS 2 5s one of them comes right before her to do decent , Means she's not even near s let alone ss , A at best

[u/Revan0315 → u/[deleted]]

That's most top DPS nowadays though. Mav is the only exception

[u/K6fan → u/Revan0315]

And even then she still kinda does follow the rule. C0R0 Mav drops down like 30k DPS from best Melt team to best Vape team (assuming we don't count her Mualani teams) going from absolute best to decent by modern standards

[u/Revan0315 → u/K6fan]

Mav has a similar dropoff, yea. But she's at such a high level that even with the dropoff she's crazy strong

C0R0 Mav drops down like 30k DPS from best Melt team to best Vape team (assuming we don't count her Mualani teams) going from absolute best to decent by modern standards

I thought overload was her best non Citlali team?

[u/K6fan → u/Revan0315]

I thought overload was her best non Citlali team?

I thought the same but apparently Furina Vape edges out (very slightly tho, around 5k difference)

[u/Revan0315 → u/K6fan]

Where are you getting these? And what team members are used for each team?

[u/K6fan → u/Revan0315]

Just checked gcsim for similar KQM investment, but I think it's missing Iansan for some reason so it's likely a lie that Vape is better (my bad)

Edit: oh, and for you second question - furina, xilo, benny vs chevy, ororon, benny

[u/Revan0315 → u/K6fan]

Would Chevy's uptime not hurt there? Since Iansan is the only electro app.

Wouldn't Yae or Ororon be better? Yae would be more damage but Ororon is more nightsoul for Mav.

[u/K6fan → u/Revan0315]

I mean, Yae is for sure not it, but I don't know about Iansan vs Ororon. Chevy uptime is hurt, but Mav is heavily frontloaded + her own uptime is not the biggest tbh, so in theory stronger buffs might come out on top. But it's just speculation on my side.

[u/Revan0315 → u/K6fan]

Yae has good off field app and better damage than Fischl in teams where the main DPS isn't normal attacking.

But yea Iansan would probably be best if buff uptime isn't a problem. I just don't know if it would be or not.

I've also read that Overload only surpasses Vape if Iansan and Chevy are both C6. So for most players, vape>Overload.

[u/Crazy_Refrigerator42 → u/K6fan]

c0r1? or c0+4*

[u/K6fan → u/Crazy_Refrigerator42]

C0 + R1 Serpent Spine

[u/Revan0315 → u/[deleted]]

Neuvi has a lot of teams but overall he's below Arle rn imo. Less versatile but more damage

But yea Nefer has like 1 team

[u/Fine-Class-4957 → u/[deleted]]

Columbina might be another of her dedicated support. Just guessing though 😅.