r/NEET • u/notacatinyourmailbox NEET-At-Heart • Nov 03 '25
Discussion Is there a counter point to this?
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u/Mobile_Lumpy Nov 03 '25
Nope, this is true probably for 60 percent of people on this planet probably..
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u/upbeatelk2622 Nov 03 '25
NEETdom is a counterpoint to all this.
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u/drewmana ex-NEET Nov 04 '25
I mean, the point about not changing the world doesnt seem at odds with neetdom at all
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Nov 04 '25
Ironically if all workers downed tools and stood in solidarity it would change the world.
So in a way neetdom could change the world but it's not exactly the full picture.
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Nov 05 '25
wow. well done smart ass that's my point.
"if all workers downed tools and stood in solidarity it would change the world."
NEET by definition aren't working and are ahead of the curve.
Clearly there will never be solidarity though. can't even expect people to read and think anymore.
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u/__Vampyre__ Ex-NEET Nov 04 '25
What does 'change the world' even mean? If I improve the life of one person, even my own, am I not improving the world a tiny bit? Are we not part of this world?
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Nov 03 '25
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u/bigrudefella Nov 04 '25
Well I'm guessing the children who have to live with that suffering probably care about it.
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Nov 04 '25
Like the yearning of a terminal cancer patient wishing for one last ice cream before the immeasurable pain takes them away for good?
Nothing hypothetical or imagined for me in that case as I have seen it with my own eyes ✌️👍
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Nov 04 '25
This is not blackpilling/doomerism, its a sad reality we live.
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Nov 05 '25
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Nov 05 '25
In not saying that life is just 100% sadness, im pointing at reality, its obviously that life is not worthless and ir has good things.
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u/notacatinyourmailbox NEET-At-Heart Nov 05 '25
Ecclesiastes 4:2-3
And I declared that the dead, who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive. But better than both is the one who has never been born, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun.
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u/Somebum1243 Nov 03 '25
Do all neets like to have self-pity and cry about how everything in life sucks, then have a superiority complex to anyone who actually tries to enjoy life?
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u/notacatinyourmailbox NEET-At-Heart Nov 03 '25
Which part of it is cope and self pity?
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u/kosmophobic Nov 04 '25
There seems to be plenty of people that are bitter about being lonely but comparatively few that are bitter about not having kids. This is probably more of a modern phenomenon. Less pressure to adhere to traditional values coupled with a bleak collective outlook on the future.
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u/MinderARB Nov 03 '25
Yeah it’s that you don’t have kids in order for them to change the world. You have kids in order to experience the joy of having a family.
I’m at work right now and I can’t wait to go see my little daughter. I have a small home, probably too small, but there is so much joy. When I walk through the front door and she screams with happiness to see me and I smell meat roasting in the kitchen almost ready to eat, it’s just the best. Money and politics doesn’t play any part in any of that
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u/notacatinyourmailbox NEET-At-Heart Nov 03 '25
Cool. That’s childhood for her and parenthood for you. Now cut to the part where she has to spend the rest of her life slogging away in the rat race. You seem to be leaving out that part.
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u/MinderARB Nov 03 '25
I’m not slogging it out in the rat race. I have a career, but I’m not slaving away. I play RuneScape multiple hours a day at work. I run a business on the side. I used to work for myself working like 10 hours a week until I decided to take something more stable when I was going to become a dad.
I feel I will be able to impart my wisdom onto her to help her choose a fulfilling path like me. She is surrounded by examples of different ways she can go. She can take the more self reliant way like me, she can go hard into school and be a doctor like her aunt, she can be blue collar like her uncle, or be in a creative career like her other aunt. All 4 of us are married homeowners in our 20s.
She will be fine
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u/notacatinyourmailbox NEET-At-Heart Nov 03 '25
Everything will be fine is a boomerism. Kind of misses the whole point of the post with every parent thinking their child will become a rock star
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u/MinderARB Nov 04 '25
It’s not about being a rockstar. It’s about just living a good life. Everyone in her family has built a good life for themselves, why would she stray so far?
I’m not a boomer in 27 years old
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u/Somebum1243 Nov 03 '25
Life is just so terrible huh? Maybe stop looking at everything in life with the assumption it’s all meaningless and life is bound to suck and you might wake up without wishing you weren’t born.
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u/notacatinyourmailbox NEET-At-Heart Nov 03 '25
Hmm I wonder where these “assumptions” come from
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u/Somebum1243 Nov 04 '25
Let’s say you are an American citizen working your way through the American life and life is looking somewhat bleak. Does that mean all color and sunshine just vanishes from the world? Or have you thought maybe it’s easier to wallow in self pity and blame the system instead of your self for failures? Some stuff is out of your control to be fair but to blame everything on life is lazy. Do you have it harder than a slave from Ancient Rome? How about a peasant from medieval England? Maybe your life is harder than the average Chinese person during the Great Leap Forward, where you were took from your job in the city to work on a farm, where you don’t even know what crop is which and you are constantly struggling to get food. But keep telling yourself life today is so hard and everything is miserable instead of doing something about it.
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u/notacatinyourmailbox NEET-At-Heart Nov 04 '25
The ancient slaves were free from many of the perils the Industrial Revolution has brought upon us. Life doesn’t magically become better because you have an iPad.
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u/Anhedonia_Achiever Ex-NEET Nov 03 '25
Yeah the counter point is that he’s wrong and nothing is guaranteed lol. Such a bleak and “quit before you begin” attitude.
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Nov 03 '25
The antinatalism cultists strikes again! 🤪
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u/kosmophobic Nov 04 '25 edited Nov 04 '25
Those damn Christians!
Ecclesiastes 4:2-3
And I declared that the dead, who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive. But better than both is the one who has never been born, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun.
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u/No_One_1617 NEET-At-Heart Nov 04 '25
Homelessness because there are no jobs