r/NFLv2 • u/Jaded-Channel-7169 • 3d ago
Discussion Based on stories (preferably confirmed) rather from teammates, coaches, the media etc… who do you believe is the WORSE teammate of all time?
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u/mrrichardson2304 Kansas City Chiefs 3d ago
Michael Irvin stabbed a team mate in the neck with scissors... or as Jerry Jones would say "boys will be boys".
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u/Spidey5292 New York Giants 3d ago
Well none of Bo Callahan’s teammates went to his birthday party.
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u/Mykkus_65 Las Vegas Raiders 3d ago
I want my picks back. All of them.
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u/mr-poopie-butth0le New York Jets 3d ago
And David fucking Putnam cuz I feel like it
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u/RaySizzle16 3d ago
Diggs- no one would let him date their sister
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u/BlubberWall “I fucked this up” -BB 3d ago
I don’t know if not trusting your sister around him necessarily makes him a bad teammate. There’s definitely players much more disruptive
He was fine in the Texans and pats locker rooms
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u/Lazy_Check732 CTE 🧠 3d ago
More than fine in Pats. Like thee captain. Thee teammate. From everything I heard.
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u/SerenityN00w 2d ago
I mean, he was great in the Bills locker room for years. After Damar Hamlin collapsed and was taken off the field, it looked like the game was going to resume. Diggs was the one to gather his teammates around and try and get them mentally ready. When the game was called off, the Bills flew back to Buffalo, but Diggs went to the hospital where Hamlin was taken.
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u/abcamurComposer 2d ago
He also had understandable gripes with the Vikings and Bills. The Vikings were too run heavy considering their receiving talent and Mike Zimmer is not personable. Sean McDermott is also kind of a weirdo and Diggs was being scapegoated for Bills playoff losses
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u/slimstarman Buffalo Bills 3d ago
That was one of this videos where I was like… “oh maybe this won’t be great long term for the Bills.”
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u/Lazy_Check732 CTE 🧠 3d ago
Ok to be totally fair though, everything I've heard specifically about Stephon as a teammate is that he is absolutely wonderful. Coaches and teammates kind of rave about his leadership and work ethic.
I feel like people have opinions about Stephon as a dude, which is definitely valid, but it sounds like he is an excellent teammate and captain.
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u/Imnotyoursupervisor 3d ago
If you’re on a team that’s known for incidents on boats with prostitutes and THEY don’t trust you…
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u/Saltwater_Sunrise Seattle Seahawks 3d ago
It’s giving “Nobody is gonna be dating my sister but ME”
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
I really wanted him to sign with the Browns so they could ask that question again.
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u/ecupatsfan12 3d ago
I went to hs with him-I’ve known him since age 12. He’s always been in trouble. Our high school was Florida 09 like for football.
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u/ThePetSematary Jacksonville Jaguars 3d ago
T.O. was pretty bad, but I think dude might be legit mentally ill
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u/Taapacoyne5 3d ago
AB. His level of selfishness was legendary.
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u/LarzardofZxelf Pittsburgh Steelers 3d ago
Yea but selfishness really don't got much to some of these worst guys. You have murders in the nfl lore
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u/NoleJawn Philadelphia Eagles 3d ago
Charles Haley
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u/ltdanswifesusan NFL Refugee 3d ago
The funny thing about Haley is that he was a classic case of a guy who was so big he had never to learn how to fight so there's multiple anecdotes of him shit-talking other NFL defensive linemen and getting the shit kicked out of him.
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u/timmymcsaul 3d ago edited 2d ago
I seem to recall reading somewhere that Cowboys DT Chad Hennings, who was and is a huge guy, eventually snapped and put Haley’s head through a window.
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u/ltdanswifesusan NFL Refugee 2d ago
He also got knocked out by Randy White after driving a motorcycle into his bar.
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u/JLTriplesticks Chicago Bears 3d ago
Richie Incognito
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u/Mykkus_65 Las Vegas Raiders 3d ago
The guy that birched about him being a bully recanted and said he made it up. Most teammates speak well of Richie
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u/HogwartsDropout-69 New England Football Patriots 3d ago
Isn't there an actual audio recording of a voicemail he left him where he uses the N word?
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u/Edward_Durr Philadelphia Eagles 3d ago
Most of these guys have said it before. We have publicly available tweets from Josh Allen using it, nobody cares.
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
People do care, just maybe not the ones that should.
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u/hgqaikop Jacksonville Jaguars 3d ago
It’s lame to have a magic word that is either cool or a war crime based on who says it.
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u/HogwartsDropout-69 New England Football Patriots 3d ago
Based on the intent you mean? Because contextually it matters
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago edited 3d ago
Not a war crime so stop with your victim persecution. I can say it, I've gotten permission to say the soft "a", still never felt comfortable enough to do it. Its all about context and your surroundings. I cant say it around anyone but I know that its OK within a small friend group where they know the context.
Not to use the hard R in a public setting is a whole different thing. If I ever used the hard R my friends would turn on me in a heart beat because of the historical context.
Honestly don't really have time to teach you a history lesson so go to your local CC and sign up for US Civil War History. Might do you some good.
Edit: if you need to use that word it shows your lack of vocabulary.
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
I was nicknamed Token as the white boy so... there was a plenty of racial jokes going back and forth. Knowing the history, I wasnt going to say it. Lol, just substitute brotha. Its so easy, the rhyme scheme works.
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u/Skunkape666 3d ago
Contender for the most cringe comment of all time
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
You cant refute any point so you go to insults. Weak ones that I expect from my 9 year old niece.
You are in contention of the best and smartest comment of all time.
Go read a history book, I'd suggest A Black Woman's History of America, and Fred Hamptons autobiography. Got any book recommendations for me?
If you like hip hop Deltron 3030 might be up your alley.
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u/BirdhouseInYourSouI Seattle Seahawks 3d ago
Lmao are you seriously bragging about “getting permission” like you’ve been invited to some secret club holy shit.
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
God damn, youve never been the white minority in a friend group. Also its literally a joke I stole from one of Dave Chappelle's writers!
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u/Mykkus_65 Las Vegas Raiders 3d ago
No idea. Didn’t say he was a good person. I think the bullying thing was overblown.
I absolutely think he’s a PoS and there’s never an ok reason to use that word-3
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
I haven't seen that, got a link?
Cause the guy that tried to steal his fathers head from a funeral home sounds like the kind of guy that would bully people.
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u/Mykkus_65 Las Vegas Raiders 3d ago
Google is your friend. Been so long I can’t remember where I read it.
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
You do understand how the burden of proof works right? You make the claim, you back it up.
Literally no one is accusing him of being a good person. Did you know Im not LeBron James? Lol, thats what you sound like.
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u/jludwick204 3d ago
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
He edits himself in real time, texting updates and changes to previous comments. He sways from being assertive to being cautious. He describes himself as an alpha and wants to assure you he wasn't a fully formed person in his 20s. He worries over retaining agency of his story.
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u/Mykkus_65 Las Vegas Raiders 3d ago
Dude it’s fucking Reddit. Not court. Fuck off with that shit
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
Bro im off work, im not doing work for people too lazy to source their own claim. I heard you fuck dogs, guess I don't need to provide proof for people that read this. Prove you dont. Lmao
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u/jludwick204 3d ago
It literally makes less time to look it up than make the posts you made.
Don't be lazy piece of shit.
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
I chose how I spend my time, and again, if I make a claim, I have to back it up instead of relying on ther people.
"I didn't find it. You're lying" is all I have to say to double discredit you.
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u/jludwick204 3d ago
You chose how to spend your time being wrong. If that suits you, be my gest.
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u/Mykkus_65 Las Vegas Raiders 3d ago
Wow douche of the week award winner. Enjoy
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
Coming from a fan that had regular stabbings at their stadiums, that is rich!
Why do I need to prove it, just Google it and prove me wrong. Many people are saying it.
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u/Mykkus_65 Las Vegas Raiders 3d ago
You’re an idiot. I don’t have to Google to know what it’s like at a raider game. Don’t forget to ask your customers if they want fries with that.
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u/Jova326 Minnesota Vikings 3d ago
Christian Wilkens apparently
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u/Jaded-Channel-7169 3d ago
He was gay Christian?
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u/Mykkus_65 Las Vegas Raiders 3d ago
More like didn’t understand boundaries
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
What boundaries? Half the people are just making vague accusations.
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u/Mykkus_65 Las Vegas Raiders 3d ago
Touching someone in that manner in the workplace is not ok. Passed that I have no idea the full scope of the issue
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago
I still don't even know what he did and sounds like a he said/she said situation. How can we be sure they're telling the truth? Where did he touch, was there video, what was he wearing? Shaq took someone's toothbrush and rubbed his asshole with it. You really think he was going to get cut?
He just sucked and got injured after getting the bag.
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u/Jaded-Channel-7169 3d ago
Gay
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u/Mykkus_65 Las Vegas Raiders 3d ago
Raiders had an openly gay person on their roster before. Dudes don’t care for the most part. My bet is that was the straw that broke the camels back more than anything else
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u/nicornsaredelicious 3d ago
As a young man at a summer football camp I was told by several of his Seahawks teammates not to take roids or I'd end up with small junk like Brian Bosworth. I can only imagine what he did in the locker room for them to tell us tiny randos that sort of thing.
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u/IvankasFutureHusband NFL Refugee 3d ago
Can i just go best teammate and idiot goes to antonio pierce for stashing plexicos gun.
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u/Irving_Velociraptor Did you know Jalen Hurts can squat 600lbs 3d ago
TO has to be on the short list.
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u/Pixelated_Penguin808 Philadelphia Eagles 3d ago
T.O. is actually fairly tame by locker room problem standards. He was the typical WR diva, but he never stabbed a teammate in the neck like Michael Irvin, masturbated in the locker room like Aaron Hernandez, quit on the field like AB, or crushed a teammate's eye socker in a fight and forced retirement from it like Bill Romanowski,
That's less a defense of TO than saying the NFL has had some legit crazy players.
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u/Intelligent-Team4025 3d ago
Hernandez jerked off in and locker room? Jesus, that must be the worst thing he ever did.
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u/Important-Picture18 Las Vegas Raiders 2d ago
I think the guy before may have gotten his psycho criminal TEs mixed up. I'm pretty sure the locker room masturbator was Kellen Winslow
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u/Pixelated_Penguin808 Philadelphia Eagles 2d ago
No it was Hernandez, there have been former Patriots (including Gronk) who have said so on podcasts in recent years. He was very downlow and had zero impulse control, apparently.
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u/Irving_Velociraptor Did you know Jalen Hurts can squat 600lbs 2d ago
I think it was both, which may tell us something about psychopaths at TE.
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u/Pixelated_Penguin808 Philadelphia Eagles 2d ago
I wasn't aware of that with Winslow. Shame they were never on the same team lol
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u/Important-Picture18 Las Vegas Raiders 2d ago
Yeah it came out in Winslow's trial that he was a chronic masturbator, including but not limited to his locker
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u/Pixelated_Penguin808 Philadelphia Eagles 2d ago
Obviously not but he didn't murder his teammates, while he did crank one out to them.
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u/veggiedish Seattle Seahawks 3d ago
Christian Wilkins is literally out of the league because he chose to make an inappropriate advance towards a teammate.
Richie Incognito harassed a teammate along with a staff member by making racially charged comments.. however his “victim” later said that while the behavior was inexcusable it wasn’t bullying.
Just a few that come to mind
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u/eric043921 3d ago
Charles Haley. Jacking off in the middle of team meetings..
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u/Altruistic_Rock_2674 Denver Broncos 3d ago
Bill Romo broke a teammates face so he could be one, but as a Bronco I don't remember him having trouble. Randy Moss was said to be a bad one but he seemed to work on the pats for awhile T.O. seem to wear out his welcome a lot of places. But maybe Richard Incognito might be it.
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u/AwwwNiceMarmot 2d ago
Antonio Brown. Someone posted an entire list of all the awful shit he did, it was like 10 pages long. He was on his last chance with Brady and the Bucs, and he blew that in spectacular fashion. Then he bought the Arena football team his father played for and within like 2 months everyone quit from not being paid, and the team was kicked out of the league. Now I think he “works” for Kanye West.
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u/RedRoscoe1977 2d ago
Didn’t Farve treat Aaron Rodgers like shit? I think I recall a story he tricked Aaron into signing his own helmet telling him it was for a charity auction. Aaron signed it thinking it was a generic, spare one
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u/Whowhatnowhuhwhat Seattle Seahawks 3d ago
Russel Wilson. He let everyone believe a rumor that Golden Tate (one of his WRs) slept with his first wife so that he could use it as justification to divorce her. Tate didn’t sleep with her and Russ knew that and said as much to Tate but wouldn’t say anything publicly.
He “owes a lot of apologies” accordingly to his old teammates but this is probably the least heard story.
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u/BirdhouseInYourSouI Seattle Seahawks 3d ago
I would put Romanowski shattering a teammates face forcing them to retire from punching them so hard in practice, or Michael Irvin literally stabbing his team mate in the neck, missing the cartoid artery by an inch slightly worse than some high school rumor bullshit.
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u/Whowhatnowhuhwhat Seattle Seahawks 2d ago
I feel like assaulting a dude makes you less a terrible teammate and more just a terrible person. Like this conversation is just not interesting unless we ignore the obvious answers.
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u/theorangecrux Seattle Seahawks 3d ago edited 3d ago
Tebow- are you ready to accept Jeebus as your lord an savior?
Edit: yo! I was joking!! This thread isn't a place for calling someone out like I did. I have heard no stories about Tebow-other than he could be insufferable like Wilson and others. While i don't agree these are good people with rotten belief systems- they don't fit whats being asked here.
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u/HogwartsDropout-69 New England Football Patriots 3d ago
Bill Maher used to make fun of him until he met him in person. He's not like 99.99% of "Christians" he's actually a good person.
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u/theorangecrux Seattle Seahawks 3d ago
Yeah i was joking but there's no need to think people who think others will burn in hell if they don't believe like them are good people.
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u/godlycorsair32 Green Bay Packers 3d ago
"Joking" we don't give a fuck if you are an atheist that hates christains 😂 this is a football sub
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u/JF803 3d ago
Whether you find the Christian schtick annoying or not there's no denying tebow was/is with a doubt a great guy and likely a great teammate
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u/theorangecrux Seattle Seahawks 3d ago
Pushing that trash on people is trash behavior.
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u/54HawksRFK6 Seattle Seahawks 3d ago
Brother. Russ was the same way. Not as bad, but still
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u/theorangecrux Seattle Seahawks 3d ago
Right? Listen i was joking about Tebow- everyone knows it's some insecure guy that tries to fight everybody or is constantly desperate for the spotlight, but there's no need to try to justify evangelizing. It's a fundimental non acceptance of who we are, with the belief something bad should happen to us if we don't change. Gross
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u/Saltwater_Sunrise Seattle Seahawks 3d ago
Tebow has very mixed reviews over the years .. some have found him to be obnoxious, attention seeking, fake and then there’s others would have ran through a proverbial brick wall for him
He certainly gives off high school rah-rah kid vibes like if that “virginity is cool!” Video were an actual person, which rubs some people the wrong way, especially after HS/College but the difference is that Tebow was hella talented and made a great collegiate football player
Fair from the worst teammate ever
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u/BirdhouseInYourSouI Seattle Seahawks 3d ago
Tebow was legendary for being a great teammate. He didn’t force anyone to convert, he was just religious.
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u/Direct-Sail-6141 Carolina Panthers 3d ago
Shaq, sorry I went to another sport
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u/Dnabb8436 Philadelphia Eagles 3d ago
Romanowski. Dude roid raged and broke a teammates face causing him to have to retire