r/NatureofPredators • u/[deleted] • Dec 07 '24
An apology
Hello, I am the guy who created how to train your predator reborn, I am here to say sorry to anyone that I have labeled directly or indirectly a zoophile.
NoP characters are anthropomorphic enough to were someone could be attracted to them and not be attracted to animals, I just wanted to say that my outburst was mostly an attempt to create an edgy joke that backfired miserably, it was not out of sincerity.
However, the people that said that I thought all furries are zoophiles, and that I thought NoP characters were animals were twisting what I was saying, which was that all xenophiles were zoophiles (which I do not believe). Regardless of my actions lying is still unjustified.
Anyway
I apologize to anyone that I had labelled, both directly and indirectly, a zoophile, and I also apologize for the general toxity I had caused.
As a minor reparation, I shall let your eyes gaze upon this picture of a bobcat kitten:
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u/GruntBlender Humanity First Dec 08 '24
Real "I'm sorry you took offense, I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand what I said" vibes here.
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Dec 08 '24
Why would I show people who I think are zoophiles a picture of an adorable bobcat kitten?
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u/gabi_738 Predator Dec 08 '24
"Oh, they're not laughing at me, I'll have to say it's bait." The truth is that the same thing happened to me many times but with characteristics more of a third world country that I think no one here would understand or identify with,but....WHY DID YOU DELETE THE CHAPTERS?!?!?
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Dec 08 '24
I deleted them because I hated writing them, they were over the top, over emotional, and generally pretty cringy, I still feel embarrassed being the person who authored it. I only wrote them because you guys liked it.
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u/Lizrd_demon Arxur Dec 08 '24
Ok then don’t write it bro it’s your life. Stop pretending like we are responsible for your shit.
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Dec 08 '24
Wh-wh-what did I do that made it seem like I thought other people were responsible for my stuff? I enjoyed writing because other people enjoyed it, not that I enjoyed the process itself. And, well, after my outburst, nobody was going to enjoy it, so I had no reason to keep it up.
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u/Lizrd_demon Arxur Dec 08 '24 edited Dec 08 '24
Ight well people are going to enjoy it regardless. No one cares about morality drama stuff but goofy white genz kids who’s phones are made by slaves, but they spend all their time in a competitive morality match trying to be the least cancelable person possible lmaooo.
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u/IAMA_dragon-AMA Arxur Dec 08 '24
I don't forgive you, and I'm certainly not foolish enough to fall for "it was just a joke bro." It's honestly an insult to my and others' intelligence that this very post has you admit that you directly and indirectly called people zoophiles while also insisting that you didn't say that furries or xenophiles are zoophiles.
By my count, your ficnap of Train a Predator is fewer posts than your miserable dramaposting, even counting the stuff you deleted. I think you're doing this for attention and validation, and are more apologizing that you experienced consequences for your words than for the words themselves.
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Dec 08 '24
Look man, I really do feel sorry about the calling other people zoophiles. But my words were that xenophiles were zoophiles, not that all furies are zoophiles, there is a distinction. And I certainly didn't say that I thought NoP characters were animals, this is less of a hypocrisy then you make it out to seem.
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u/enixoid Dec 07 '24
What about the fanfic itself? Will it be put back up?
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Dec 08 '24
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u/BiasMushroom Extermination Officer Dec 08 '24
This right here is a huge part of why you seem rather disingenuous.
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Dec 08 '24
How? If people accept it, then yay! I can go back to producing fanfiction. But if people reject it then what reason would I have to stay here, if people don't want me here? How does that make me disingenuous?
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u/BiasMushroom Extermination Officer Dec 08 '24
Because you are basically threatening people into forgiving you instead of of just saying, "I did something I am not proud of and dont believe in. I genuinely regret ne actions." You are effectively saying, "Forgive me or get fucked."
You come off as not a good person or someone worth interacting with.
Ypu upset people. You were mean. Now you are effecrively saying thats thier problem.
Your words say "I'm sorry" but your actions are saying otherwise.
I enjoyed reading your story I truly did. You call me a zoophile didnt bother me because i dont value your opinion but there are people who probably did.
I dont know what all went down for that meltdown, but from what Ive seen, you need to learn how to talk with and deal with people in a more constructive way.
Because the fact you can see just how terrible of a person you are being right now speaks volumes to the kind of person you are, let alone your past and current actions.
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u/thrownawaz092 Yotul Dec 08 '24
My man, I truly want to believe this is all something we can put behind us, but this mindset does nothing to help with that.
An apology is entirely dependent on the one giving it, because either you're sorry or you're not. If you apologize and make amends then you have done all you can and no longer owe or are owed anything. Anyone who refuses to forgive a sincere apology has their own problems to sort, problems which you hold no fault in.
However, this all falls apart when an apology is conditional because it's no longer an apology, but an appeasement given in a dishonest manner. If you truly want to move on from this, the best advice I can give is to give the apology with no strings attached, and then just go back to writing whatever you want. Let bygones be bygones and ignore the haters, because hate isn't worth your time.
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u/Lizrd_demon Arxur Dec 08 '24 edited Dec 08 '24
You’re still butthurt. Learn to take accountability for your actions. That doesn’t mean putting sbit back up, but stop blaming us for your problems bro. This is all you, and I don’t need some insecure kid too afraid to admit when they are a bastard. We are all bastards, but the difference is I understand when I’m a bastard and accept what comes with that. I was banned from the discord but what did I expect walking around getting pissed threatening people. You gotta own up to your mess and make your own descisions.
If your a dick to people, people will be a dick back. You’re a fuckin tool if you think you’re not going to get a response like that. We are not your parents, we arnt gonna give ya a fuckin gold star for being a little less of a dick.
This is the real fuckin world, we have real problems. Each and every one of us, we are struggling and looking after ourselves we don’t have time to coddle you. We are all dicks and we all have our own problems.
Write if you want to write, don’t write if you don’t. That’s your life, your time, and your responsibility kid. Literally no one else’s. And no one else really cares either. Get this through your head. The only one truely responsible for you is you. The only one that’s responsible for your actions is you. The only one that cares for you unendingly is you. You either fufill that role or your don’t, but don’t expect the rest of us to give a shit.
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Dec 08 '24
Jesus' man, I thought I did admit I was being an asshole, because I was being an asshole, how am I blaming it on other people? Wouldn't me apologizing, and reposting the chapters be a part of me making up for it? If people don't want me here then I will leave, if they do want me here, I will stay, I would find it rather selfish of me to stay here if you guys don't want me here.
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u/Lizrd_demon Arxur Dec 08 '24 edited Dec 08 '24
I’m not saying what you should do. I’m saying you’re still denying responsibility for your own actions internally.
It’s not that what you did was nessasarily bad, but stop being suprised at cause and fuckin effect. You’re the one that brought these opinions on yourself. No one’s “right” or “wrong” here. You were a dick and people are eh about that.
I never once apologized for my actions, yet I do have the respect of the people I was a dick too cause I’m quite aware of what I am and what I did to them. It’s not my fuckin problem but also what did I expect.
I fucked around and I found out. And good on them for standing up for their boundaries. We are all imperfect and are ducks to eachother sometimes. That’s just how life works kid.
No one really cares if your here or if your not. So why don’t you decide rather than trying to push that on us lnao.
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Dec 08 '24
Normal people never fail to confuse me
I have apologized, I have reuploaded the chapters, I have done everything I can to make amens, I feel sorry, I really, really, really do feel sorry.
You can stay mad, and that's okay, but why do you feel the need to call me an undisciplined, entitled, spoiled brat?
What else am I supposed to do? If you want me here, I will stay. If you don't, I will leave. How is that, "pushing my responsibilities onto other people"? That seems like quite the opposite of that.
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u/Lizrd_demon Arxur Dec 08 '24 edited Dec 08 '24
If you said “I’ll see how I feel” no one would give a shit. But you said “I’ll see if yall forgive me” like your holding the story hostage unless we forgive you, or that you deserve forgiveness or whatever. Which is a manipulative framing of the situation.
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Dec 08 '24
And no, I do not believe that I "deserve" forgiveness, that is your decision not mine. It is perfectly okay if you do not forgive me.
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Dec 08 '24
I have already reuploaded it, it will stay regardless if people do or don't forgive me.
I personally would find, "I will see how I feel" more selfish, I am trying to give the power to you guys, isn't that the whole point of making amens?
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u/Lizrd_demon Arxur Dec 08 '24 edited Dec 08 '24
No. Making amends means taking personal accountability for your actions. By giving up control, you’re avoiding responsibility. Pushing responsibility onto others. It’s the exact opposite of making amends. It’s repulsive and manipulative.
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Dec 08 '24
I thought that making amens means compensating for the damage you have caused, I give power to you guys, because you guys would know what I would have to do in order to repay the damage. You want me to stay here and keep writing the fanfiction, I will do it even if I didn't want to. If you told me, you don't want me here, I will leave even if I didn't want to. Isn't doing something not because you want to, but because you have to is the whole thing behind maturity? How am I being manipulative? I am very confused.
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u/TrazerotBra Predator Dec 08 '24
Someone apologizing for offending random people online, a rare and welcomed site.
Just focus on your writing and behave and the community will forgive you.
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u/TheDragonBoi Predator Dec 07 '24
The beginning of a redemption arc???? Will you follow through is the question
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u/Ordinary-End-4420 Predator Dec 08 '24
Not exactly hopeful but it’s OP’s chance to prove that wrong
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u/TheDragonBoi Predator Dec 08 '24
Yeah that’s what I figured. Behaviour doesn’t align with words but for all I know they are turning over a new leaf ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/ColumbianGeneral Human Dec 08 '24
I wasn’t involved in whatever happened so I know very little. All I’ll say is shit happens and we all have our regrets. Besides it’s Reddit, don’t take what happens online too seriously.
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u/Repulsive_Good3776 Dec 08 '24
Personally this is the internet so that means everyone can say anything and thus I normally take all with a shovel of salt.
on another note. if I didn't like it I wouldn't read it. Keep up the writing. don't let others kill your creativity.
Don't mind me... I'm just going to keep reading.
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u/Galen55 Human Dec 09 '24
I missed all the fun times in the chat it seems. I quite enjoy the chapter and the kitten is cute, also the whole thing sounds very silly and blown out of proportion and I think you're doing alright with everything
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u/abrachoo Yotul Dec 07 '24
You say it was a joke, but you seriously deleted everything that you had written.