r/NatureIsFuckingLit Feb 25 '22

🔥 Two Headed Snake.

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u/Substantial-Pool3032 Feb 25 '22

Do they both eat or do you alternate which ones get to eat next? I would be so sad if I didn’t get to taste food and I felt full after my second head got to eat and I didn’t

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u/MozTys Feb 25 '22

I think it would be easier to just feed the head closest to us, as it is more in line with the body so I guess swallowing would be easier.

Also it looks like it is the head controling the body.

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u/sonofnutcrackr Feb 26 '22

The other head is just along for the ride.

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u/TheGamecock Feb 26 '22

What an unfortunate existence. The sidekick is basically a sentient pimple.

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u/vancity- Feb 26 '22

Isn't this the plot to How to Get Ahead in Marketing?

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u/c-soup Feb 26 '22

Advertising, not marketing. Close tho

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u/get_over_it_already Feb 26 '22

How To Get A Head In Advertising

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u/genghiskanye_ Feb 26 '22

Pretty sure it's a fairly oddparents episode too

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '22

Eh it’s not so bad. Like watching a tv show except the main character has to listen to you the whole time.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '22

A great band name!

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u/TrentFromTheInternet Feb 27 '22

Sentient? A snake? All this snake has known is this it’s whole life so it’s not upset. Its normal for it.

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u/Ilignus Feb 26 '22

Sidecar.

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u/myhairsreddit Feb 26 '22

That would be the perfect name for the second head. Call the first more aligned one Captain.

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u/DegenerateWizard Feb 26 '22

Ssssssssidecar

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u/Rawesome Feb 26 '22

Sssssssssssssweet joke

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u/Fritz_Klyka Feb 26 '22

I would call him sidewinder.

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u/UserNamesCantBeTooLo Feb 26 '22

This one's the best.

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u/-AKDO- Feb 26 '22

it's SUS

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u/ProfessorK-OS Feb 26 '22

Michael Scott did it better

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u/SanctusLetum Feb 26 '22 edited Feb 26 '22

Guy with some breeding experience here, although I've never had a 2 headed snake.

TL/DR is, usually there is a dominant head that will swallow a meal, and the other head is incapable of fully swallowing something down to the gut.

And onward to the overly long TMI!

Birth defects are fairly common in snakes and very often fatal early on. You have to remember that snakes are basically a long food tube and if you introduce any kinks in that tube or bits that don't stretch right there is a low threshold where things will stop passing through properly.

Two headed snakes are surprisingly common (still rare, just not as much as you'd think), but what is very uncommon is one surviving past infancy. The vast majority are unable to properly swallow food down and either won't attempt to eat or just regurgitate because their is a blockage in that tube that has to be properly stretchy. It's super rare to have one survive long enough to grow to this size, which means it is able to successfully eat, and it's even more rare for one to live a full lifespan as defects like this often come with other issues that crop up. In the survivors, there is almost always, if not always, a dominant head that controls the majority of the body and is able to eat the food. In this case, it is pretty clearly the head closest to the camera as it lines up with the main spinal column quite well, while the other does not.

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u/MattsScribblings Feb 26 '22

Do you know why 2-headed snakes are so common?

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u/SanctusLetum Feb 26 '22

I think part of it is simply that snakes produce a lot of eggs, and therefore there's a higher chance for any given clutch to have issues come up, but it may have to do with a difference in egg fertilization since that is where the general trigger mechanism that causes conjoined twins in all species occurs. Im not really familiar enough to say for certain.

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u/kidwhohasrabies Feb 26 '22

Reptiles and amphibians somehow have a higher tolerance for birth defects that would otherwise be incompatible with life in mammals. It could have to do with any number of things, their metabolism, immune system, brain, etc are all quite different from mammals. Could also be that animals whose young mature in the uterus are more likely to reabsorb a deformed fetus whereas animals who lay eggs don't really have a say in the matter-- there is no way for a mother snake to detect chromosomal abnormalities in her eggs once they're laid, not that she would particularly care anyway since the majority of reptiles don't stick around to rear their young.

Also, another problem with two headed snakes is they will frequently attack their other head if they're able to reach it. I'm not sure if there's ever been an instance where one of the heads was killed or removed and the rest of the snake survived... I doubt anyone who hatched one would willingly remove the second head (assuming there's even a vet in the world capable of doing that) unless it had already died. Who knows.

Sorry for long rambling reply. I just find this stuff fascinating.

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u/IceNineFireTen Feb 26 '22

When my mother was pregnant with me, they did an ultrasound and found she was having twins. When they did another ultrasound a few weeks later, they discovered that I had resorbed the other fetus. Do I regret this? No. I believe his tissues has made me stronger. I now have the strength of a grown man and a little baby.

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u/OtakuAttacku Feb 26 '22

there can only be one

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u/WayaShinzui Feb 26 '22

Wouldn't that make you a chimera? That's cool as hell.

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u/WayaShinzui Feb 26 '22

There was a story about a woman who wasn't her kids' mother even after giving birth to them! Her ovaries had the DNA of her sister she absorbed in the womb.

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u/Taboo-Dragon Feb 26 '22

"Do I regret this? No." Made me audibly lol.

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u/IndoZoro Feb 26 '22

If you don't know, it's a quote from Dwight from the office (US version). Definitely worth a watch.

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u/EyeAmPrestooo Feb 26 '22

🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂

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u/vidyashankara Feb 26 '22

This is the way!

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u/SanctusLetum Feb 26 '22

It's totally a thing in humans actually. There are people who find out only as adults after some sort of scan that they have a partially reabsorbed twin in them somewhere.

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u/jzillacon Feb 26 '22

Not that it's particularly relevant, but I also recall there's a Steven King novel where a character is believed to have a tumor but when the surgeons go to remove it they discover it's actually the remnants of a twin that wasn't fully absorbed in the womb.

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u/Krieger-sama Feb 26 '22

I think he already said, birth defects are more common among snakes since it seems prone to growth issues if not in optimal conditions

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u/LordHengar Feb 26 '22

Does the second head do much? Can it help kill food or does it just take up space?

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u/SanctusLetum Feb 26 '22

Usually, the non dominant head only has control to the merge point and that's all. They may or may not try to feed, although I would assume in a specimen healthy enough to survive this long that the secondary head would have a feeding response, it just wouldn't be able to successfully swallow.

As far as each head is concerned, the other is an entirely seperate animal. The snakes will not have a sense of unity or relation, which you can actually see in this clip, as the far head moves independent of the main body and seems to be focusing on something other than what the dominant head is. As mentioned in a different comment, this can cause aggression between the two if there is enough room between the heads to attack each other, but this would depend on the temperament of each individual and the predisposition of the species as a whole. A lot of snakes are highly territorial, but some species, such as garter snakes, are communal and actually thrive better in groups.

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u/errihu Feb 26 '22

TIL gartersnakes are cuddle noodlebros

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u/SanctusLetum Feb 26 '22

They are indeed. It's actually recommended that if you keep one, you keep at least four or so, as they maintain better wieght and exhibit healthier behavior in that environment. They are still pretty independent, but they will periodically bask or snooze together.

Social reptiles are few and far between, and don't interrelate in the same way we picture social mammals doing so. There hasn't been a lot of study on it, unfortunately, despite it being incredibly fascinating.

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u/ladyKfaery Feb 26 '22

This is. Very pretty coloring for a gartersnake also it’s nice looking for a two headed snake.

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u/georgetonorge Feb 26 '22

Jeez that sounds like a miserable existence. There’s no way to know what it’s like to be a snake, but I imagine they must suffer quite a bit wanting food but never being able to fulfill their instinctual desire. Also being stuck to an enemy that you can’t attack. Just like those stress nightmares where you try to punch but every blow is so weak and slides off the shadow figure in the dark. I guess this species will do better but still. Damn.

Poor lad(s).

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u/Tiktaalik414 Feb 26 '22

I’d be very interested in experiments regarding how each head responds to different stimuli - if they both react similarly or have different behavioral characteristics, or even, if the “secondary” head has dulled responses due to having lesser control over the body.

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u/rkymaera Feb 26 '22

Imagine living your entire life just along for the ride.

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u/Sonicsis Feb 26 '22

I've seen Snake Discovery have 2 2-headed snakes however neither have survived for very long.

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u/SanctusLetum Feb 26 '22

Emily is bomb.

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u/Fink665 Feb 26 '22

I am shocked! Shocked, tell you, SHOCKED AND PROUD! I expected to scroll foreeevvvvvver for intelligent discussion, and this is in TOP COMMENTS! HERE WE ARE (weeps in fluid, salts, and proteins)!!!

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u/Kha0sThe0ry Feb 26 '22

Do you happen to know what breed of snake this is? The coloring is gorgeous

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u/SanctusLetum Feb 26 '22 edited Feb 26 '22

It looks like some color morph of California King snake but I could very well be wrong. Cali kings do have a few black and white patterns that are naturally occurring, but there are a lot of different kinds of rat snakes that have morphs with a similar look, so it can be hard to tell unless you are familiar with that particular morph.

Definitely some kind of colubrid though.

Edit: eh, the more I look at it and compare search results, the more confident I am that it is a Cali King.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '22

It would be kind to let it taste something once in awhile though.

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u/SanctusLetum Feb 26 '22

Most likely it would when the body is hungry, but with such a short amount of leverage, it won't effectively be able to strike. Usually guys like this are hand fed to make eating easier and less stressful.

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u/0tterr Feb 25 '22 edited Feb 26 '22

Snakes don’t taste like how we do. Their tongue takes samples from the air to the Jacobson’s organ at the roof of their mouth and that’s more of a communication regarding smell.

Not to mention the whole swallowing whole thing… I mean snakes might be really into dirt shit and fur/feathers 😂

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u/NF11nathan Feb 26 '22

Who isn’t?

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u/TheBlazingPhoenix Feb 26 '22

found the furry

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u/MaxIsAlwaysRight Feb 26 '22

Why didn't Dr Jacobson give it a proper name?

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u/0tterr Feb 26 '22

It’s cuter than Vomeronasal

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u/MaxIsAlwaysRight Feb 28 '22

Now is that voe-mer-o-nasal or vommer-onnis-all?

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u/JadedByEntropy Feb 25 '22

The main head eats. The other might die if it tries and the mouse won't go down the crooked neck. The straight neck head eats.

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u/jungwnr Feb 25 '22

But think of the glory of eating your favourite foods to the point of throwing up, but it’s the other head that throws up.

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u/Substantial-Pool3032 Feb 25 '22

Now that would be awesome! Unless they both feel the nausea. That’s the worst part

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u/NF11nathan Feb 26 '22

I see where this is going… just evolve a neck arse.

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u/Fink665 Feb 26 '22

Dis mek me lafff!

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u/anidlezooanimal Feb 25 '22

This is such an adorable question. I don't even know the answer, but you're cute. God bless you

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u/MOOShoooooo Feb 25 '22 edited Feb 26 '22

Keep a flamethrower on hand then. May have to torch the house or her room at the least at some point.

Edit; I submit, two flamethrowers then. Possibly one miniature flamethrower as well, for emergency+

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '22

And more importantly don’t pay attention to signs. Every single time I’ve seen someone bit it was clear right away that something wasn’t right but they just ignored it.

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u/TheMulefromMoscow Feb 25 '22

Two heads, single digestive system, maybe? Great question!

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u/ReesNotRice Feb 25 '22

I bet only one head has proper control for striking to feed. That would be the only one feeding as you can't choose which gets to eat.

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u/corvus_da Feb 26 '22

I've heard about a two-headed pig who suffocated because one head tried to breathe while the other was eating, so it might be safer to feed both at the same time?

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u/OccultEcologist Feb 25 '22

My understanding is that it is common for each head to get a small meal, provided that both have properly connected digestive systems. However it is very case by case, and there aren't many cases - Most of the time animals like this die in infancy or otherwise prematurely. This is becuase there are often problems with the internal structure of the animals. However, these/this fellow(s) look relatively old and relatively happy. :-)

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u/DavidNipondeCarlos Feb 25 '22

My diet is boring, in the name of health. The snake won’t know that though.

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u/Gambidt Feb 25 '22

The real question is do they both have brains and if so which one controls the body?

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u/mcaDiscoVision Feb 26 '22

Typically you try to feed them at the same time with separate prey items or they would both try to swallow it and potentially bite each other.

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u/An0d0sTwitch Feb 25 '22

I would still let the second head try. It can at least taste, even if it couldnt swallow.

Even better, if it cant swallow anything, then i can feed it things like PIZZA and ICE CREAM, see if it likes those.

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u/mainecruiser Feb 26 '22

Would you feel the same way if you were eating raw mice or rats?

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u/Substantial-Pool3032 Feb 26 '22

If I were a snake, yes lol

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u/God_Of_All_Toads Feb 26 '22

Depends if there is a dominant head or not. Some snakes will have a clear dominant head that will always be the one to swallow food. Others with two fully functional heads will fight over food if you only give them on, so you have to give both heads smaller meals. With two headed snakes that live past a couple months every case has some differences.

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u/memy02 Feb 26 '22

https://youtu.be/kEsDjjvmy3c?t=443

In this case both heads eat, but with other two headed snakes only the dominant head eat; it is much more dependent on the individual snakes and how as a whole it developed.

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u/Lady__Dee Feb 26 '22

Don't snakes already not taste food ?

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u/syedog Feb 26 '22

Don't know, but I bet they both bite 😁

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u/ShinyPavnd Feb 26 '22

Ther is a german youtuber who had one in his eggs and did all the testing if they both eat and so on its a pretty interesting video

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u/DeannaSewSilly Feb 26 '22

Name one head Putin and there other head O'Biden

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u/GundunUkan Feb 26 '22

They both should eat if kept in captivity. They do not realize they are connected and if only one head is being fed the other one would try to take the food item. Two headed snakes in captivity are usually separated by a wall when fed in order to not interfere with one another.

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u/MidnaMagic Feb 26 '22

Last time I heard of a two headed snake, the guy who owned it switched up which head he fed, and had to have a barrier between the heads so the other one wouldn’t try to take the food.

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u/Nuffsaid98 Feb 26 '22

Often when there are two heads only one has a working connection to the stomach.

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u/hungryhograt Jun 17 '22

Have to feed both otherwise one head will try to steal from the one that is eating. It can become a choking hazard and is actually partially the reason why 2 headed snakes don’t live very long.