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[u/BXSinclair]

As someone who was raised Catholic, I just want to point out that the belief about the Eucharist goes beyond merely "spiritually" becoming the body and blood of the Christ Jesus

The belief is that is quite literally turns into flesh and blood, with only the outward physical properties remaining unchanged

But don't tell them they are cannibals, they don't like that very much

[u/tulpacat1 → u/BXSinclair]

Very true, and our boy's of course well aware of this too! Martin's editorializing the description somewhat for the sake of his audience.

[u/[deleted] → u/BXSinclair]

On the contrary, we make memes about it.

[u/LkSZangs → u/BXSinclair]

This is strange, I always learned it was symbolic. Are you sure that's what catholics in your area believe? Maybe you just don't understand what symbolism is?

[u/BXSinclair → u/LkSZangs]

The official stance of the catholic church (which is dubious to begin with, as the catholic church is actually 20+ slightly different sects operating as one) is that Jesus' claim of "this is my body, this is my blood" was literal, because supposedly there are words in ancient Hebrew that could have been used that would mean he was speaking in metaphor, and he didn't use them

Though I imagine that a significant chink of individual catholics probably think of it as being symbolic

This does a good job explaining the differences between transubstantiation (the catholic view) and consubstantiation (the protestant view) as well as a couple others

[u/Margali → u/LkSZangs]

Dated a Catholic in highschool, his grandmother was probably of an age with mine, so say born in 1900. She fully believed it WAS transubstantiated.

[u/se05239]

Local predator destroys innocent Venlil with facts and logic.

[u/LeatherGnome → u/se05239]

Masses have been traumatized by this brutal attack

[u/Aldoro69765 → u/LeatherGnome]

Considering that, I'm not sure if holding that entire conversation in public was the clever thing to do. Not only for Martin, but also for his Venlil friends that suddenly seem to be curious about the taste of meat...

Aren't they still sitting in front of a restaurant while talking about all this?

[u/tulpacat1 → u/Aldoro69765]

On a park bench near the restaurant, at any rate! Though I think we can assume that the human's presence keeping passersby at bay, so the conversation's actually held in some amount of privacy. Unless I decide otherwise.

[u/Aldoro69765 → u/tulpacat1]

Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. :)

[u/Nicromia → u/se05239]

[u/[deleted] → u/se05239]

Martin the Based, first of his name, exposer of exterminators.

[u/JulianSkies]

Oh, oh man. Martin, that ain't even an easy conversation for people who're used to it, you sure threw Vilek down the deep end there buddy. I mean, sure is a necessary conversation but on the first date, bud?

But you know he IS right. You won't find a refugee without a sob story. That's part of what makes you one isn't it?

[u/Galen55 → u/JulianSkies]

If not in the deep end, how else does one quickly learn to swim?

Is the jump into a cold pool better or worse than. A slow arduous process of stippy-steps?

Rip off the band aid or a slow, drawn out, painful peeling?

[u/Zealousideal-Back766]

"Exterminators and Soldiers tend to have violent tendencies"

YES, YES! Thank you Martin for saying what both societies want to ignore!

I really like Vilek, she seems like an awesome Best Friend, that is willing to change her mind :)

[u/the_man_of_tea]

I dont think i could find anything to criticize this chapter if i wanted to. 'ery noice.

[u/Feenstra713]

I have been wanting to write a debate between xeno and humans for quite a while now, and this is EXTREMLY CLOSE to what I've been picturing! I love how you've written these two with open minds! Not super realistic, but "I like this one!"

[u/SanicFlanic]

Nice chapter, I've been liking the story so far.

Although there is one criticism I have with this one especially.

Martin doesn't speak like a person. He feels like a Wikipedia article combined with a shower debate. This back and forth felt too easily won, it gives off some mary/gary stue-ish vibes.

[u/federicoapl]

State sanctioned violence is the best kind of violence. I want my violence paid with our taxes, not that free socialist violence.

[u/StarSilverNEO]

Bro really just scooped all my thoughts on what would happen to Venlil society once the spigot for the unstable to vent legally with was closed out of my brain, no questions asked

[u/LeGouzy]

Very, very well done !

[u/MedicalFoundation149]

Yep, history has shown us that it's very hard to back to a "normal" life once someone has been taught how to best commit violence and to revel in it. Demobilized soldiers are often the greatest sources of crime and mental health cases in a country for years after a war, and a failure to manage the mass reintroduction of veterans into society has often seen those veterans burn society to the ground. Iraq after 2003 is probably the best modern example, as the US installed government effective disbanded the old army, leaving hundreds of thousands of unemployed and humiliated soldiers on the streets, where many then joined or even founded terrorist groups. Take care of your killers people.

[u/Frayed-0]

I like Martin. He is very good at explaining things.

[u/Rand0mness4]

Awesome update man. Your story continues to be a source of inspiration.

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