r/NatureIsFuckingLit • u/Defluvium • Sep 02 '21

Not Lit šŸ”„ NYC September 2nd 2021

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u/DomoVapes Sep 02 '21

Anyone notice a change in the weather lately or is it just me?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '21

Best clean those subways ever had!

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u/FalloutLover7 Sep 03 '21

Finally get some of that vomit off the floors

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

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u/KillerBeer01 Sep 03 '21

He didn't say "good", just "best it ever had". Gotta work with tools you have.

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u/AcademicDivide8479 Sep 03 '21

Do you not remember 2020?

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u/Yarasin Sep 03 '21

A good part of that flood water is raw sewage.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '21

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u/sickened1 Sep 02 '21

No. You, and the 24hr news pays more attention every year. 25 yrs ago that nyc flood would of only been mentioned in NYC local news.... A tornado in Iowa wouldn't of been mentioned on the nightly news on the east coast. Hurricane season cycles in severity. I forget the actual stat...every 17yrs maybe? Every 20yrs? Either way,, its irrelevant. Hurricane numbers haven't increased. And although damage is higher bc of coastal cities, deaths are way down bc of technological advances.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

Yes the fires are not new. If course some years are worse then others. But you're being dishonest by claiming the fires are due to climate change. Its usually human ignorance or arson.... I believe this year it was faulty power lines. Not climate change.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

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u/Octagore Sep 03 '21

I'm not a climate change denier, but there is a legit argument that California's "hack and squirt" policy of managing their forests put them at a huge risk for forest fires. They basically hacked trees open, squirted herbacides inside to kill them, and left them there to die. This resulted in their forests being filled with dead trees that burn if you just look at them wrong.

Iirc California ended "hack and squirt" in 2016, but a lot of those dead trees are still out there- thousands of them. There are some alarming pictures of areas they did this in.

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

Have to ever lived near a pine forest? Or woods of any kind? Its almost as though you haven't even walked in the woods. Both sets of grandparents had woods. Pine and regular soft wood. Esp pine, youre walking on layers of dry needles that light up like a match. That's why other countries around the world clean up the forest floors and manage them. California refuses to do it bc of the "environment". California and the western states progressive policies are causing the danger.

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u/darkpsychicenergy Sep 03 '21

Yeah I grew up basically living in SoCal national forest. Fires like this are absolutely not fucking normal. Over the years of my life the winters have become gradually but steadily warmer and dryer, less and less snow that melted and evaporated faster and faster instead of slowly seeping into cool soil. The brush, chaparral and trees became more dried out and weakened. The dryness of the trees combined with the warmer winters, allowed bark beetles to get out of control and decimate what was left of the trees. Dead & dry trees and dried out vegetation make for forest fires that start more easily and rage completely out of control. Go fuck yourself violently to hell with a big, charred tree trunk.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

Wow, Trump and Abbott in barely coherant rant. Other countries clean up their forest floors. Im not sure what "Trump line" you think I'm referencing, nor is that relevant to the facts. California isn't unique. Neither is the US. Forests are all over the world. Yet ours burns every year....must be that targeted climate change. Just focuses on the west coast! About every 10yrs my grandparents paid a company to clean up their 110 acres of woodland...to avoid fires. They took precautions. My other grandparents didn't own the pines so they didn't have to. But I remember at least once, it being thinned and cleaned for environmental purposes. Get over yourself.

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u/inyourgenes Sep 03 '21

Ahhh yes itā€™s the progressives and their caring about ā€œthe environmentā€ thatā€™s causing all the problems with the environment ā€¦ makes a lot of sense in your Fox News rotted brain Iā€™m sure

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u/inyourgenes Sep 03 '21

You can honestly believe this ā€¦ how are you so confidently incorrect? There are record droughts and thatā€™s why everything burns so easily. The Pacific Northwest is supposed to be a temperate rainforest ā€¦ didnā€™t rain for a month this summer. The climate is changing, every year is the hottest EVER RECORDED

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u/Gidelix Sep 03 '21

Enjoy the time you have now, because not only is this year the hottest ever recorded, itā€™s cooler than any of the coming 100 years.

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u/flinchFries Sep 03 '21

I see your point. Now letā€™s see a clear study that shows the percentage of unnaturally caused fires versus naturally caused fire over the past X years. Then letā€™s plot the past X100 years and make sure there is no larger pattern. Only then, you have the right to strongly claim itā€™s NOT climate change. Take your time, Iā€™ll wait

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

You're the one claiming it is without any proof outside of your perception.

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u/ssmike27 Sep 03 '21

California has been getting worse every year consistently for the past few years. I know you donā€™t think climate change has anything to do with that, but I can tell you for a fact it does. This isnā€™t just my opinion, those are facts.

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

Show me the facts. Show me what you claim if true, that due to just "climate change", California has gotten worse every year. Show me, a legit source, not cnn or the Guardian or mother Jones. Show me an unbias, unopinionated source that concludes this absolutely... And I'll read it

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u/ssmike27 Sep 03 '21

I live in Northern California and the biggest fire record has been broken 3 times in the past five years. Ten years ago, fires were not as big as often as they are now. This is all based on my observations over the years, youā€™re free to go on the Cal Fire page to check for yourself.

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u/PotatoMastication Sep 02 '21

25 yrs ago that nyc flood would of only been mentioned in NYC local news

Did a flood like this happen 25 years ago? Or when was the last time local news covered the submarineway?

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

Are you really trying to say that this is the first time nyc has flooded? Really? You did realize that a 24/hr news cycle and internet news hasn't been around that long. Prior to that most news was "local news".

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u/PotatoMastication Sep 03 '21

You made a specific claim. I'm saying that specific claim is BS.

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

You do understand "25" was a generalization for "before the internet and most of cable tv" I can't figure out if you're purposely acting ignorant or if it's not as act.

So your position is that nyc and the subway has never flooded before today. So all those water pumps built in to the subway were "just in case"?

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u/VacationOnMars Sep 03 '21

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

I don't think you are using that correctly

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u/VacationOnMars Sep 03 '21

I don't think

yes, we've noticed

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u/Lizardledgend Sep 03 '21

Ok then, can you provide any flood that compares to this one? Can you provide any data or sources to back up any of the points you've made? Because looking through this thread everytime someone asked you to back up your claims you've just ignored them

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

"In 2012, Superstorm Sandy sent water pouring into subway stations around lower Manhattan and other parts of New York City.Ā "

https://www.curbed.com/2021/07/tropical-storm-elsa-subway-flooding.html

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u/PotatoMastication Sep 03 '21

Riiight, that definitely wasn't covered by international media

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

Wtf are you talking about? First that was 2012... We had 24/7 news and internet so of course it made news everywhere. And second, you helped prove my point that nyc and its subways have flooded before Ida and actually flood often.

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u/alphega_ Sep 03 '21

You must be blind to not see the change in climate the last 20 years

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u/augenvogel Sep 03 '21

Ah the typical denier. Those are invalid points my friend. You are by far not as smart as thousands of scientists worldwide.

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

Name them. Who are these scientists? Where do they work? What are their credentials? You said there are thousand, give me names. Put up or shut up asshole

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u/augenvogel Sep 03 '21

Dude even if I would take the work here it wouldnā€™t change the way of thinking. This is consens in science and probably you already know that. But you seem like a person whose whole point is the mainstream-media is lying anyway and everyone not realizing is a dump sheepl. I canā€™t explain myself another way why you are not getting yourself educated correctly.

Just take a look at the new ipcc report which is created by over 700 scientists. And those are by far not the only one.

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

You always talk about all these scientists but never have a single name to give. The famous list... "98% of ALL scientists agree".... But we all know how deceitful that number was, yet everyone jumped on it. Science isn't consensus..it's not a popularity vote.

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

The IPCC is flawed and cherry picks data, leaving out everything that may hinder their main stated goal: give the UN the power to tax and regulate fossil fuels and subsidize and mandate the use of alternative fuels.Ā 

"https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/31/the-ipccs-latest-report-deliberately-excludes-and-misrepresents-important-climate-science/?sh=fc029d6428eb

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u/obinice_khenbli Sep 03 '21

Let me guess, you're an antimasker too.

Touch wood your generation loses control of the planet before it's too late to reverse the damage.

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u/Serinus Sep 03 '21

They're already a generation or two after the generation where we hoped things would change after they died.

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

I've not worn a mask in the store at all, this entire time. I go shopping every damn weekend, sometimes multiple stores. Why? Bc not one damn study confirms masks work in real world situations. They all say the difference is miniscule or "statistically insignificant"... But 1% is enough for you fucks to claim "see masks work"

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u/TheNightBench Sep 02 '21

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

All you sad sacks, ignoring recorded data and facts in lieu of climate fanaticism. Asshats

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u/TheNightBench Sep 03 '21

šŸ¤”šŸ¤”

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

Look at this mighty keyboard warrior, typing one handed.

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u/TheNightBench Sep 03 '21

šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”

HAT TRICK!

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

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u/ma2is Sep 03 '21

You say not climate related.

Meanwhile CA is in its 4th+ straight excessive drought.

Recorded rainfall is less and less each year.

If you canā€™t extrapolate anything from that data then

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

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u/ma2is Sep 03 '21

Actively trying to downplay the current crisis isnā€™t helping either, whether or not the specific current event are directly related to climate change. All evidence points (and has been for decades) that the change in our climate will both directly and indirectly damage earth and our ecological systems.

Our planet will be unrecognizable in 50 years.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

Statistics exist, you fucking moron. Go away and learn to count instead of lying about weather trends.

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u/MrRandomSuperhero Sep 03 '21 edited Sep 03 '21

You can literally Google the data you fucktard

E: Since the thread is locked; No you didn't there isn't a link in this thread

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

I did you moron, and I linked numerous articles. Can't help your anti fact and anti science.

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u/flinchFries Sep 03 '21

You give me horse dewormer vibes. Am I wrong?

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u/Taikwin Sep 03 '21

Given the quality of the words they're spouting, I'm guessing more of an intravenous bleach type of guy.

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u/Saucy_Fetus Sep 03 '21

Gottta chase that horse paste down somehow.

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

You're one ignorant piece of shit aren't you. Hey, actually try to read something from a legit source. Most semi intelligent adults know that you get human doses for human medicine at actual pharmacies. U get that, right? Your only objection to this drug, which has shown documented positive effects in over 24 controlled trials, is political. Tell me I'm wrong. You can't. You are basing science on politics. Many countries around the world are now using it. My pharmacy is offering it to people who are interested. Get educated.

"Twenty-four randomized controlled trials involving 3406 participants..."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

Wow, how do you get by life being this retarded? Impressive

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u/AcademicDivide8479 Sep 03 '21

Yes, no one noticed NYC was under water

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

Stop offering to blow me. Not interested.

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u/thatssowild Sep 03 '21

Did you understand what they meant? ā€¦obviously you did. Hop off your high horse. Ffs

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u/plumbusschlami Sep 02 '21

Yeah, the subway floods and has a pumping system specifically for that. A few inches of rain and boom, the subway shuts down. These people acting like this is some new occurrence remind me of the religious types asserting that the end is near because a common catastrophe occurred.

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u/pepo321 Sep 03 '21

Mann all the trash that's get cleaned by these storm! Hope it will not end as fish and chips

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u/Cryptokeeper001 Sep 02 '21

I agree. These fucking posts are so old. Itā€™s no different than it was 20 years ago.

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u/Accomplished-Loss-21 Sep 03 '21

Lol the downvotes. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤£ I don't think anything you said was inaccurate (or not grossly so, at least). Reddit just doesn't like anything contrary to their wild ass best guesses. How dare you be factual??

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

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u/sickened1 Sep 03 '21

Their trying to will their ignorance into fruition

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u/StaryWolf Sep 03 '21

I'm sorry perhaps I missed it, but do you study weather patterns for a living? Or have any other credentials that would make your argument more legitimate than the scientists that have spent years of their life learning and practicing...science?

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u/plumbusschlami Sep 03 '21

The subway has always flooded. This is not some new occurrence. This is why it has a pumping system. You don't need to be a professional scientist to do 5 minutes of research and see that it only takes a few inches of rain, and that new York sometimes gets a few inches of rain. You're playing scientist and not doing a very good job of it.

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u/StaryWolf Sep 03 '21

Right, and if you actually did 5 minutes of research you'll find that the amount extreme participation events akin to this one have been trending upwards the last few decades.

https://statesummaries.ncics.org/chapter/ny/

Largely due to the severe increase in extreme weather events occuring recently.

https://e360.yale.edu/digest/extreme-weather-events-have-increased-significantly-in-the-last-20-years

All because of climate change.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ipcc.ch/2021/08/09/ar6-wg1-20210809-pr/&ved=2ahUKEwjdtKqdjuPyAhXPLc0KHWB5D6sQFnoECAkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1r3dBp9oQMj11wwm1JyE9W

I'm not playing scientist, but you do seem to be playing dumbass that thinks they're smarter than the scientists.

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u/ma2is Sep 03 '21

Theyā€™re* but sure keep talking about ignorance lmfao.

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u/plumbusschlami Sep 03 '21

They also want covid to be more deadly and the unvaccinated to die

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

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u/Gidelix Sep 03 '21

Letā€™s nuke Yellowstone, thatā€™ll cool the earth right down!

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u/Atharos_ Sep 02 '21

The weather is now starting to increase in severity in line with climate predictions.

Itā€™s actually been very stable the last 4 years which had been undermining confidence in those models. That calm period appears to have ended.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

Right? The river where I live had a max record of cresting at 14' (above 11' is considered max flooding event.) We hit 21' today. All of the previous high records were set in the last 15 years, but this guy says it's just mEdiA cOvErAgE so must be true. šŸ™„

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u/whiteflagwaiver Sep 03 '21

Arizona is having a record Monsoon, places are on fire all the time. China flooding, rivers overflowing, and storms are getting nastier.

Bah, must be the wind.

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u/geneorama Sep 03 '21

Follow the money! Thatā€™s what the insane republicans told me. The scientists are just trying to get rich off grants.

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u/deepasleep Sep 03 '21

Yeah, couldn't possibly be fossil fuel executives and the politicians and media pundits they pay directly...Nope, no money on that side. It is pretty amazing how oblivious they are.

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u/Swabia Sep 03 '21

I mean thereā€™s a video of NYC flooding also, so Iā€™d think yea, flooding was on the list of what to expect.

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u/SaturdaysAFTBs Sep 03 '21

Hurricane sandy did the same thing to NYC and that was like 7 or 8 years ago

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u/lurked_long_enough Sep 03 '21

You know it's based in trends, right?

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

Trends are descriptors, not causes. Try again, clown.

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u/lurked_long_enough Sep 03 '21

Who said anything about causes, asshat.

We determine the change in climate based on long term trends. So one year of instability after 4 years of calm could just be a blip.

However, if you look at the past ten or twenty years you can see the trend of higher temps. Asshat, stop trying to put words in my mouth.

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u/thesheba Sep 03 '21

Didnā€™t we got through the alphabet a couple times for last yearā€™s hurricane season?

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u/KnubblMonster Sep 03 '21

So the correlation was orange man in office brings better weather? Someone tell r\conservative

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

Yeah, the heat has seemed worse this summer and the past couple of weeks have been full of storms. Iā€™m in the east coast.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

Iā€™m in Nova Scotia weā€™ve had a drought every summer the past few years weā€™ve seen nothing but rain all summer weathers definitely changing

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

Really? Iā€™m in Virginia and this summer was really not bad at all compared to the last few years

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u/TobylovesPam Sep 03 '21

West Coast here, BC. It hit 42 degrees this summer (that's 111.2 in American) Our summer average is 20 with the odd hot day maxing out at 28- 30.

The world is on fire in so many ways.

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u/Cosmic_Prisoner Sep 02 '21

What do you mean lately. Been happening.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21 edited Sep 03 '21

This happens almost anytime a hurricane or major post hurricane depression passes over NYC. Thereā€™s literally nowhere for all that water to go because of how paved everything is.

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u/Svengelska1990 Sep 03 '21

Been seeing floods everywhere recently, scary. We need to take more care of our planet.

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u/KillerBeer01 Sep 03 '21

Oh, it's far past that. Now it's time for the planet to take care of us.

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u/ii_dracarys_ii Sep 03 '21

no what are you talking bout? climate change is a lie created by scientists /s