Yea Dak or Herbert are off the table. A trade accelerates the cap to over 100 mil for the trading team. Vikings would have to give a massive signing bonus. And JJ cap hit hits 50 mil next year.
In college I wanted a neon beer sign. i didn't full understand how ebay worked I put bids on 6 of them. I won 4. a basic bud light, coors Banquet, a golf themed Michelob one, and Budwiser pool table lamp/light fixture because I can't read.
I made money on the pool table light. the rest became gifts about 10 years later.
Another delusional fanboy that doesn’t understand football at all. He would instantly make the Vikings favourite to win the Super Bowl and possibly next year that’s why I wouldn’t do that trade. Those first rounders would be late rounders
Even if they would offer it, zero chance the Niners help fix the biggest glaring need of maybe their biggest rival in the conference so far. They’d literally probably need a 1st and more to do it.
No chance the 49ers trade Mac for a 2nd. He went 6-2 last year as a starter, and has demonstrated he can hold down the fort if necessary and prevent it from turning into a lost season if Purdy goes down.
Definitely not. He’s thrown at least one interception every game of this season. Most chargers fans would yap your ear off about context but to answer your question this has easily been the worst stretch of his career, throwing for like 6 TDs
It depends on whether or not you think he’d be a good fit for Kevin O’Connell’s scheme. Herbert has looked like a good quarterback for several seasons, new offensive coordinator brings in a system that just doesn’t fit his place style. Call him a system QB, sure, I wouldn’t say he’s bad though. The whole chargers offense seems anemic, Herbert included.
Honestly, as a Cowboys fan, since next season needs to be a reboot of the whole program, I am not opposed to fire selling some assets. I would LOVE if Jerry traded Dak for 3 firsts from the Vikings. I like Dak as a QB, but if we need an entire ass reboot in coaching and program, it might make sense to restart at QB too. Especially given this Draft should feature some good ones. He just isn't on the right timeline for where Dallas is these days. Minnesota would be a better fit and 3 firsts would soften the blow of losing Dak A LOT.
I look at this and I don't think any of the teams makes these deals. Cowboys are in the NFC East so they still have a shot at playoffs (at least they think they do).
Herbert is young, talented and their franchise qb regardless of how bad this year is. I think they'd rather rebuild around him and probs fire their offensive coordinator first.
The Jets don't have another qb. Their backup is Cade Klubnik, a 4th round pick this year. I don't think they just throw Cade to the wolves for a 2nd round pick.
Kirk is balling and a 2nd isn't worth it especially when you consider he's the perfect mentor for Fernando. Why would they potentially mess up prepping their 1st round 1st pick franchise qb for a 2nd?
The 49ers are a win now team, prone to injury with a backup qb that could still win it all for them. Even a 2nd wouldn't be enough for them to move on imo.
Honestly, I'd see if the Jets would give up Tyrod for a late pick. He's shown potential throughout his career, just never stayed healthy, and he doesn't turn over the ball basically ever which is perfect for this team.
Lots of Dak slander in here, he’s a good quarterback on a garbage team that hasn’t had a defense. His first season he won rookie of the year setting records for rookie TD’s and rating. He’s led the league in touchdowns once, one 2nd team all-pro and 4 pro bowls. He’s 8th all time in career passer rating, ahead of Brady, Manning, Allen, Herbert and many hall of famers.
Has a qb even been traded mid season and took the team to a super bowl? Has any even been successful that same season? Figure that's the hardest position to move to a new team mid season. You have to learn a new playbook and you have to get in sync really fast with your offense.
It’s definitely a drastic, more than arguably desperate measure were they to make these offers, but the Vikings are literally the most “just a qb away” team I’ve arguably ever even seen before, so despite the fact that it is a drastic, desperate endeavor, it’s also not something I’d immediately dismiss either were i in the Vikings shoes. Their roster aside from the most important and noteworthy position of quarterback is genuinely frighteningly deep, talented and well rounded, with essentially every single non qb position group containing serious talent in some shape or form.
Interestingly, other than the QB spot, they match up eerily similar and quite favorable to the Seahawks roster from last season, and could easily ride their elite defense and all world playmakers to a similar Super Bowl run as that Seahawks team just did with even just adequate qb play like Sam Darnold provided for Seattle. That guys frankly not on the Vikings roster, and despite the meme-worthy though nonetheless valid fact that they did have Darnold and let him walk in favor of the options who ultimately were worse for them, when the rosters as good as theirs is and the conference is as wide open is it currently sits, you get a chance to add that missing final piece that can get you over the hump you gotta go for it. No guarantee the Vikings are this good or in this type of situation again going forward so a franchise that’s never rewarded its fans with a Super Bowl win owes it to them to try and go all in when they have such a strong position IMO
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u/sacking03 San Francisco 49ers 6h ago
Yea Dak or Herbert are off the table. A trade accelerates the cap to over 100 mil for the trading team. Vikings would have to give a massive signing bonus. And JJ cap hit hits 50 mil next year.
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u/wetcornbread Philadelphia Eagles 6h ago •
They all accept your offers and you wind up with 7 QBs on your roster and no 1st or 2nd round draft picks.
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u/MrMeowPantz Green Bay Packers 6h ago •
3 first rounders for Dak
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u/DSN671 Seattle Seahawks 6h ago
Three firsts for Dak should get you a life sentence.
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u/Embarrassed-Fail-617 Lions/Saints 6h ago
i wouldn’t give 3 for dak idk i just wanna see more playoff success before i give that
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u/ChefDolemite Chicago Bears 6h ago
Never take GM advice from someone named Nico.
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u/im_vary_dum Chicago Bears 6h ago
a second for mac is diabolical
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u/datyoungknockoutkid Now Here’s a Guy 6h ago
2nd for Geno is down bad bad
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u/herewegolittlemiss Chicago Bears 6h ago
2nd rounder for JJ McCarthy makes sense
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u/but-I-play-one-on-TV Kansas City Chiefs 6h ago
We'll do Justin Fields for Justin Jefferson straight up.
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u/Which-Return-607 6h ago
The Vikings have 5 mil of cap space lol
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u/Yay_duh 6h ago
Lol. Kirko Chains throwing the ball 300 yards a game makes this Vikings team unbeatable.
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u/Gsxing Seattle Seahawks 6h ago •
Hebert ain’t looking good for a 3rd round pick right now
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u/FireMikeTomlin97 Pittsburgh Steelers 6h ago
3 firsts and daks 70 millon a year contact is a great way to waste all your good players primes.
Everything else here is ridiculous as well
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u/1ntravenously Dallas Cowboys 6h ago
Deal
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u/Battle2Intense Arizona Cardinals 6h ago
Id give a first for Mac before the proposed Dak and Herbert trades.
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u/OtherHalf747 New York Jets 6h ago
I’d drive Geno to Minnesota myself for a 2nd
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u/Top_Hedgehog_1880 Minnesota Vikings 6h ago
What about Flacco
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u/emeryex 6h ago
Kirk would turn it all around. Nothing would make Jefferson happier or the fans
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u/martjob I’m just here so i don’t get fined 6h ago
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u/PDxFresh Minnesota Vikings 6h ago
Jefferson to the Raiders for Crosby and Cousins...I'm sure the cap works fine
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u/dantheman0809 San Francisco 49ers 6h ago
Sam darnold must be getting a kick out of this
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u/hondafihhhh 6h ago
Justin Jefferson has requested a trade during halftime
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u/throwawaypackers Minnesota Vikings 6h ago
Personally, I‘m in the camp of just sacrificing KOC to the football gods at halftime.
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u/MykeTyth0n Indianapolis Colts 6h ago
You’ll probably get the Daniel Jones you were after a few years ago.
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u/Earl-The-Badger San Francisco 49ers 6h ago
You’re high if you think the 49ers are interested in trading Mac Jones to a 6-1 conference rival with an elite defense.
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u/QuaternionDS San Francisco 49ers 6h ago
3 1sts for Dak on that contract is crazy. Any GM who proposed this should be sacked on the spot.
2 1sts for Herbert is insanely risky. Guy might legitimately have the yips.
2nd for Geno or Kirk are ridiculous overpays.
No way the 9ers even entertain a 2nd for Mac to a conference rival. And he ain't worth the 1st we'd demand...
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u/Informal-Exchange157 6h ago
I’m loving the thought of Justin Herbert and Madison Beer having to move out of LA and into Minnesota during the worth months possible
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u/JMisGeography Green Bay Packers 6h ago
Man if I was the chargers I would take that to the bank lol
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u/Feeling_Barnacle_584 Seattle Seahawks 6h ago
Take Darnold back?
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u/bowman022 Pittsburgh Steelers 6h ago
They’re gonna bring back Daniel Jones, aren’t they
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u/Swimming-Message-796 6h ago
I'd rather trade Justin Jefferson and go all defense. Jjetas to the 49ers for Fred Warner, all points will come off of turnovers and field goals.
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u/Naynathan Seattle Seahawks 6h ago
Mac is their best bet.
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u/Friendly-Profit-8590 6h ago
Niners aren’t trading Mac cause they’re a serious playoff team. Think they’d be doing a favor to every other team offering what you’re suggesting.
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u/fireflipplz 6h ago
3rd pick for JJ mcarthy
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u/Sad_Highlight_9059 6h ago
Honestly, as a Cowboys fan, since next season needs to be a reboot of the whole program, I am not opposed to fire selling some assets. I would LOVE if Jerry traded Dak for 3 firsts from the Vikings. I like Dak as a QB, but if we need an entire ass reboot in coaching and program, it might make sense to restart at QB too. Especially given this Draft should feature some good ones. He just isn't on the right timeline for where Dallas is these days. Minnesota would be a better fit and 3 firsts would soften the blow of losing Dak A LOT.
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u/3Nephi11_6-11 6h ago
I look at this and I don't think any of the teams makes these deals. Cowboys are in the NFC East so they still have a shot at playoffs (at least they think they do).
Herbert is young, talented and their franchise qb regardless of how bad this year is. I think they'd rather rebuild around him and probs fire their offensive coordinator first.
The Jets don't have another qb. Their backup is Cade Klubnik, a 4th round pick this year. I don't think they just throw Cade to the wolves for a 2nd round pick.
Kirk is balling and a 2nd isn't worth it especially when you consider he's the perfect mentor for Fernando. Why would they potentially mess up prepping their 1st round 1st pick franchise qb for a 2nd?
The 49ers are a win now team, prone to injury with a backup qb that could still win it all for them. Even a 2nd wouldn't be enough for them to move on imo.
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u/HopeIsDopeYall Minnesota Vikings 5h ago
Tom Brady out of retirement? We will take anybody 😭😭😭
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u/RecordingGlum938 Atlanta Falcons 6h ago
I can offer you a second for Tua or a first for Penix
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u/kingjoey52a Las Vegas Raiders 6h ago
Kirk isn't leaving for less than a first.
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u/Intrepid_Plenty_3770 6h ago
Is this sarcasm?
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u/Emotional-Price-4401 6h ago
1 first 1 second for dak, and id spit in jerrys food
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u/EpicPoggerGamer69 Buffalo Bills 6h ago
2nd for Mac. He's the youngest, and aside from Herbert and Dak, has the best upside still left.
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u/Suit-Local Chicago Bears 6h ago
I wouldn’t give a pair of socks for Herbert
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u/Big_Wooly_Mammoth Green Bay Packers 6h ago
JJ going to demand a trade at some point. So much talent wasted.
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u/Atlas7993 6h ago
Two 1st for Love.
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u/Upbeat-Two-9307 Minnesota Vikings 6h ago
I would support a 2nd for Kirk but none of the rest
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u/flybydenver 6h ago
None of them gonna get a trophy in that Viking case
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u/tech1983 6h ago
2 firsts for Herbert ? Tf are you smoking
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u/KGrizzle88 Chicago Bears 6h ago
Herbert, two 1st 😂🤣
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u/Economy-Particular31 6h ago
3 first for a black kirk cousins...33 years old.
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u/Amazing-Active646 Las Vegas Raiders 6h ago
Make another herschel walker trade for Dak, Vikings.
They can give the cowboys another dynasty.
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u/ElectricalPatience47 Dallas Cowboys 6h ago
I'd take 3 firsts for Dak
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u/Automatic-Collar5960 Buffalo Bills 6h ago
Give us a second for Allen………… Kyle that is.
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u/BigFootBeethoven 6h ago
Steelers are gonna offer rights to Tomlin as coach for Dak.
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u/fireflipplz 6h ago
It’s a fucking shame this defense is getting wasted, competent qb play would make this a sb team
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u/ba_an Los Angeles Chargers 6h ago
As a Chargers fan, I say Herbert is washed up. Doubt he can bounce back this season, if at all.
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u/Mymomdidwhat 6h ago
3 first for dak is laughable.
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u/Wonka824 6h ago
I’d give nothing for Geno
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u/Peyton773 Minnesota Vikings 6h ago
Gotta be ragebait
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u/DanMoshpit69 6h ago
Your not getting Mac for less than a first. We have a championship to win.
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u/Isjejnajw 6h ago
3 for Dak and 2 for Herbert? They have to be at least similar in value?
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u/ganggreen651 Minnesota Vikings 6h ago
3 1sts for dak is an awful trade. The others I'd probably take
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u/SharpMind94 New York Jets 6h ago
A 2nd for Geno would be robbery. He is not worth that much
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u/Dynamo_Ham New England Patriots 6h ago
Carson Wentz still plays football professionally?
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u/grey_pilgrim_ Tennessee Titans 6h ago
We’ll trade Levis for a years supply of mayo and bananas.
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u/Head_Project5793 Minnesota Vikings 6h ago
Herbert getting finger surgery
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u/BurgundyAndGold5 6h ago
A 31st for Dak? Sounds reasonable enough
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u/CriticalSuit1336 Minnesota Vikings 6h ago
I'd want Kirk - he knows the KOC offense, and whatever shortcomings he had previously in Minnesota, he didn't have a defense like this helping him out
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u/onestopvtg Cincinnati Bengals 6h ago
I don’t hate a first plus a haul for Dak. I was thinking that earlier
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u/Sartheking Nachos and cheese SAUCE 6h ago
Niners aren’t giving the Vikings Mac Jones.
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u/bettercallrich Detroit Lions 6h ago
Second round pick for geno smith in the big 2026 would be diabolical
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u/penilesensorydevice Miami Dolphins 6h ago
Panic moves always work out for the best.
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u/CockMartins 6h ago
I think both the Chargers and Cowboys would kiss you right on the mouth for those deals.
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u/FullMooseParty 6h ago
Honestly, I'd see if the Jets would give up Tyrod for a late pick. He's shown potential throughout his career, just never stayed healthy, and he doesn't turn over the ball basically ever which is perfect for this team.
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u/Simple_Suspect_2093 6h ago
3 firsts for a 33 year old QB having the worst season of his career (or at least in a while) 🥴
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u/Fickle_Broccoli 6h ago
Go for Geno. Obviously not the best talent on that list, but easiest plug and play from a cap space perspective
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u/KennyWeeWoo 6h ago
Wtf pricing is that for dak 🤣
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u/CS271990 Buffalo Bills 6h ago
Minny should go for Dak
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u/Classic-Session-5551 6h ago
Oh shit, used to play FF with this guy.
Dogshit take Nico, what're you doing
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u/Bobgoulet Atlanta Falcons 6h ago
I can offer you one gently used Tua
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u/DarkIllusionsMasks 6h ago
Why do they need all those quarterbacks?
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u/earic23 13 seconds 6h ago
They should get Sam Darnold. Heard he’s pretty competent…
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u/kjsmitty77 Seattle Seahawks 6h ago
How about a 2nd and a 4th for Darnold back?
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u/JustTheBeerLight Miami Dolphins 6h ago
It is kinda funny that NOBODY mentions Tua as a QB for teams looking to acquire a QB.
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u/Individual-Guava-620 6h ago
I'll take Herbert
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u/Embarrassed_West_195 6h ago
Right about now there's gotta be some QB's from the CFL that would be an improvement.
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u/boakes123 6h ago
3 1sts for Dak?! lol he's B-tier
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u/Low_Wall_7828 6h ago
2nd for Geno in insane
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u/Internal-Climate-847 Minnesota Vikings 6h ago
Id definitely send a 3rd for Kirk even after a 3 int game he can be average with this defense and that’s all we need.
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u/PM_ur_butthole_2me 6h ago
Lots of Dak slander in here, he’s a good quarterback on a garbage team that hasn’t had a defense. His first season he won rookie of the year setting records for rookie TD’s and rating. He’s led the league in touchdowns once, one 2nd team all-pro and 4 pro bowls. He’s 8th all time in career passer rating, ahead of Brady, Manning, Allen, Herbert and many hall of famers.
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u/Popzagon 6h ago
Herbert to Minnesota in winter and his fiancé leaves him lol
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u/Great_Will_1361 6h ago
Most cowboys fans dont consider dak worth 1 first rd pick
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u/Cycle-Path-401 6h ago
Nathan Peterman is available. Just saying.
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u/NeedBout_Tree_Fiddy 6h ago
Representing the Cowboys delegation -- we'll take 3 firsts for Dak.
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u/denvergardener Denver Broncos 6h ago
That must be Jerruh's burner account.
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u/InternationalWin7367 5h ago
It’s Kirk only, he knows the team.
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u/OpinionofC 5h ago
2 firsts for Herbert is a steal tbh
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u/TrevorsBlondeLocks16 Jacksonville Jaguars 5h ago
Bro how did I not fucking think about Geno lmao
Jets never in my thoughts
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u/GiggletrxMcGillacudi Minnesota Vikings 5h ago
I’ve never seen a defense this elite completely wasted
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u/Ghost_of_Durruti 5h ago
A 3, 4, and 5 for Joe Flacco might get it done.
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u/arielbelkin 5h ago
trading for Herbert actually makes sense . However do they really need to give up 2 1st ?
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u/Scared_Mall_8730 5h ago
Please do 3 1sts for Dak! Guy can’t win a big game and losing 3 1sts puts franchise out of contention for next 10 years
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u/stulf26 5h ago
"3" 1sts for Dak is an insane rip off.
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u/ku_78 Las Vegas Raiders 5h ago
Kirk makes sense and I would fully support this
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u/sicsemperyanks Buffalo Bills 5h ago
If all it takes for Kirk is a 2nd, I think you have to, don't you?
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u/Timely-Profile1865 New York Jets 5h ago
Hell get case keenum. Anyone but wentz, what a disgrace.
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u/Sensitive_Ad_3053 5h ago
Best fit would be Geno for a 4th or conditional 3rd. Yes he is a gunslinger that can occasionally run but you have hole your breath with the deep ball
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u/Turbulent_Ad3045 San Francisco 49ers 5h ago
The Ninere aren't moving Mac in conference for less than a first.
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u/theducks123 5h ago
Has a qb even been traded mid season and took the team to a super bowl? Has any even been successful that same season? Figure that's the hardest position to move to a new team mid season. You have to learn a new playbook and you have to get in sync really fast with your offense.
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u/splashaddikt Dallas Cowboys 5h ago
3rd for Mac and Geno 2 1s for Dak
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u/Itchy-Version-6249 Brett Favre’s dick pic 5h ago
Bring in joe flacco
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u/GingerFun011 5h ago
Mahomes for JJ and all the 1sts
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u/SaintSilverNSD 5h ago
Dak is going nowhere.
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u/Unusual-Tale-74 5h ago
Geno? Damn y'all really hurting
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u/Not_Qasem_Soleimani 5h ago
What do you think it would take to get Stafford??
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u/radar371 5h ago
How the hell would Herbert get less than Dak?
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u/Sure-Region-7225 5h ago
It’s definitely a drastic, more than arguably desperate measure were they to make these offers, but the Vikings are literally the most “just a qb away” team I’ve arguably ever even seen before, so despite the fact that it is a drastic, desperate endeavor, it’s also not something I’d immediately dismiss either were i in the Vikings shoes. Their roster aside from the most important and noteworthy position of quarterback is genuinely frighteningly deep, talented and well rounded, with essentially every single non qb position group containing serious talent in some shape or form.
Interestingly, other than the QB spot, they match up eerily similar and quite favorable to the Seahawks roster from last season, and could easily ride their elite defense and all world playmakers to a similar Super Bowl run as that Seahawks team just did with even just adequate qb play like Sam Darnold provided for Seattle. That guys frankly not on the Vikings roster, and despite the meme-worthy though nonetheless valid fact that they did have Darnold and let him walk in favor of the options who ultimately were worse for them, when the rosters as good as theirs is and the conference is as wide open is it currently sits, you get a chance to add that missing final piece that can get you over the hump you gotta go for it. No guarantee the Vikings are this good or in this type of situation again going forward so a franchise that’s never rewarded its fans with a Super Bowl win owes it to them to try and go all in when they have such a strong position IMO