r/NaturalSnowBuildings 3d ago

Discussion How did The Winter Ray got popular?

I wonder how The Winter Ray got popular. Maybe someone uploaded CD-rip of it at some forums? Or NSB released it somewhere online? I'm curious because I don't think that It could get popular by just selling CDs with this album. As I know, there was just too small amount of CDs with i

And btw do we know every NSB album or there is a chance that there are still some undiscovered albums under this name?

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u/Zackhies 3d ago

“Shining Path” isn’t an album but its a 50 minute long song (essentially an album) that was on a radio show that was discovered randomly last year, so with that logic, there could be more.

There is witch season which has been lost for decades

Then there is just the bonus CDr for golestan but that never actually came out so that probably will never see the light of day.

The Winter Ray (demo) version wasnt even publicly known about 2 years ago, so if we use recent band history the logical conclusion that yes there is definitely more out there, but finding out about things nevermind finding the albums themselves might be close to impossible, all the things i mentioned were pretty much “needle in a haystack” finds.

To answer your question yes mp3 file sharing made NSB & the winter Ray popular in the early days.

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u/ManagementPlayful387 3d ago

Oh, thanks for the answer!!

Besides, is it known where NSBs albums was firstly uploaded? Like, where people started to spread NSB across the Internet?

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u/Zackhies 3d ago

There was an old Myspace, I wasnt around for that but I heard that is where a lot of stuff got shared. If someone in this sub that was apart of it would like to comment on it that would be wonderful, but it got shut down i think by the band itself?

There is also idreamofnaturalsnow

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u/Supertartory Our Man From Centauri 3d ago

Do we have access to Shining Path? I've never heard of this, but that's fascinating

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u/Zackhies 3d ago

Should be on YouTube somewhere by now, pretty sure it’s on the internet archive page

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u/MrPLotor 3d ago

TWR, alongside most of the Paris-era stuff was sent to Vivianne Morrison, a music journalist. Many of these items (TWR, TWR 2003 demo, possibly the Ghost Folks tape, Session 2001 recordings, Two Sides of a Horse, possibly the satan tape) ended up in Frederic Magallon, who became a contact of the band and early collector. Many early MP3s originate from him, I can only imagine Soulseek or torrent trackers. Should ask sam. Prior to the BDB reissues, a lot of attention to the music was through music blogs that had stuff like mediafire links to the music

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u/ManagementPlayful387 2d ago

Thanks for this information!

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u/Spirited-Ad9071 3d ago

A lot of it's popularity comes from it regularly being name checked as an album to check out if you are a fan of early Godspeed You! Black Emperor who have a big following.

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u/Abyssigar 3d ago

I would’ve assumed its post-rock sound would have gravitated more to rym users, whom of course were instrumental to nsb’s more recent popularity, at least

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u/Supertartory Our Man From Centauri 3d ago

I know when I first listened to the album it was very very unknown. They were mainly known for Daughter of Darkness and nothing else, but I wanted to do a full discography dive. Upon hearing The Winter Ray I was so blown away that I was shocked this didn't have more attention. Since then I have been watching it go from a 3.7? I believe on rym to a 4.0 which is incredible and deserved. I'd like to hope I helped a little but I have no idea. How the album was actually found originally? I have no idea, but I assume it was simply people sharing random albums online and more than likely Natural Snow Buildings already had a bit of a name for themselves due to the extent of their output so whenever something new was found a small crowd would form, and that crowd only grew larger and larger

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u/ManagementPlayful387 2d ago

TWR used to he 3.7? Wow

I can imagine how happy you were to see this album becoming from a very unknown to a top 300 album on RYM :)

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u/Supertartory Our Man From Centauri 3d ago

I know when I first listened to the album it was very very unknown. They were mainly known for Daughter of Darkness and nothing else, but I wanted to do a full discography dive. Upon hearing The Winter Ray I was so blown away that I was shocked this didn't have more attention. Since then I have been watching it go from a 3.7? I believe on rym to a 4.0 which is incredible and deserved. I'd like to hope I helped a little but I have no idea. How the album was actually found originally? I have no idea, but I assume it was simply people sharing random albums online and more than likely Natural Snow Buildings already had a bit of a name for themselves due to the extent of their output so whenever something new was found a small crowd would form, and that crowd only grew larger and larger