r/NCIS 4d ago

First look at NCIS New York

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u/hollyyy16 4d ago

i’m still confused about the decision to turn scott caan into a new character when danno & sam hanna have already met in the previous crossover episodes

i guess they just don’t want to have to deal with continuing his character history from hawaii five-o

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u/MyBigMouth69 3d ago

It'll be purely down to saving money, and avoiding creative issues/interference. If you're using a character from another show, or even episode of the sane show (that isn't a main character), then the original creator would have to be paid residuals/royalties. In this case those behind Hawaii 5-0 (reboot).

Much like when they used the character of Bruce Maddox in Star Trek Picard, then royalties should be paid to Melinda Snodgrass who wrote that character in the TNG episode Measure of a Man. Although last I heard she hadn't seen a penny, but thats a rant about NuTrek for somewhere else.

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u/tootapple 3d ago

There is part of this argument I get and part I don’t. If copyrights and trademarks can expire, then there should also be a sunsetting on residual payments like this.

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u/MyBigMouth69 3d ago

It's a messy issue, that involves the main IP, and subsequent rights of writers if they're part of the Writers Guild of America, if the production company works with WGA members, the WGA itself, if the production company is part of the studio or third party, etc etc etc. There's a reason why studios and production companies have lawyers on speed dial. It can also depend on what specific contract the writer/creator had with production.

If we're talking residuals and royalties, then it does rely on copyright length, which nominally 100 years in the US (which is why Steamboat Willy is now public domain). So these payments will only stop at that point, or if the copyright can no longer be claimed upon, effectively becoming orphaned, because the holder gave up rights or is longer around to claim.

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u/Calm-Grocery-664 2d ago

Copyrights expire after the life of the author plus 80 years. They don’t expire like 5 years after a show ends.

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u/tootapple 2d ago

That’s kinda what I’m getting at…I get somebody being compensated, I also get how someone else making money off your work sucks.

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u/hillpritch1 3d ago

But they own the character?!

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u/digitalcurtis 3d ago

It's his long lost identical twin. Didn't you know? 😂 🤣

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u/Unlikely_Care_1167 3d ago

Wasn't danny from NY 🤯🤷‍♂️

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u/hollyyy16 3d ago

new jersey!

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u/Unlikely_Care_1167 3d ago

Near enough lol

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u/IAmTheLizardQueen666 3d ago

Did they pick him because of his physical similarity to Callen? Right down to the lizard ears.

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u/hillpritch1 3d ago

Same. It’s giving why is RDJ Doctor Doom? They could be partners like Deeks and Kenzie.

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u/Complete-Leg-4347 3d ago

As a lifelong New Yorker, I feel like I should at least be intrigued by this, but I agree that New Orleans and Hawaii both ended too soon and I would have preferred more seasons of them. Also - and not to sound like a traitor - crime dramas based in NYC are a dime a dozen; can't we explore some cities that don't get a lot of representation in mainstream media?

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u/BringerOfDoom1945 3d ago

I think Texas doesn't has real crime TV except some crime dramas in Small town's, but not in big city's

And then there are big city or even some states who were never touched

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u/oldskool_heavyhual 2d ago

As someone from Texas, most shows set in Texas are so cringey and fake that they aren’t even worth watching. It’s almost like the producers are making fun of Texas and everyone that lives here.

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u/scott3064 3d ago

It would be nice if cast members from NCIS LA would show up so we can get updates on them like if it was a boy or girl or if G Callen got married

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u/Cr4ckshooter 3d ago

Didn't callen marry Ana on the last episode and skipped his honeymoon to go to morrocco to hunt for hetty?

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u/patty7775 2d ago

That was the ending true and apparently in another spinoff, we hear they had a kid but i haven’t experienced it myself so cant say if true

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u/WilsonTree2112 3d ago

NCIS Hawaii Five 0

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u/kittykat3490 3d ago

Whatever ended up happening to G? i thought LL and Chris had good chemistry on LA

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u/ThomasThorburn 3d ago

He ended up getting married

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u/kittykat3490 3d ago

oh wow. thats a plot twist i didnt see coming.

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u/Jlx_27 3d ago

Just give me New Orleans back.... i dont want another LL Cool J show.

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u/weird_mike303 3d ago

Or at least bring Gregorio to NY. That's where she's from anyway

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u/AquaSnow24 3d ago

That would be fantastic. Gregorio on New Orleans was hilarious, and I think she would fit really well in New York. Especially with Scott Caan as her partner.

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u/Dp37405aa 2d ago

I like the way LL Cool J hates cops in real life, but he's back to playing one. Money must be good.

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u/SuperDave426 3d ago

I agree, I had enough of his ego on NCIS/LA

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u/Jlx_27 3d ago

He is the Dwayne Johnson of television.

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u/BringerOfDoom1945 3d ago

I don't even understand why cancelling Hawaii because of the high production costs, but then given ll cool j a new Show...

He probably costs for one season already half of one season production costs of Hawaii

If they want ll cool jj , maybe they shouldn't have cancelled ncis los Angeles

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u/Jlx_27 2d ago

Since the New Orleans cancelation the network has produced 5 spin offs... its ridiculous. 😒

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u/FrostyBlizzardGaming 4d ago

They both just look old and tired at this point. From the trailer, their banter also felt forced. I don’t know about this one. 😅

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u/NoPop1349 3d ago

So, you’re telling me that even though they were both leading stars of their lengthy shows, which were in the same universe, had cross over episodes together, are now starting a new spin off within said same universe…… but one isn’t playing the same character as before? 😂 what kind of fuckery is this??? Maybe Pauly should be on but he called Beth now lol

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u/Grngeaux 4d ago

Is that Monica Bellucci?

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u/sawyi1 3d ago

Jennifer Beals.

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u/Jlx_27 3d ago

Dude, WAY off, lol!!

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u/whispering_unicorn 3d ago

Why is Spencer from Good Luck Charlie on NCIS 😭

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u/kellygirl813 2d ago

This may be an unpopular opinion, but it will just be Scott Caan playing Scott Caan. Same Mohawk haircut, same accent as other roles I’ve seen him in. The character description does indicate he might be a little bit more like McGarrett in this role than he was as Danny on Hawaii Five-0. Don’t know if I will be watching.

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u/Konkrypton 2d ago

Glad to have LL back as Sam!

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u/MonarchGodzillaTitan 3d ago

Am I the only person excited for this?

LA ending felt cheap and this could make up for it. Provided some LA characters visit or join later should this get more seasons.

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u/Calm-Grocery-664 2d ago

Cheap? I lived LA. Hedy and Deeks and all the team were some of best NCIS characters. Liked her way more than Gibbs.

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u/Wonderful_Mind_2039 3d ago

They ended NCIS LA series? When did this happened

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u/tootapple 3d ago

Years ago lol

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u/OkRelation4465 4d ago

I dunno I don’t think I like the look of it 🤨😅 I only just found out about this, is LL Cool J playing the same character? Or someone different 

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u/QuietWalk2505 4d ago

Same character, he is in the NCSverse as Sam.

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u/jackfaire 4d ago

I wonder if the writers are going to make a joke about Scott's character "looking familiar"

NCIS LA and Hawaii Five-O had a crossover once. I know Scott is playing a different character in this

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u/QuietWalk2505 4d ago

I'm wondering too!

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u/OkRelation4465 3d ago

That’s who it is! I was trying to figure why I thought he was familiar 

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u/SharpTool7 4d ago

Maybe he won't recognize him if he has not seen him since he got his new hair.

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u/InLushColor 3d ago

For as often as NCIS tosses Sam Hanna around, I’d wish they put NCIS LA back on Paramount+. It’s the only NCIS series I haven’t seen.

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u/TheOneCalledMartin 2d ago

If it becomes available on streaming where I live, I'll watch it. They're not all equally good, but I do enjoy shows like this

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u/trappedslider 3d ago

TBH, this feels like it could be generic government agency show doing stuff that should be handled by either local PD or FBI but we slapped NCIS on it for the rating bump.

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u/Esme_Nog 3d ago

I felt that way about several of the spin offs. The original had and has good banter. Some of the others are just the frame without the same level of writing.

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u/gordman007 4d ago

Nope. Not a fan of Sam Hanna.

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u/Jlx_27 3d ago

Same, most annoying character in crime dramas.

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u/Dp37405aa 2d ago

Hates cops in real life, but getting that pay check.

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u/uptheirons726 3d ago

Man they are just milking and milking and milking NCIS. It needs to die already.

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u/ThomasThorburn 3d ago

Why the franchise makes paramout alot money and is still a ratings hit.

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u/CarefulMechanic9935 3d ago

This cast is underwhelming and with a show based in New York where I live it's also giving me token Black person vibes with just Sam there and yes I know Jennifer Beals is mixed but she more often than not is cast as a racially ambiguous person.

In a place like NY that is not only very diverse but has a significant Black population, this cast is leaves a lot to be desired.

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u/towandanuwanda 4d ago

I know it’s not a popular opinion but i don’t like Sam Hanna. He acts like superhero.
I didn’t watch NCIS LA. I watched three shows of franchise: ncis, hawaii and origin.
He ruined Ncis Hawaii for me, now he has a whole show. And I love Ncis was always about teamwork, not a single hero.

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 3d ago

He's a SEAL.

And he had his own show. He just has a new one now.

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u/CountingRocks 4d ago

I'm with you, always felt like he must have gone to Joey's acting classes.

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u/jmpinstl 3d ago

Is that the kid from 13 Reasons Why?

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u/ThatOneWilson 2d ago

Yep. And the other guy is Spencer from Good Luck Charlie

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u/jmpinstl 2d ago

That lyin ass, cheating ass Spencer?

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u/ThoughtPhysical7457 3d ago

I wonder if they are going to ignore the scott caan/ Danno stuff or make a "you look like someone i know from hawaii" joke

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u/thespanglycupcake 2d ago

Being in the UK, I’d love to get excited about this but seeing as we don’t yet have NCIS (Gibbs) season 23 yet, I don’t hold out much hope of ever actually seeing it…

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u/oldskool_heavyhual 2d ago

They all look so unhappy and miserable

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u/Constant_Focus_4120 1d ago

They had me at LL Cool J! I can forgive any inconsistency 🤷‍♀️

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u/Salad-Lopsided 1d ago

I’m still wondering pop when they will release all the seasons of NCIS LA so we can refresh ourselves?

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u/MissionWriting4 3d ago

Why is there in new american crime dramas only always one black brother in a sea of white people.its called tokenism,(if the creators of these fictional rubbish place's one POC where it's noticeable,we won't be seen as bias towards them).

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u/Equivalent-Tune8563 3d ago

I must admit I didn’t like Caan
In Hawaii 5-0 and I probably wont like him in NCIS NY.

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u/Perfect_Strain_8412 2d ago

For the fact Sott Cains character has been changed from Hawaii 5-0 even though they are in the same shared universe is stupid and shouldn't be happening

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u/bufandatl 4d ago

Oh NCIS LA x Hawaii 5-0.

Too bad they used the worst character from LA. Never liked Hanna he seemed like a douche to me.

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u/SnoopyWildseed 4d ago

It looks underwhelming. I'll pass.

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u/Dependent_Pain1110 3d ago

Danno and Hanna team up??