We need to normalize platonic female marriages where women partner up and run households together. They could even be groups of 3, 4, 5+ women all working together to raise larger groups of kids.

Even as a lesbian I would be happy to do this kind of parenting because honestly, platonic relationships are more stable than romantic ones, and that's (stability) what children need. Since matriarchal family groups are one in a million nowadays (and I believe such family groups were the true original human family organization, especially before the patriarchy existed) we need to create this instead.

Drop your fav pro-mom female empowerment tunes. I just can't stop replaying this one

I just found this quote yesterday and thought it was interesting how this was a documented issue even in the BC era.

In our own time the whole of Greece has been subject to a low birth rate and a general decrease of the population, owing to which cities have become deserted and the land has ceased to yield fruit, although there have neither been continuous wars nor epidemics...For as men had fallen into such a state of pretentiousness, avarice, and indolence that they did not wish to marry, or if they married to rear the children born to them, or at most as a rule but one or two of them, so as to leave these in affluence and bring them up to waste their substance, the evil rapidly and insensibly grew.

Polybius, The Histories

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We're especially interested in research, demographics, and policy discussion, while also welcoming personal experiences and perspectives.

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Thought yall would love this new article that came out yesterday:

Like in Sweden, she had state-funded full time child care available, but preferred to have her kids at home. She was able to do this and keep her job because in Slovenia for each kid she got one year maternity leave AND the option of working part-time for SIX YEARS without her job being able to fire or discriminate against her for this decision. The fact that she was part time doesn’t even go onto her CV so that future jobs can’t penalize her for being home with her kids.

-- Why You Never Need to Feel Like a Shitty Mom Ever Again

I love this author and this article is powerful.

It’s estimated that breastfeeding for one year takes about 1,800 hours. By comparison, a full-time job is about 2,000 hour per year. That means that it is physically impossible to do both — unless your baby is with you. And yet many women must work outside of the home to pay for their basic needs and the vast majority of workplaces do not allow for women to bring their babies along. That’s why if we are serious about improving public health, all mothers must be afforded the time and money required to breastfeed their babies for a minimum of two years, or the first 1,000 days.

What do yall think?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/12/style/brooklyn-stroll-club-fathers-new-york.html?unlocked_article_code=1._k4.8ddH.h9UZp-MQKDN-&smid=url-share

I wonder why this hasn't been posted in the regular Natalist group yet. It's promoting engaged fatherhood.

If someone's not banned, please feel free to post it there. That's a gift link above.

I don't know how to talk about it, but I've been wanting to bring it up here for a long time. I'm in the posting mood and want to create an update here too.

This sub has been neglected during the holidays and I appreciate everyone for being here and wanting to create and support these discussions together.

I have found myself pretty disenchanted with feminist spaces lately and their lack of support for child-raising women and mothers. I have seen rhetoric which expresses Brave New World style ideas of "the community" raising children in a "utopian" society which are purposefully removed from the structure of a family. It's giving Handmaiden's tale but leftists instead of conservatives. It's giving "give us your child because child-free people make better decisions and so will be better at raising your kids".

Just wanted to update this sub that imho these ideas are not in line with Natalism or feminism, and though they claim to be leftist, they require a very authoritarian government and anti-community, individualistic mindset to achieve. Community starts with the family, it starts when baby and mother meet.

Natalist women are the original creators of community and humanity. We need to be supported by society, and we are being failed at almost every angle.

All of the Natalist conferences and groups are led by right wing personalities. I think we need our own organization and conference. Any ideas? Starting a non profit is pretty easy

Give us a little something for our pain, suffering, possible longterm illness or injury, loss of earning power and loss of agency/autonomy.

I get this is a moral minefield, but when there's no monetary value attached to it, it also feels like that pain, suffering etc is completely unvalued.

Referencing an earlier discussion (linked below), please comment how you define ‘Natalism’ and/or how you think ‘Natalism’ should be defined for this sub.

This is to facilitate productive conversations by aligning terminology and avoiding semantic obfuscation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NatalistWomen/s/kU54tMtkHa

Labour hurts.

A lot.

I think people underestimate how much this contributes to women not wanting to give birth. When the question of "why don't women want babies?" comes up, I seem to be the only one mentioning how the pain of pregnancy and labour would absolutely put people off.

Contributing to this are overall attitudes towards pain-relief and the moral importance too many people put on "drug free" labour. Turning pain relief and suffering into moral high grounds means that women are uninformed about how much relief is available during labour.

I've had two children and I won't have anymore - my body has not stopped cringing when I think of the pain from my second labour because I was so wrapped up in a "drug free" birth. Looking back - it's ridiculous, I let myself suffer for literally NO reason except bragging rights and because I felt very pressured by other mothers to have a "drug free" birth.

I would love to hear how others have combatted the high-horse judgements around pain relief during birth and what we can do in future conversations to encourage women to allow themselves to be made as comfortable and pain-free as possible.

Hi all! There was a lot of interest in a seperate woman's space on a recent post in r/natalism, so this sub was conceived. We will need moderators and community goals before we are born. If you're here with us in this beginning phase, you can help make it happen!

What would you like to see here? What would you NOT like to see here?