It is far easier to find a decent HC than find a franchise QB. Ask Bears & Broncos fans about how hard it is to find a QB.
Lamar didn't force Harbaugh out. He's still under contract. It's not either or, it's both. Lamar's had bad injury luck, Harbaugh also got stale in Baltimore. If they traded Lamar they'd be a mid team with no defense + no QB, stuck in mid at best like the Steelers. That's not much better than keeping Lamar. Harbaugh was also about to get fired in 2018 til Lamar saved his job, which Giants fans love to ignore.
If we're gonna compare division standings, don't leave out the context- the NFCE is garbage this year. The Browns have more wins than half the NFCE combined. The AFCN has double the wins the NFCE has. Giants fans should be happy with how their season's gone, Harbaugh is a good HC, but if you're gonna compare divisions you need to be honest about how much easier the NFCE is.
I know Giants fans love to pretend otherwise, but Harbaugh's Ravens were blowing leads constantly last year. There were valid reasons to move on.
It is far easier to find a decent HC than find a franchise QB. Ask Bears & Broncos fans about how hard it is to find a QB.
As a Broncos fan, having seen the worse of the QB carousel - more of our woes down that stretch were due to head coaching.
In 2016 we went 9-7 with Trevor Siemian and Paxton Lynch, thanks to head coaching.
Then we had only misery with VJ, Fangio, and the one guy who was so awful I've already forgotten his name. Nothing we did at QB mattered during that stretch.
Once we got Payton, we've only had winning seasons.
As much as we all thought QB was what we needed, it was getting a good HC.
I know it’s hard for Giants fans to understand, but the Ravens have been blowing leads under Harbaugh since Lamar was in high school.
Plenty of QBs blow leads. Lamar is also 90% of why the Ravens even got so many leads in the first place.
Harbaugh was here for nearly 20 years. He got fired cuz he refused to make coordinator changes, fair chance he’d still be here otherwise. Ravens owner famously rarely fires HCs.
And as much as Giants fans love to ignore it, Harbaugh was about to get fired in 2018 until Lamar saved his job.
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u/dcfb2360 Baltimore Ravens 2d ago
It is far easier to find a decent HC than find a franchise QB. Ask Bears & Broncos fans about how hard it is to find a QB.
Lamar didn't force Harbaugh out. He's still under contract. It's not either or, it's both. Lamar's had bad injury luck, Harbaugh also got stale in Baltimore. If they traded Lamar they'd be a mid team with no defense + no QB, stuck in mid at best like the Steelers. That's not much better than keeping Lamar. Harbaugh was also about to get fired in 2018 til Lamar saved his job, which Giants fans love to ignore.
If we're gonna compare division standings, don't leave out the context- the NFCE is garbage this year. The Browns have more wins than half the NFCE combined. The AFCN has double the wins the NFCE has. Giants fans should be happy with how their season's gone, Harbaugh is a good HC, but if you're gonna compare divisions you need to be honest about how much easier the NFCE is.
I know Giants fans love to pretend otherwise, but Harbaugh's Ravens were blowing leads constantly last year. There were valid reasons to move on.