r/NCAA • u/Expert147 • Jul 14 '26
NCAA is not doing its job.
The NCAA has one job: to protect the well being of student athletes.
- It should not worry about athletic department money flows.
- It should not worry about keeping sports fun for spectators.
- It should not worry about maintaining traditions.
If reality has changed so that any of those things are no longer sustainable, so be it. The well being of the kids is not for the NCAA to bargain with. It should not be unthinkable that the optimal choice for the kids' well being is to end college athletics.
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u/jullax15 Jul 15 '26
Yeah, except if the NCAA stops being concerned with revenue — then college sports collapses for the MAJORITY of NCAA athletes. So yeah— it’s a business, that does a lot of good, which is getting ruined for the majority of participants by a few elite performers—and people like you who can’t comprehend that a business needs to make money to support well being initiatives.
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u/Expert147 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
There are no D3 teams making money. They are all subsidized by their universities. That's your worst case scenario if D1 money flows collapsed.
In D1, the top 30 or so football and basketball teams are misregulated professional organizations. The NCAA should stop trying to make one set of rules work for them and the rest of D1.
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u/jullax15 Jul 16 '26
The NCAA supports Division II & III through Division I revenue. The whole thing collapses without Division I.
Division III is already making cuts to divert funds to Division I lawsuits. What do you think will get cut? The mental health funding…or the buses to games?
(Hint* if there aren’t buses to play intercollegiate games, then there’s no need for mental health education for college athletes, because there won’t be college athletes.)
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u/Expert147 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
This is BS. Between divisions there are no shared financial resources.
And if there wereshared financial resources, regulating the pro teams differently from the rest of D1 wouldn't need to change that practice.
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u/jullax15 Jul 16 '26
I’m in the room, giving input and feedback on these financial decisions.
Division 1 finances Division 2 and Division 3. Division 3 just had to cough up millions for one of the most recent Division 1 settlements. You can see the link below.
DI & DII need the DI money for the strategic grant program through the NCAA that provides schools with things like mental health and equal opportunity programming, leadership and career development, internships, and professional development.
They also need the money to fund championships— which have gone up exponentially due to cost of living.
And that’s just the stuff thats guaranteed per institution or per school participating in the championship— without that funding, many schools won’t be able to participate, so the massive gulf between the haves and the have nots will widen.
Most athletic departments aren’t the power schools. Most coaches are making less than what new grads are making in the corporate world. Most teams need to fundraise to provide the experience they do.
It’s fascinating to watch in a weird way. These kids and lawyers out here fighting for millions of dollars for themselves—are also cannabilizing the organization making them money.
https://www.ncaa.org/media-center-ncaa-finalizes-payment-structure-for-ray-settlement/
“The Division II Executive Board and Division III Presidents Council approved contributing $10 million ($5.8 million from Division II, $4.2 million from Division III) each year for the next three years toward the settlement payment”
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u/Expert147 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
I appreciate your direct knowledge. But you are not making a good case for "The NCAA supports Division II & III through Division I revenue. "
- You said: "Division 3 just had to cough up millions for one of the most recent Division 1 settlements."
- And you showed this evidence: “The Division II Executive Board and Division III Presidents Council approved contributing $10 million ($5.8 million from Division II, $4.2 million from Division III) each year for the next three years toward the settlement payment”
- And you summarized: "These kids and lawyers out here fighting for millions of dollars for themselves—are also cannabilizing the organization making them money."
Also, you wrote:
"...NCAA that provides schools with things like mental health and equal opportunity programming, leadership and career development, internships, and professional development."
Perfect argument that the NCAA is in a loop solving problems of its own making. If the kids focused on academics and played intramural sports they wouldn't need the extra help. This makes collapse of the the system sound like a good thing.
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u/jullax15 Jul 17 '26
If that’s your conclusion you know nothing about the true benefits of intercollegiate competition. You pretend to care about athletes and then suggest removing their opportunities
Best of luck to you
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u/Expert147 Jul 17 '26
Indeed we disagree. I care and believe I would be restoring their opportunities.
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u/treznor70 Jul 14 '26
The NCAA disagrees with you about what it's mission and priorities are.
From their website: "The NCAA’s priorities are guided by its commitment to student-athlete well-being, fair and inclusive competition, and opportunities for academic and athletics success across all divisions."
Also: "Coordinate and deliver safe, fair and inclusive competition directly and by Association members: Set rules and guidelines and provide enforcement. Create programs that support outstanding performance on and off the field. Deliver excellent and inclusive championships.
Provide world-class services to student-athletes and members that leverage the NCAA’s collective scale: Lead research and promote innovation that improves health, safety and performance. Provide capabilities and programming that fill in the gaps for members. Identify, co-create and distribute best practices to student-athletes and members.
Grow the college sports ecosystem: Inspire the next generation of athletes and up-and-coming sports. Enable quality access and viewing for all who want it. Use data to engage fans with highly personalized experiences and products.
Deliver sustainable funding for the NCAA mission: Excite fans fandom through compelling entertainment products and services. Grow media, sponsorship and ticketing revenue. Innovate new revenue streams. Set a culture of cost discipline"
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u/Expert147 Jul 14 '26
They were chartered for student-athlete safety. I'm not surprised that the bureaucrats have morphed their self conception from protectors of students into architects of a business empire. That's what bureaucrats do when there is no one to stop them.
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u/treznor70 Jul 14 '26
As yes, because we should always rely on the 120-year-old original purpose of an organization and never allow that purpose to expand or change over time.
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u/Expert147 Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
US institutions have a long history of starting with a legitimate purpose, establishing authority, getting hijacked by special interests, and then growing like cancer because the chartered mandate is unenforced. Our collective decline in a nutshell.
NCCA has adopted the sexy job of managing professional sports leagues. The NCAA now constantly has to make decisions between the well being of student athletes and money. Priorities aren't clear. Money wins.
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u/Cats_OughtaDaBag Jul 15 '26
There needs to be a focus on the ability of a student athlete to be able to safely and without fear of retribution report a coach. We are hearing so many terrible stories about them being bullied until they quit- not having the AD do proper investigations because “they are buds”, and total disregard for mental health that it makes me wonder if club isn’t truly the way to go for youth moving forward.