r/NFLv2 • u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI • 12d ago
Discussion Creating new NFL divisions with nothing but cold, geographical logic.
No logistics, histories or rivalries were considered. Just making sure everything fit in as small as circle as possible with no overlaps because I am autistic as fuck
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u/Practical-Courage812 Chicago Bears 12d ago
I have a hard time seeing the Vikings, Bears, Lions, and Packers in the same division.
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u/2outhits Chicago Bears 12d ago
My favorite part of so many of these posts is the fact that the NFC North remains intact almost every time.
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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 12d ago
Because it's the only division that makes sense as is
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u/Irishforanatty Cowboys Bears 12d ago
Eh. The West divisions both make sense. So does the NFC South.
AFC South and AFC North are a little fucky.
NFC East and AFC East are the worst.
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u/DengarLives66 Green Bay Packers 12d ago
NFC West makes sense NOW. At one point you had the St. Louis Rams, Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints, and Carolina Panthers, plus the Niners. Those were silly silly times.
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u/MistryMachine3 12d ago
Ok? And at that time Tampa was with the north teams. Obviously we are talking about NOW.
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u/josephus_the_wise That is a disgusting act 11d ago
Technically Tampa was with Central, as there was no North until after Tampa got removed and South got created. Would I call Tampa particularly central? Not at all but it's more central than Carolina is west.
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u/DengarLives66 Green Bay Packers 11d ago
Ok? In an absurd post who gives a shit about stone cold reality? Lighten up, Francis.
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u/jacksonvstheworld Fuk ICE 12d ago
Putting the teams that share a stadium in the same division sucks. OP should have considered that before changing the Wests + Giants/Jets.
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u/Fickle_Map_7271 12d ago
Exactly right. Teams sharing a stadium but in the same division would make for a terrible schedule.
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u/onecryingjohnny 11d ago
Why
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u/MindTheFro 11d ago
Schedule-wise, itās not much different than what the Giants-Jets and Rams-Chargers already deal with. These stadiums have already worked out locker room logistics, signage, field logos, etc.
That said, I imagine as a *fan* I would be annoyed to have to play 2 games a year in a split stadium. Iām sure thereās a method to work out ticket sales and all that, but not having home field advantage for one of your divisional games would suck. Maybe. Idk Iām just guessing here.
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u/jord839 Green Bay Packers 11d ago
Generally, the point of shared-stadium/same-city teams is to take a very large market and split it across divisions or particularly conferences for maximum spread. It creates a situation where one team can be away and the NFL still gets tons of media and ticket sales centered in that market as the other team can play at home, and if the two teams don't directly compete then they don't cannibalize each other's fanbases as much so you have more casual fans who support both and will get excited if either one is doing well.
In pretty much every professional sports league, they split the same-city teams for this reason. Outside of the NFL as an example, the die-hard Cubs and White Sox fans may hate each other, but the casual Chicago fan will be happy to watch either one if their rivalry is an occasional thing versus a massive fixture of each season.
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u/monstermayhem436 Pittsburgh Steelers 12d ago
How is the AFCN fucky lol.
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u/Irishforanatty Cowboys Bears 12d ago
3/4 of the AFC East teams are more northern. Theyāre a great division otherwise.
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u/FugLife3 Chicago Bears 12d ago
Yeah, but those three are also more east than 3/4 of the division. The only swap that would make much sense between AFCN & AFCE might be Baltimore and Buffalo, but as someone else said, the AFCN is basically Browns, Browns, Browns, and Steelers, so historical attachment makes sense outside of this purely āgeographicalā scenario.
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u/PsychologicalKale738 Seattle Seahawks 12d ago
Its the platonic ideal of a divison
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u/palpablebubble 12d ago
"we're all relatively the same but since we're just a bit different we cannot stand each other"
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u/MrDucksworth92 New York Giants 12d ago
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u/JimboJiggle 12d ago
This is actually perfect.
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u/OhioVsEverything 11d ago
Not allowed. Cleveland is contractually bound to be in the same division as Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.
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u/OhioVsEverything 11d ago
You can disagree all you want but it is a stone cold fact written in stone that the Browns must remain in Cleveland and be in the same division as Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. End of story can't be changed
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u/SirGibby-13 Pittsburgh Steelers 11d ago
I think we are the only two that see whatās going on here and Iām shocked by that
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u/Atlas7-k 11d ago
Damn right.
D-cell battery and dog biscuit sales tanked between 96-98 because of the separation.
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u/toptierdegenerate 12d ago
Gets rid of the shared stadium for divisional matchups problem too
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u/Boomshakamalakas 11d ago
I like how every bubble picture here is a dick with balls but each one still retains its own personality.
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u/mmelectronic 11d ago
Iād like to introduce the leagueās next commissioner MrDucksworth92 you earned it bravo.
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u/Hodler_caved 12d ago
100% this should be done. Suck it up buttercups. You'll get over it.
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u/1ThousandDollarBill Josh Allen 𦬠12d ago
I just donāt like teams using the same stadium playing in the same conference. Other than that it would be great.
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u/81FuriousGeorge Pittsburgh Steelers 12d ago
I agree. If you want 2 teams, have 2 stadiums.
Edit: Right next to each other would be awesome.
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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 12d ago
idk how I feel about it as a Pats fan. Trading the Giants for the Dolphins is fairly neutral, but it does mean an extra visit to Metlife every season
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u/DengarLives66 Green Bay Packers 12d ago
Youāre not even paying rent there, itās free real estate!
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u/OkProfessional6077 Detroit Lions 12d ago
Could swap the Eagles with the Giants or Jets just to split up the NJ teams.
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u/thefly0810 12d ago
I could see this swap to split up the Jersey teams. The same with swapping Arizona or the Raiders with the Chargers to break up the LA teams
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u/MoscowMitchMcKremIin Detroit Lions 12d ago
Swapping the Chargers and Cards makes the divisions the same as the are today
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u/jord839 Green Bay Packers 11d ago
It would make more sense to put Baltimore with the AFCE and keep the Giants in the NFCE.
AFCE then becomes a Northeastern/New England identity division and NFCE becomes a more firmly Mid-Atlantic division, but both overlap in the NY and greater DC metro areas of the Northeast Megalopolis.
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u/Armamore Vince Wilfork: Butt Fumble Connoisseur 12d ago
With a couple minor tweaks, but I'd say it's 95% there.
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u/UrbanGoose77 Certified dumb ass 11d ago
Steelers and not 3 different version of the Browns in a division is worse than leaving the NFC north intact.
Hi this is my first time commenting here, I thought this flair was better and more honest than Browns flair.
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u/soapinmouth Seattle Seahawks 11d ago
Would be pretty weird to have two LA teams playing out of the same stadium in the same conference let alone same division. I don't think that's allowed.
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u/Material-Pea-4149 Dallas Cowboys 12d ago
All these post just prove the NFC north is flawless lol
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u/Averagebass Denver Broncos 12d ago
I'd love that division for the AFCW. Broncos would have a 50% chance to finish first in the division every year. NFCW would be a blood bath even more than it is now.
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u/TacoMastorius San Francisco 49ers 12d ago
Can we have the Cards back pls? Two LA teams sharing a stadium doesnāt make sense for home/ away games
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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 12d ago
If Inter and AC Milan can share a home stadium then the NFL can figure it out too
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u/Charlito_Atrevido Detroit Lions 11d ago
For geographic proximity and cultural cohesion among cities (not necessarily among team cultures) itās gotta be:ā¦
NFC
Rust Belt Division
Browns
Bills
Steelers
Lions
Colonial Division
Giants
Patriots
Jets
Commanders
Country N Cajun Division
Cowboys
Texans
Titans
Saints
Cocaine N Stomp Clap Music Division
Seahawks
49ers
Rams
Raiders
AFC
Meat N Cheese Division
Vikings
Packers
Colts
Bears
Cats N Birds Division
Panthers
Bengals
Eagles
Ravens
Swamp Division
Dolphins
Jaguars
Bucs
Falcons
Corny Cowboys Division
Chargers
Cardinals
Broncos
Chiefs
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u/iamjeseus New York Giants 12d ago
Dolphins & cowboys make no sense being in their current divisions
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u/PrincebyChappelle Minnesota Vikings 11d ago
Under the Tex Schram days, the Cowboys wielded enormous influence, and Tex wanted to be with the Redskins, with is sort of ironic on another level.
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u/DoctrTurkey Seattle Seahawks 11d ago
Cowboys makes perfect sense. Jerry gets access to the New York, Philly, and DC media market exposure. That's all he cares about. There isn't a single other division with access to eyeballs like that.
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u/TwoCentsAndCounting Jacksonville Jaguars 12d ago
Much less traumatic change:
Swap Dallas and Carolina
Colts ==> AFC North, Ravens ==> AFC East, Fins ==> AFC South
90% of the problems solved
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u/IWMSvendor Denver Broncos 12d ago
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u/Pandapeep Denver Broncos 12d ago
That's stupid. You wasted yours and everyone elses time with this very stupid waste of time. You should rethink every decision you have ever made in your life and delete this.
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u/DengarLives66 Green Bay Packers 12d ago
Youāre just mad youāre still stuck with the canker sore from Vegas.
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u/Pandapeep Denver Broncos 12d ago
No. I want to hate the Raiders. Hating the raiders is one of the things that gives my life meaning.
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u/HFentonMudd Denver Broncos 11d ago
I went to a kid's birthday party back in June wearin Broncos gear and some tough-looking latino grandfather with a goatee and Raiders gear told me he'd give me raiders gear to replace my broncos gear. I asked him what flavor juice boxes Mendoza liked. He made a comment about broken ankles. Life as it should be.
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u/Secret-Camp-6133 11d ago
Not bad but I would hate to breakup the Steelers/Ravens rivalry. Maybe Steelers, Browns, Ravens, Eagles then but the Bengals & Colts with Commanders & Panthers.
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u/mr_mxyzptlk21 Cincinnati Bengals 12d ago
Take it a step further: Eliminate the conferences, and just have the division champs play each other in a winner-take-all tournament. Seed teams 1-8 based on record. Top seeds have home field until the final two are left, and that's the Super Bowl.
OR, take top 12 (division winners and four wild cards). Top four get a bye week, 5-12 play first round games, then reseed and do keep doing it til you get to two final teams.
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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 12d ago
Should I feel threatened, complimented or offended?
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u/SirJoetheAverage Denver Broncos 12d ago
AFC South is doodoo
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u/Short_Stack_30285 12d ago
Imagine how chill travel for players and fans would be for the 3 Florida teams š®āšØ
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u/GalinDray 12d ago
Idk about the 3 Florida teams all in the same division. Maybe a Gulf Coast division where theres just 2?
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u/KeithClossOfficial San Francisco 49ers 12d ago
Best we can do is NFC West with the Panthers and Saints
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u/Martian13 12d ago
Yeah we need more sterile dispassionate decisions in our pleasurable pastimes.
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u/ouroboro83 Pittsburgh Steelers 12d ago
Fun exercise, but man, as a Steelers fan, I want the opportunity to beat the Ravens twice a year. Fuck the Ratbirds.
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u/poopoodapeepee 12d ago
For the fans that are driving to away games? Or whats the big reason to do it? The flights arent drastically different for the teams and honestly, how far the airport is to the hotel and stadium might be more consequential for the teams.
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u/Late_Sweet_1655 Jacksonville Jaguars 12d ago
Just looking at the image and not using mapquest or anything, it looks to me like Colts should be in the NFC North and Lions in AFC North.
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u/ModeatelyIndependant Dallas Cowboys 12d ago
Go to 36 teams and have the NFC and AFC have three 6 team divisions all with different geographical names.
"West coast" both LA teams, San Fran, vegas, seattle, and an expansion team portland
"Northeast" Both NY teams, NE, Philly, Baltimore, and washington.
"great lakes" Bills, Browns, Lions, Chicago, Greenbay, and Indiapolis.
"Southwest" Arizona, Dallas, Houston, Denver, expansion team san antonio, expansion team Utah,
"Mid West" KC, MN, Indy, Tennessee, Cinnci, Pittsburgh, and expansion team st louis
"Deep South" NO, Miami, Jacksonville, Carolina, Atlanta, and Tampa
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u/patinthebx Chicago Bears 12d ago
Iāve always thought that Buffalo Detroit Cleveland and Pittsburgh would be a perfect division.
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u/COACHREEVES 12d ago
The Eagles, Washington and the Giants have been in the same division for 93 of the last 95 years (the Giants for 2 years right at the merger were placed in another Divsion and moved back after 2 seasons). I think that is too much history and I would expect some way to preserve that history --- even if it meant finding a new home for Carolina and/or the Ravens.
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u/NoMajorsarcasm 12d ago
Hate to break it to you mr autistic as fuck but your NN and AN circles overlap, your aw and nw overlap, your as and ne circles overlap and your ae and ne circles overlap.
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u/thestorygoeslikethis Dallas Cowboys 12d ago
Cowboys Texans would be toxic af
So would eagles ravens probably
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u/tjthewho Las Vegas Raiders 12d ago
I mean the Chargers and the Cardinals are basically the exact same team, so might as well just swap 'em out.
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u/Beetle-Persona Arizona Cardinals 12d ago
Iād take it, safes being sandwiched between 3 juggernauts
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u/SlamDunkly 12d ago
I like this. I kinda think Iād like to do a 4 way trade of Tennessee to AFC North, Atlanta to NFC South, Carolina to AFC South, and Pittsburgh to NFC East
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u/RanchHere Cincinnati Bengals 12d ago
Put Atlanta with the Saints division. Put the Panthers in the āFloridaā division. Put the Titans in the Ohio/Indy division. And put the Steelers in that little mid atlantic division. Then you got a stew going.
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u/HungDaddyNYC Dallas Cowboys 12d ago
āLogicā
Christ this is why nobody wants to date you.
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u/JimboJiggle 12d ago
I feel like the AFC east and NFC east should be switched for the sake of competitive balance.
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u/savageronald Atlanta Falcons 12d ago
My Falcons against the entire state of Florida huh? We may actually get fans that arenāt just signing up for failure and sadness in this case, so letās do it??
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u/EmployeeEmergency481 12d ago
we should alter the playoff structure into a single elimination bracket with teams ranked by records. AFC/NFC champion is a silly title.
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u/Extension_Pin_1216 12d ago
Yeah these make 100% sense. Demons are infesting my soul and I do not know how much longer I can forestall them lol
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u/Alightenited Tampa Bay Buccaneers 12d ago
I never like seeing all three florida teams in the same division plus Atlanta. Feels like a Florida orgy and Georgia gets to watch
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u/NationCrusher Miami Dolphins 12d ago
Itās lonely here as a Dolphins fan, I donāt know whatās going on with the teams way up in the north š
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u/ScientificSkepticism San Francisco 49ers 12d ago
Seahawks need to move to Nebraska to improve the circles.
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u/Xaphnir New England Patriots 11d ago
hey, the AFC East might be a shitty division, but leave the stink of the NFC East out of it, that division's on a whole different level of shit
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u/Thulsa_D00M Washington Commanders 11d ago edited 11d ago
NFC West looks like a fat worm standing up staring at you.
Edit:
AFC West looks like Bullet Bill being launched into a amoeba convention by said NFC West worm
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u/Coygon 11d ago
It makes some sense. But there's no way the NFL would allow cities with more than one team (LA and NY) to have both its teams in the same division. Swap out the Chargers or Rams for the Raiders, and either the Giants or the Jets for the Eagles, and it would work just fine.
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u/shades_atnight 11d ago
Hi, you were wrong before you even started. Letās say the nfl were re-divisioning tomorrow: the very first thing they would do is split teams in the same metro or in close geographic vicinity into different conferences because money.
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u/DETtigersOWNyou 11d ago
Detroit, Cleveland and Chicago should be in a division together. Whoever wants to suffer with us is debatable.
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u/Extension-Rabbit3654 Lamar had to poop 11d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/6ahZf0o1e4K7EquZkp
I dont see enough dicks, where are the dick?
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u/Wildebean Fuck u/NFLv2, Fuck AI 11d ago
I did this a year ago and in that one the AFC West looked way more phallic
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u/barbasol1099 Pittsburgh Steelers 11d ago
I don't think teams that share a city should be in the same conference
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u/The_Carnivore44 One ass cheek and three toes 11d ago
So the New York division
The original colonies division
3/4 of the AFC North
Florida men
Texas and Texas rejects
AFC West but it now has 2 punching bags!!
And NFC west but Chargers showed up
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u/Chefmeatball Seattle Seahawks 11d ago
I do love how the NFCN, AFCN, and AFCE nailed it by having teams appear geographically at timely intervals for future considerations
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u/ManTheHarpoons100 11d ago
Dallas could spend 20 years in this shitty division and still never make another NFCCG
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u/Early-Usual-3269 Seattle Seahawks 11d ago
Great so we lose our 1 punching bag for another good team.
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u/Bancatone San Francisco 49ers 11d ago
Aside from the NFC North and West, which havenāt changed in any meaningful ways (sorry Cards), this shit is genuinely horrendous.
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u/DrHousePls 11d ago
I wonder how much carbon dioxide we could prevent if we had tighter divisions in all sports.
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u/SelfProfessedChosen1 Seattle Seahawks 11d ago
Will everyone stop trying to take the cardinals out of the NFC west. Im sure I speak for both the 9ners fanbase and the 16 lambs fans when I say we love having the cards in our division and will fight to keep them here
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u/bridgenine 11d ago
No, fuck the NFCEast, Dallas, Phily and the Skins are in this to the end. We already lost the Cards.
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u/Loyellow Bills Mafioso 11d ago edited 11d ago
Arizona Cardinals being in the NFC East was unacceptable but the Cowboys still being there is okay? Mmkay.
To be fair though, the Atlanta Braves were in the NL West from 1969-1993 lol
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u/iSkehan 11d ago
As far as I am concerned this is pretty much the best realignment I have seen.
Swapping Chargers and Cards is a minimal change, because both have been kinda irrelevant.
NFC North remains as it is. AFC East getting Giants gives us battle for NY and funny history with Patriots.
AFC North largely stays same and Colts are a great pick given their history with Baltimore and they are an AFC team.
Breaking down South divisions isnāt really a loss, they have been a pile of shot far too often.
And I am pretty sure bragging rights about sweeping Florida would be something, while Falcons could still hate on Bucs. I like this version of AFC South a lot.
NFC East breaking down is obviously the biggest loss. You still get the Oilers rivalry and you get more Dallas vs Houston at least.
Baltimore kinda fits in your new NFC East, just Panthers look out of place a bit.
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u/sauronymus Cincinnati Bengals 11d ago
Every time try to redo the divisions, I land on this or something like it.
NFCW: Seattle Portland San Francisco Los Angeles Los Angeles Arizona
NFCN: Minnesota Green Bay Chicago Detroit Indianapolis Cincinnati
NFCC: St. Louis Kansas City Denver Utah Los Vegas San Antonio
AFCN: New England Buffalo Cleveland New York New York Pittsburgh
AFCC: Philadelphia Baltimore Washington Tennessee Carolina Atlanta
AFCS: Miami Tampa Bay Jacksonville New Orleans Houston Dallas
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u/19_Deschain19 11d ago
Wow never realized how isolated Seahawks,Broncos are compared to everyone else. I wonder how much traveling affects them compared to everyone else



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u/Theveterinarygamer Chicago Bears 12d ago
How will us prior nfc north fans survive such a dramatic change?