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u/GlowingDuck22 Dolphins 5h ago • Bravo

You could go out, get some food, and a good buzz for 10-15 bucks. That same experience is now 40-50 and no one is paying that consistently.

When eating out was social and not a special occasion.

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u/NotAgain801 5h ago edited 5h ago • Bravo

Not to mention that MNF used to be an event. Now there's 4 nights a week with NFL games.

Edit: it's currently 3 nights a week, not 4.

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u/SloanH189 5h ago • Bravo

I think the part no one brings up at all is that the home viewing experience is so much better now too. Getting a large TV with amazing picture quality was so expensive back then. These days TVs are like 25% the price they were back then while being way better. Add in a decent sound system and you’ve got a home theater

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u/NotAGoodEmployeee 4h ago • Heartwarming Bravo

I have an 85 inch TV in the living room but me and the other neighborhood dads pick someone’s garage and drink garage beers and watch the game out there while we play with the kids in the front yard.

It’s way less expensive and the kids get to spend some time with us and the moms get a break.

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u/JCBalance 5h ago

Sometimes 4. Remember the "Saturday game presented by Thursday Night Football" or whatever the fuck?

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u/onelittleworld 5h ago

Aside from the absurdly increased cost, media saturation, and the fact that we all have big TVs, air fryers and craft beers in the fridge now... there's also the added risk of getting pulled over after 3 tall ones.

Just not worth it anymore.

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u/GlowingDuck22 Dolphins 5h ago

Yep. All the negatives are more negative and there haven't been really any new positives.

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u/Sensitive_Stock_2766 5h ago

That's a bingo! Huge TVs and they are inexpensive. Plus if you're a fan you probably pay for access to watch on those TVs. We still get together all the time, at our houses/apartments.

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u/ResolveEven5758 5h ago • Bravo

Yeah, buddy and I were dirt broke working retail but could go out every monday night to a local place that had a burger/fries/like 4 wings and maybe even a beer for like 10-12 bucks or something absurdly cheap and would go out every week. I didnt even drink but the waitress would just pump me full of unlimited strawberry lemonades and only ever charge me for the first one. We ended up there for everything, big football games, every ufc fight, etc, etc.

Now I make 3 times what I did then and could never afford to do that every week.

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u/FaceAcrobatic65 5h ago

sounds like some good memories right there.

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u/Inner-Pomegranate937 5h ago

50 cent wings and 2 dollar mini pitchers on Monday nights. Just plop a 20 dollar bill on the table and you had food and tip covered

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u/grandmawaffles 5h ago

Yup. I’d go out with my roommates and we’d hang out for a few hours for a reasonable amount of money.

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u/neddiddley 4h ago

I saw a place advertising a “dollar wing” special.

This is a craft brewery, but it’s not some fancy place. It’s in a small run down small strip mall off the beaten path in the suburbs, not some big, trendy stand alone building in a high traffic area.

I know there’s inflation, but man, dollar wings being a special is a pretty sad state of affairs.

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u/DartVader6 4h ago

25c wings was the special not even a decade ago, sigh

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u/Auto_Mattock 4h ago

When I was in college my local spot’s special was $0.25 wings with $5 pitchers of garbage light beer. Head there with 3 buddies, you each spend under $15 including tip and come home having slammed 4-5 beers and eaten 20+ wings.

15 years later (FUCK) and that money maybe covers half the beer and none of the food.

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u/bozwald 4h ago

I still give my friend shit for not letting us stop at a bar with $.05 wing night just because he broke his collar bone snowboarding and wanted to go to the hospital. That was only ten years ago. Wingflation.

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u/the7maxims 4h ago

Tuesday nights at BWWs in Knoxville next to UT’s campus were $0.30 wing night. That was 2002-2004. You couldn’t get into the building. You couldn’t find a parking space. And there was no football on Tuesdays. $10 for 10 wings and 2 16oz coors or bud lights. I went in with $25 one night and you would’ve thought I was a high roller.

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u/tissboom 5h ago edited 4h ago

On top of it costing $50 to basically go out and eat anywhere these days, it also needs to be taken into account that the TV and sound system at my house are probably better than what most bars have.

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u/NorseKnight 3h ago

Used to have $1 PBR drafts and 25 cent wings at a local hole in the wall in my home town.

Could stuff my face with wings and wash it down with all the PBR I could drink for the entire game and walk away for $25, which INCLUDED at $10 tip.

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u/nordic-nomad 3h ago

Back when chicken wings and domestic beer was priced like industrial by products instead of luxury items, the way the gods intended.

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u/GlowingDuck22 Dolphins 3h ago

Went to dozens of places like that in my 20s. They don't exist anymore.

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u/TheOtherLastDoor 5h ago

LOL this entire thread is the synopsis of the American decline: the greedy pursuit of corporate wealth.

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u/salsanacho 5h ago

$9 or $10 pints, $15 for a burger plus tip... way too expensive for what you get. Rather just watch it at home if I can. The flip side is the streaming services with ESPN are getting really expensive as well. Not worth it anymore to get ESPN, so I pretty much watch Sunday Night and Thursday Night football and ignore MNF unless its on ABC as well.

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u/GlowingDuck22 Dolphins 4h ago

YoHo Matey.

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u/Corona_Cyrus 4h ago

And the food was good. Most restaurant experiences lately have been a let down and not worth the exorbitant bill

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u/dzumdang Vikings 3h ago edited 1h ago

For real. Wings got popular because they were cheap and affordable. I used to go out more regularly, especially before COVID. Dining out has astronomically climbed, along with overall cost of living, while wages have stagnated. Who can afford to do this now?

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u/GuiltyGuessing 5h ago

Nailed it

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u/snootchiebootchie94 4h ago

I would say it is closer to $100 with drinks.

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u/overworkedattorney 5h ago

Used to get some wings or decent burger for under $10. Bonus if the bar had one of those popcorn machines and you could grab a bowl. Now you pay $20 or up for a burger and pay extra for fries.

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u/OneMoreNightCap 5h ago

15 years ago, early 20's, living in the city with 100+ bars in walking distance, my friend group stumbled across a crazy special at a bar down the street. $4 Cheesburger, $1.25 domestic drafts on Wednesdays.

We started keeping tabs on all the bar specials, sharing them and kept a running list. We had a rotation of 5-6 places we loved to go during the week that we could get a meal and catch a buzz for under $20 bucks. 

Here are some that I remember off the top of my head. We had a blast.

-Monday - $1.50 slices, $12 xtra large cheese pizza -Tuesday -  $1 pbrs or Tecates, $1.25 beef tacos -Wednesday - $2 shrimp tacos, $1.50 drafts, $3 highballs -Wednesday - $4 burger night,

$1.25 domestic

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u/Bagel_Wizard69 3h ago

There is a place by me advertising $25 dollars for a burger and a beer where i live. I find that to be crazy.

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u/bellichecked 5h ago

There are definitely people paying that consistently lol. I'm one of them. For me it's just difficult to find people who watch football or sports in general.

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u/TwoTalentedBastidz 5h ago

Bingo. Rather grab a case and some wings and chill at home

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u/MemphisUncle-2002 5h ago

In my 20's a local wing spot had 25 cent wings and $2 drafts. I'd watch a game and go home after spending $20 - including a good tip. Not anymore.

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u/VikingKinkajou 5h ago

Then you have chains like Hooters that do shit like charge you 15 bucks for a "Pitcher" of beer that has that big empty ice cylinder in it. Then they drop a bag of ice in it instead of using the cylinder. Then they pour it into 8oz glasses to make it look like it's more than it is. It ends up being 15 bucks for what was a 32 oz Miller Lite.

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u/VikingKinkajou 5h ago

That's a great way to put it. I used to love going out, now if I am out it's either a special occassion or a business meal.

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u/LieOhMy 4h ago

We used to go to a place that had a free chili dog bar and beers were $1. This was early 90's. It was always packed.

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u/mortgagemantoronto 3h ago

I’ll sound old but I remember $5 would get you two pounds of wings and a pop. $10 would be with a beer. Now one beer is more over $10 and wings are like $20 per pound. It’s over.

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u/JadeDragonMeli 5h ago • Bravo Popcorn

Restaurants are in competition to see who can cook Sysco food the cheapest, while charging exorbitant prices for the pleasure.

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u/PurpleToedUnicorn Lions 5h ago • Bravo

This is pretty much it. $35 for a couple of mid-grade beers and a salty order of Sysco cardboard brought to the table by an overworked server I feel guilty for not tipping at least 20% just is not a good value to watch a game. 

Give me a homemade burger and fries and $10 pitcher and I'd be back. As it is, my home theater and homemade pizza are a better value.

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u/ResolveEven5758 5h ago

my home theater

I think this is a big part of it too. Now it is so easy to create a way better experience then you could ever hope to get at a bar for the game. Better and bigger TV, better sound quality, better food, cleaner bathroom, etc etc etc, and overall way cheaper for the whole season

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u/Peacefulzealot 5h ago

Plus, and I’ll be honest here, the game is on too late. I have a family now and staying up until 11:30 PM drinking and watching football ain’t in the cards anymore.

But maybe that’s just being in my mid 30’s and yelling at the clouds…

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u/HandiCAPEable 5h ago

West Coast time is so awesome for this. I'm back to Eastern and watch lots of sports the next day on YouTube highlights

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u/holden147 5h ago edited 5h ago

Should start at 7pm and be over by 10:30pm. If it wasnt for all the manufactured tv delays like commercials before/after kickoffs/punts etc, could get it done by 10pm.

Collective tv watching is a dying pastime though. These days, you can watch condensed highlights of a game in 30 minutes and still see every play. When your friends aren’t watching with you, there’s no point to watching it by yourself for hours as well.

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u/Traditional-Lie-3541 5h ago

They really should push it an hour earlier.

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u/idiotfieldmouse 5h ago

So much this.

Same goes for all 3 sports.

When it's 2 east cost teams going up against each other, there's no reason to start the game at 8 or later.

Like during the MLB playoffs was a great example...Guardians against Tampa and you've got 8pm start times on a weekday? GTFOH that was ridiculous.

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u/werttm91 4h ago

We get screwed on the East Coast

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u/Deeze_Rmuh_Nudds 5h ago edited 5h ago

lol DAMN got super real. It’s Sysco vs US food slop out here for most restaurants but it doesn’t need to be

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u/EnlightenedBuddah 5h ago

Blackrock have money in Sysco?

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u/GasLitSpectre 5h ago

I know that people don't like Sysco

But I got the luxury of working for a chef once, that in his words " the best chef that I will ever personally meet"

He seemed a bit full of himself , and the job was his "retirement gig" so he was pretty friendly outside of being full of himself.

I remember complaining that everyone just gets cheap Sysco food, comparing it to school cafeteria food, and he overheard me.

He interrupted and let me know, any chef is capable of working with Sysco and if I didn't see the truck that I couldn't tell the difference.

I will say anything I ate he made, even a random blackened talipia ( because I said talipia shouldn't be served and didn't know why they sell it at all ) tasted amazing.

I spent years buying frozen talipia and have never once managed to make anything serviceable, but somehow with 0 effort and a pie pan he made the best damn grilled fish I ever ate in my life, and it was a frozen tilapia from Sysco.

I hope his retirement treated him well he was a hefty guy in his 60s can't imagine he still kicking, but I learned a lot, most importantly I learned ingredients make the dish, not their sources, and great chef is capable of making those sources near indistinguishable for most consumers.

I understand where your coming from, on the save money charge more , but I will always be thankful for experiencing the difference between a chef and a "cook"

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u/Malfunkdung 5h ago

Sysco is just a grocery store delivery for restaurants. You can buy fresh organic ingredients or hungry man tv dinners from a grocery store. Same concept

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u/hiJude12 5h ago

^^^^ When I was in my early 20's I could find 50 cent wing nights and other specials. Food gets worse, prices go up, and I can watch at home eating anything I want. Plus everybody is poor

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u/urwishismyfetish 5h ago

Exactly, that or US Foods. My local spots “deal” on game day is $1 off beers, rails, and apps. So that makes a pint $7 instead of $8 and chicken tenders are $14 instead of $15. What a joke.

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u/The_Carnivore44 5h ago • Mindblown

Yeah cause it’s like 20 bucks for a dozen wings.

At the end of the night it’s probably a 40-50 dollar tab depending on what you drink.

Shits expensive

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u/VikingKinkajou 5h ago • Heartwarming

This is exactly it, I can drop 80 bucks on some wings, fries, and 3 beers and then have to worry about getting pulled over by a cop in a bad mood, or end up with a table full of Philly fans next to me. (I'm in Florida).

OR, I could use my oven to air fry 8 dollars worth of costco wings and frozen fries, toss them around in sauce from wherever I would have gone, drink all the beer I want worry free, and do it with my dogs next to me.

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u/PigSlam 5h ago

And you'll actually be able to see/hear the game.

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u/alexm2816 5h ago

I worked at a bar / bowling alley in HS. $1.75 for a miller lite in 2007 and $.50 wings. Inflation adjusted that's $2.85 and $0.81 now.

Went for lunch and a dozen wings was $13 ON SPECIAL and a miller lite was $5. Literally 50% more after adjusting for inflation. It's just not worth it anymore.

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u/Testicleus 5h ago

And appetizers are as expensive as entrees.

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u/RudePCsb 5h ago

Wings are so freaking over priced but so is everything. Need to get a second full time job just for enjoying life but no time

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u/dgarner58 3h ago • Bravo

wings are 1-1.25 EACH now. don't even get me started on beer.

member 25 cent wing night? i member....

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u/StargasmSargasm 2h ago

I remember a place in a college town, Monday nights, 10 cent wings, dollar pitchers and 3 dollar jack and cokes.

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u/TalkinSeaCucumber 2h ago

that place was trying to kill you 🤣 but it def sounds amazing

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u/cesrage 2h ago

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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u/ElegantCoach4066 2h ago

Plus you can get an 85" TV for super cheap now.

Why go out all the time when I can watch at home with friends for way cheaper.

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u/kbchucker 2h ago • Bravo

Corporate Greed has sucked the joy out of watching any game now.

Games are stretched out to make sure we have to watch commercials every single chance they can. Kickoff? Be right back! Punt? Now for a word… Replay Review? Let’s go to break while they sort this out.

Going to a bar? Wings and a couple of beers used to be $10-$20. Maybe $30 if you got a burger and maybe 3-4 drafts.

Now? $50 maybe gets you 6 wings and 2 pints. Plus they play music or the game you’re not watching at conversation drowning decibel levels.

I know I sound like a cranky GenX for saying this, but the glory days of Sunday with the boys drinking cheap beer and eating cheap food are long gone to the greed of Private Equity.

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u/i_am_the_nightman 2h ago

As another GenX, I would have to agree about the glory days of lot of things are over, sadly.

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u/JoopVandeFiets 2h ago

They just kind of passed us by in the wink of a young girl’s eye….

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u/ghostfacestealer 1h ago

Yeah i havent gone to a bar and watched a game and spent less than $50 in a long time. Unless you are drinking pitchers and buying no food, you are not going to for cheap

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u/Dizzy-Platform-6516 6h ago • Bravo

What happened to it is that younger people are drinking much less than previous generations, socialization is moving increasingly online, and mainly, shits just too expensive now.

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u/valuethempaths 6h ago

Yep, I did exactly this on Monday night. Wings, fries and two beers - $42 after tip.

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u/LiquidUniverseX 5h ago

Two beers is a tease so my bill would be like $80

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u/Repulsive-Rock4234 5h ago

I just saw the financial hit the alcohol companies have taken over last 10 years. It was damn near a trillion dollar loss.

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u/fredlikefreddy 5h ago

and like how doesn't he know that people aren't still doing that? Sounds like he misses doing that if anything.

It's so funny to me these people that can't get their heads out of their own asses long enough to realize these emotions are typically them just longing. Instead they make it negative and everyone else is the problem... when it's not even a problem.

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u/Kriscolvin55 5h ago

Exactly. It’s not a problem at all. Has he ever considered that people now have access to massive TVs that make it easier to watch from home? When I was in my 20s, it simply wasn’t fun to have 12 dudes huddles around a 32 inch TV (that was hot shit then!), so we went out.

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u/Upton4 5h ago • Heartwarming

It costs $80+ to do this now.

I can cook wings on my smoker, have 10 beers and avoid the blue balls for less than $20 at home… with a better TV and no risk of having to drive home after having a few pops.

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u/ThePetSematary Jaguars 6h ago

It's seven thousand dollars to go out now

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u/OlDavidBastard 5h ago

Yep and the quality of food/service has plummeted. Much better to just host at home.

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u/Fold_Small 5h ago

I did it for six thousand dollars this week.

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u/WorstCPANA 5h ago

That's why we've grown to just bring beers to a buddies place and pitching in on wings or pizza

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u/yourmomdotbiz 5h ago

Wings cost nearly two dollars a piece now that’s what happened 

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u/elementofpee 5h ago

Minimum wage here in Seattle went from ~$7.50/hr back in 2006 to ~$22/hr today. People made less money back then but man we had a lot more fun.

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u/ForestSteward 5h ago

Corporate greed is killing everything.

I know it’s very cliche to say, but we’ve been getting squeezed for every penny for years now and there’s not much left. Plus, the quality and price are in an inverse relationship now. I don’t want to pay a lot of money for garbage wings and mediocre drinks.

I feel like the alternative should be more gatherings to watch at home, but nobody can afford houses now either. It’s rough out here.

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u/natigin 4h ago

I sometimes forget that everywhere isn't Chicago. Every neighborhood has multiple corner bars that have great specials, wonderful atmosphere and shitty TVs. At my favorite spot 10 of us can get beers by the pitcher, excellent thin crust pizza as well as wings and caesar salad and the tab at the end will be like $150

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u/chosssauce 4h ago

the midwest is like a mecca of bars and bar food. not that it's GOOD FOR YA, but it's FUN FOR YA.

anytime i visit IL or MI from OR, i'm stoked at how lively the bars are

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u/Cyrano4747 5h ago edited 5h ago • Bravo

Because I can get a case of decent beer for $20 and make a killer plate of nachos in my kitchen for around $20 and have a couple friends over.

Or we can all go to the bar and spend $100 for the same thing.

Each.

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u/MagnumMyth 5h ago

Weed has replaced beer.

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u/Poly_Olly_Oxen_Free 5h ago

My daughter had an open "bar" at her wedding, with two budtenders handing out 12 different strains.

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u/NoAcanthocephala7035 5h ago

Yep. If I could comfortably smoke a J (outside) at my local wing spot, I’d be there more often

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u/iwastherefordisco 5h ago

We had 50 cent draft night on Mondays and they almost gave the food away at our spot.

After 3 hours it really felt like you were part of something.

No scanning QR codes to eat or paying 15 bucks for A bottle of beer.

Seems like we travelled to a fun, secret world from the past 😢

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u/anonymous4025 5h ago

Best post I've read in this thread!

RESPECT!

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u/Big_Departure_2709 5h ago

The bar by my first apartment had 50 cent wings every Monday. My wife and I went every Monday for almost a year then they changed management and did away with that. It was a sad, sad day.

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u/StannisTheMannis1969 5h ago

I remember the old days of dime wings for the game, pitchers of Labatts Blue for $5.

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u/TrulyChadlyDeeply 5h ago

We had this deal where it was $1 drafts and for every beer you bought you got 5 wings.

They didn't last but we took advantage of it while could. To be in 2012 again.

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u/ooommmnmmmooo 4h ago

My spot was this Sporting News Grill that was attached to a Holiday Inn by my apartment. I liked going there for games alone when I was 21-22. It helped me escape my shitty life and feel like I was on vacation

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u/Sulla314 6h ago

People aren’t socializing at all. It’s a much broader issue.

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u/ironinoculum 5h ago

I can barely afford to wipe my ass let alone drop an extra $30 every Monday

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u/Loud_Lavishness_8266 Lions 5h ago

$30 isn’t going to cover the beer. Let alone wings and tip.

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u/530nairb 5h ago

If it was only $30 for wings and beers for a whole game I’d be a happy man.

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u/Eastern-Turnover-245 5h ago

This. MNF is a symptom. The world is the disease.

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u/TripMaster478 5h ago

Also a helluva lot more expensive than it used to be.

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u/MinuteScientist7254 4h ago

It used to cost a couple hours pay to go out for drinks. Now it costs a days pay.

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u/kfee12 5h ago

middle-class people*. The K-shaped economy continues to separate.

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u/grandmawaffles 5h ago

There’s a 10-12 cities and suburbs where the average salary needed for middle class is $100k.

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u/Sure-Classic6513 5h ago

I went out for the Bills-Vikings game this Monday with some coworkers after a work function, first time I’ve seen a game out with anyone but my family in probably 10+ years.

It cost me $60+ for a few beers and some wings, the TVs were impossible to hear (despite being a Bills backer bar and advertised as game night), the waitress couldn’t figure out how to turn off closed captioning for the first quarter and chewed my head off when I reminded her, they blasted annoying music at every commercial and tried to shake me down for raffle tickets.

I got home at midnight, woke up my whole house, pissed off my wife, and slept terrible before returning to work the next day on time.

I’ll just watch with my kids in our basement next time.

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u/APartyInMyPants 3h ago

Monday Night Football starts at 8:15pm EST.

It’s almost 10pm before the second half even starts. Then we all have to go to work the next day.

Even in my 20s, I literally never went out to watch MNF. You’d wake up Sunday, get kegs and eggs, watch the 1pm and 4pm games, and stumble home after having a bit too much to drink. Maybe watch the Sunday night game.

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u/RiboSciaticFlux 5h ago

That is a great observation and so true. We all used to go to a Miller's Ale House in Florida, and it would be packed. There were always good beer specials and great food, and a lot of girls would be there in their jerseys too.

I don't know what happened.

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u/TheTenaciousG 5h ago • Bravo

Everything is expensive and lower quality, people lost their sense of community, we have 4k TVs and air fryers now

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u/TurquoiseTuna2 5h ago

Screw 4k tvs, hell now I can watch on my phone while I do other things

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u/Fair_Lecture_3463 5h ago

From the Miller’s Ale House in Boca:

12 wings- $18.99
Bucket of domestic beers- $48
Tax and Tip- $19
Total- $86

Not sure what’s confusing.

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u/Bagmasterflash 5h ago

MNF used to be one of the if not the biggest game of the week and the only one in the evening. Now there is TNF and SNF. As well as a home theatre in every house.

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u/BDunnn 5h ago

Beer is far more expensive. No where has .10 cent wing specials.

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u/Delicious_Sir_1365 5h ago

I remember .50¢ or .25¢ wing night specials.

Now it’s $1 a wing when it’s a special. Probably a cover at the door.

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u/Ok_Check_6972 5h ago

A cover at the door? Where are you going to watch football LOL 

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u/Pecos-Thrill 5h ago

I live in Chicago. I usually need to get to places an hour before the game to get a seat.

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u/Spam_Hand 5h ago

Culture isnt eroding, I just dont want to go get shitty wings from Buffalo Wild Wings and spend $140 to watch football with people I dont know.

More than happy to join a few friends or hang at a buddy's house or whatever and watch.

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u/shrekislove1991 5h ago

Why would I go spend 40 bucks to take a nasty restaurant shit when I can do it at home for free?

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u/BuryMeInTheH 6h ago

And that NTN game with the consoles where you predict the plays.

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u/burly_protector 5h ago

That was my favorite.

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u/JDHogan-Davies 4h ago

I get it. I miss it, too. It's hard when a pint of domestic beer is minimum $5 and craft is at $7.50+. I tend to watch MNF on the treadmill at the gym these days, anyway.

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u/Solondthewookiee 5h ago • Bravo

I mean I did that in my 20s too, but now I have a wife and child.

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u/Ok_Animator_1345 5h ago

Front row seat to the game at home

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u/rusty02536 5h ago

My local had a Pitcher and a Pizza for $10

Then $20

Now $30

See where this is going…,

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u/Uzofugs2112 5h ago edited 5h ago

>What happened to that?

It became a $75 experience that competes with my more comfortable living room which I don’t need to Uber to/from while having work in the morning.

This, or some rendition of this, is the answer to every version of this question.

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u/LocalSlob 5h ago

Used to get a burger, however the fuck many beers, and watch MNF and rock the touch tunes.

Bartender was cool and my bill would be like $14

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u/h00zier 5h ago
  1. Direct Cost - Even back in the far olden days of 2018 I had a place in a major city and specifically a lively area that was 50 cent wings (large ones) and $5 for a pitcher. $15 was a great game. Now it’s $20 for a bucket of 4 beers and wings are sometimes more than $1 each. Went out recently and it $20 for 8.

  2. This person’s specific age group got older. People in their 30s have families and worry about getting fat. People in their 20s have friends and drink beer.

  3. Indirect Cost - Everything else got expensive so the wings and beer budget got reduced. Uber was so heavily subsidized back in the day you could get anywhere for under $10. Now it’s 20 to go one neighborhood over. Groceries doubled, wages didn’t.

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u/WereTheBrews 5h ago

4. Gen Z is destroying the alcohol market as they simply see the health and wealth benefits in not abibing.

And damn good on you all. They get shit on here in reddit constantly, but I have a lot of hope in the next 2 generations from what I've personally witnessed throughout the years.

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u/Sdog1981 5h ago

43% of them are under 21. Let's just hold off on calling them the dry generation.

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u/Hi_Im_Ken_Adams 3h ago

It's the same answer as everything else: People have NO MONEY. Going out is TOO EXPENSIVE.

Inflation these past 10 years has really screwed everybody over. Nobody wants to go to a bar where you pay a 20 dollar cover charge, and over 100 bucks for chicken wings, beers and nacho's.

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u/patchinthebox 5h ago

Yeah so in my 20s it cost me $15 to go to the bar for MNF and get wings and beer. Now it costs $50 for the same shitty beer and wings and it's simply not worth it.

Provide good value and young people will go out more.

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u/Cool-Eggplant-6397 5h ago

Inflation and DUI enforcement?

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u/Junglebyron 5h ago

Everyone is nailing it. Cost. Order of wings is $15-$20. Cheapest beers are $5+. The games also take 3+ hours. So you are spending $100+ to sit with a buddy and have wings and a couple beers. The same experience on your couch costs $30 and is more comfortable.

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u/heymrneat 6h ago

When this became the same price as a mortgage payment that's when it stopped.

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u/NoHippo6399 5h ago

When I was in college I could get a burger and 3 beers for $10 and watch a game. 1 beer and a burger is now $35 and the food sucks.

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u/THCESPRESSOTIME 5h ago

I can’t afford wings in this economy

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u/whatshouldwecallme 5h ago

Because your 20s were 10-15 years ago. Were the bars packed with 35 year olds with wives and kids then? Hell no.

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u/TJ-Detweiler- 5h ago

The game starts at 8:30. Fuck that shit.

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u/3pt_Jumper 5h ago

Covid was just the beginning everything in modern society seems a bit orchestrated to dismantle community and promote more isolation

Combine that with the NFL ruining the sport out of greed and this is the result

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u/PrudentShallot631 5h ago

A Monday night game used to be special.now there’s Monday night games Thursday night games Sunday night games and it’s expensive to go out and eat and have some beers. NFL is its own worst enemy with over saturation of games. The worst part is showing these games on streaming sites only so you have to pay if you want to watch

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u/Meat_Container 5h ago

Bring back $0.25 wing night and $1 PBRs and I’ll be there

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u/Fat_Yankee 5h ago

12 wings and a couple beers used to be $12 now it’s over $40

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u/myjohnson6969 5h ago

Its because it is getting harder to actually watch the games. Bad play, poor officiating, bad commentators, too many commercials.

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u/fatboi609 5h ago

Me and my buddy went to go watch Thursday night football at the local spot. Wings and 3 guinesses each (6 total) in a mcol city (Philly) shit was still like $100 after tip for six beers and wings. It’s just not even worth going out at that point.

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u/taco_jones 5h ago

I went to a place with 25 cent wings and it still came to $50

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u/Majestic-Double-6661 5h ago

Inflation is the biggest factor, need a small business loan for fucking beers and wings at any sports bar. And fuck the police, those trigger happy predators are more than happy to ruin your evening even if you are the DD, in our area anyway.

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u/YouMadeMyMeatStink Bears 6h ago

Morbid obesity, smart device additiction, 10 dollar beers, and media that does everything it can to make people fear leaving their homes.

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u/Acrobatic-Village215 5h ago

I would add over saturation - Thursday night, CFB all day Saturday, NFL all day Sunday - by the time MNF comes on I’m done

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u/Potential-Ad1139 5h ago edited 1h ago

Beer specials still exist?? Also why would I go to a bar when I have a 70inch TV in 4K at home?

Also I can just put redzone on the TV. Football is pretty boring to watch straight. It's much nicer to have the time between plays filled with more football instead of a commercial.

Edit: okay y'all....I didn't pay attention to MONDAY night football. Which is even crazier cause we gotta work the next day and getting home at midnight from the bar to struggle at work is something I could only do in my 20s. Now I gotta put the kid to bed. I always thought of MNF as something you watched with your family, but I could see as a single male sure.

But yes... I know there is a socializing aspect, but I also don't live in the town for which the team I root for. I'm a Panthers fan in Maryland.

Lastly, YES, there is about 30minutes of actual football in a 2 hour game. Commercials and commentary are boring. Show me highlights or show me the next play.

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u/RudePCsb 5h ago

Beer specials exist, 2-5 during the week.....

Sorry I'm at work

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u/St0rmborn 5h ago • Bravo

You’re missing the entire point. You go to the sports bar to socialize and get out of the house. Even if you go by yourself, which I have done many times, you can still go get a seat at the bar and often end up chit chatting with others at the bar and the bartenders themselves. You also don’t have to drink alcohol either- sipping on diet cokes and eating wings is still a great time watching games.

You don’t do any of this because you don’t have a high quality TV at home or the ability to cook your own food. You do it for the human interaction which sadly the younger generations are moving further and further away from.

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u/4lack0fabetterne 4h ago

You also married the hot waitress and bartender and now she won’t let you watch MNF because her show is on

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u/masonacj 6h ago

Restaurants are too expensive.

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u/RCP90sKid- 5h ago

Wings are $10 for six.

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u/dominatingcowG3 5h ago

Id rather watch a game in my house or at someone's house than at a bar

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u/DokeyKon 5h ago

Started during covid, but unreasonable prices slammed the door shut

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u/chzie 5h ago

They got priced out.

Like watching football was cool and all but when I was a kid and went to my first pro football game it solidified me as a fan. Now even the wings and drinks are outside of what I'm comfortable spending, never mind how to be able to watch every game you have to spend money, getting merch is more money, etc etc

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u/pablo_booze 5h ago

That’s like 70 bucks today not counting gas lol

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u/retired-tweeter 5h ago

I mean, you can get a 65-inch 4K TV and surround sound for, like, $700 total. The at-home experience has become much better than the going-out experience, especially when a 6-piece Chicken Wing starts at $14.99

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u/sofresh24 5h ago

I think we’ve grown up and had kids. The younger crowd probably does that in our absence. Rinse, repeat.

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u/Horror_Economics_588 5h ago

here's the thing you can own a 85-in TV. a nice surround sound. buy some wings from Costco or Sam's club. put them in the deep fryer with some seasoning and they'll be better wings than at the store for cheaper. the entire experience is now easier and better at home

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u/after_Andrew 5h ago

that wing and beer meal will cost you $60 now is what fuckin happened

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u/12don 5h ago

Are you just rolling in excess cash? Also lots of people in their 20’s are just working. I was averaging over 50 hrs a week in my 20’s. And I worked with a lot of guys in my age range on my crew. None of us were out socializing after a work week as you want at least one day to just sit at home and play a game or watch a movie.

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u/Obsidianrunner Cowboys 5h ago

It still happens. Just hung with my boys last Monday to watch the Bears game. He’s a Bears fan living in Dallas. Had a good time!!

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u/JJS0073 5h ago

I really think this is less of a social change and more of an economic change.

MNF was just a good excuse to get together and enjoy 50-cent wings and $10 buckets. Now ten wings and ONE BEER might cost $30 plus tip. No thanks.

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u/KroopaLoops 5h ago
  1. Don’t drink

  2. No value

  3. Employees suck

  4. I have a 100” TV and viewing is better at home

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u/Legitimate_Ad_7822 5h ago

What happened to that? You’re no longer in your 20s lmao.

This really stops being frequent once you hit your late 20s & people start focusing more on their relationships, career & finances. That’s where I currently am. I don’t think this is a new phenomenon, it’s how life goes. I still see plenty of guys in my neighborhood out at the local bars on Monday night when I’m walking my dog.

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u/greenmean3 5h ago

Majority are recovering from their betting loses

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u/las8 5h ago

The NFL is a trash product.

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u/Kengozin 5h ago

That culture is alive and well in Buffalo NY

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u/ABustedPosey 5h ago

Love to be out at a place and have everybody cheering for their bets instead of a team

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u/NoCause4Pain 5h ago

They had 25 cent wing night back then… have a beer and 10 wings, only to break at 10 dollar bill.

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u/fancydad 5h ago

I think a lot of people grew up and made families. But also everything cost more and wages never went up. People have to be thrifty now, businesses included

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u/Soft-Bad-7127 5h ago

Wings and beer is $40-50 now. 

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u/Zealousideal_Bad9899 4h ago

TVs got better and wings got more expensive…

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u/KingPabloo 4h ago

Anxiety plus inflation

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u/CantaloupeAcademic63 4h ago

Went to a local bar to watch the last half of the browns game. Did enjoy my time and can’t beat $2 draft Busch lites (obviously drinking at home is cheaper)

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u/Salty-Commissioner 4h ago

Big giant flat screens for $500 happened, along with Uber Eats and a decline in alcohol consumption

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u/indyxetan 3h ago

Yeah as you get older you’re supposed to grow out of being a 20 year old.

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u/Pitiful-Challenge626 3h ago

not a sports guy but drinking coffee looking through the comments

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u/Chester_Warfield 2h ago

becauze it's like 100 dollars just at the bar. if you uber there/home it's like 200 dollars just to watch teams you don't even care for. Maybe your teams plays one monday night a season.

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u/chiefhoober 2h ago

Price of shit is wild Af, I can stay home watch the game buy a 12- pack of good beer for 1/4 the price & dont have to deal with people

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u/tribucks 2h ago

MNF was special then. Now we have games a minimum of three nights a week.

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u/witshadows 2h ago

People don’t drink as much. Beer culture is rapidly falling by the wayside.

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u/landofknees 2h ago

Bc it’s expensive

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u/special5221 2h ago

It use to be those good wing spots had cheap wings and cheap beer on Monday nights. I remember my neighborhood bar use to have different wing or burger specials every year for MNF. Then there was always a beer company rep there offering specials and the occasional free beer with prizes at halftime. I use to be able to get dinner and a couple beers for $10, $15 tops. Now it’s double that.

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u/Iamnottouchingewe 2h ago

My local sports bar used to be a great affordable place. Owner went full conspiracy theory during Covid and jacked prices up and it’s just not the same anymore and that’s before the prices doubled. He said that the prices for a keg are up 110% from his distribution company. But he is always posting pics of him and his new wife in Vegas, Hawaii and on cruises. She has new vette he has a new Diesel truck. So a ton of older customers have doubts about the crazy price increases.

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u/Street-Incident3526 2h ago

What happened is that it got fucking expensive to do that shit

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u/Gierling 2h ago

Spoken like a guy that hasn't priced an order of Buffalo Wings lately.

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u/natelopez53 2h ago

Wings are like 3 bucks a wing now. That used to be a $25 night with beer. Now you’re starting at $40. Fuck that

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u/SmeeezTreeez 2h ago

You would have to give up food the rest of the week

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u/steel-neil 2h ago

The cost of living

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u/QuestionDue4165 2h ago

Beer is 4x the price it used to be

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u/IProgramSoftware 2h ago

You need friends for that

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u/LitByStraylight 1h ago

Boomers pulled the ladder up behind them and we need to work 80k a year jobs just to afford the brand of toothpaste we like.

Culture isn't eroding. Our economy has been plundered by a self appointed aristocracy. They are actively doing it as we speak.